Vantage AMR

[IanV12VR]

My understanding is that you can only get a none AMR colour if you go down the Q route with the minimum spends mentioned. Otherwise you stay mainstream.

As for Rob's question regarding Diavolo Red I think it is even better than Volcano Red and would suit the Roadster very well.

[Upperworks]

If it's just via Q that's fair enough.

Just finding my first experience of buying a new Aston more stressful than it should be!

[mikey k]

jonby said:

Again, remember no q on halo

Also, if you buy amr wheels, you'll have the old ones to sell to offset the price partially. For that matter with ti, you'll have the old / standard box to sell

Mike - fairly sure martin has long since sold that spot :-)

That was another issue for me as well, wasn't feeling the lime green, but would have been happy with yellow like the Alloro Green N430 scheme
I hope Martin has sold it, the guy behind me dropped out before me.

[AMDBSVNick]

mikey k said:

I hope Martin has sold it, the guy behind me dropped out before me.

Mine at Brum is still up for grabs. Dean Spragg is the man to call.

[jonby]

On paper I was sceptical of all the different colours working together in the halo scheme as others have also said, but they look great in the flesh

[Jon39]

With the GT8, I thought there seemed to be a high proportion of UK cars offered for sale immediately after delivery. Would it have been more than a quarter of all the UK GT8s?
I think the practice is known as flipping for profit.

If I have understood correctly, I have now read of two AMR orders being offered, even before delivery. Would that be Pre-flipping, flipping?

Might this be an indication of overheating, and that the limited edition bubble could be about to end?

[Upperworks]

Jon39 said:

With the GT8, I thought there seemed to be a high proportion of UK cars offered for sale immediately after delivery. Would it have been more than a quarter of all the UK GT8s?
I think the practice is known as flipping for profit.

If I have understood correctly, I have now read of two AMR orders being offered, even before delivery. Would that be Pre-flipping, flipping?

Might this be an indication of overheating, and that the limited edition bubble could be about to end?

I see these as just a run out model for people that already have a version, and want the latest and greatest version to hold onto. Never thought of it as a "special" in the same way as a GT12/8, Zagato etc.

[Upperworks]

I do agree that the bubble is deflating at least, but I just don't see this car as a measure.

[V8 Vantage GT]

Jon39 said:

With the GT8, I thought there seemed to be a high proportion of UK cars offered for sale immediately after delivery. Would it have been more than a quarter of all the UK GT8s?
I think the practice is known as flipping for profit.

If I have understood correctly, I have now read of two AMR orders being offered, even before delivery. Would that be Pre-flipping, flipping?

Might this be an indication of overheating, and that the limited edition bubble could be about to end?

This is not illegal, at least over here. But why would someone pay over MSRP for a car that is not a limited edition? The AMR looks to be the same spec. as the "limited edition" 2016 Vantage GTS over here. Which are languishing on dealer lots over here even with $20,000 discounts.

[RobDown]

I think selling your place in the queue (well not really a queue for a limited production model) has been a common practice for Ferraris for years now. Guess for Porsche to

I had heard rumours of people selling GT8 spots pre-delivery but not sure how many changed hands. As I've said on another thread I think there are a number of reasons why so many GT8s have come up; partly its flipping, partly I think owners coming from other brands (without manual transmissions) have struggled with the reality of needing to change gears (I regard that challenge as half the fun).

It's a shame but I guess there will be flipping of the v12vs manuals too (hey even one of the dealers tried it!). Would rather see genuine fans of the marque get the cars today

[silverspeed]

RobDown said:

Would rather see genuine fans of the marque get the cars today

[IanV12VR]

Jon39 said:

With the GT8, I thought there seemed to be a high proportion of UK cars offered for sale immediately after delivery. Would it have been more than a quarter of all the UK GT8s?
I think the practice is known as flipping for profit.

If I have understood correctly, I have now read of two AMR orders being offered, even before delivery. Would that be Pre-flipping, flipping?

Might this be an indication of overheating, and that the limited edition bubble could be about to end?

I didn't read into their posts that they were looking to sell their positions in the queue, not sure they had anything to sell anyway. They had merely positioned themselves as first choice with a dealer but had now decided that the AMR car wasn't for them. All they were saying was that they believed if someone was looking for a car they should approach certain dealers as there maybe availability. If they were looking to sell their positions they would surely have asked people to pm them.

As for will the V12 AMR car be flipped no doubt the odd one will but from what I have seen most that are interested in buying want the last n/a V12 manual Vantage for themselves and I think most that will get one will want to keep.

[AdamV8V]

IanV12VR said:

I didn't read into their posts that they were looking to sell their positions in the queue, not sure they had anything to sell anyway. They had merely positioned themselves as first choice with a dealer but had now decided that the AMR car wasn't for them. All they were saying was that they believed if someone was looking for a car they should approach certain dealers as there maybe availability.

Exactly this. Both Nick and Mike had build slots allocated to them but for various reasons decided it wasn't for them.

Not least that one of them already has a manual DBS Volante and the other has a 650S Spider

[AMDBSVNick]

AdamV8V said:

IanV12VR said:

I didn't read into their posts that they were looking to sell their positions in the queue, not sure they had anything to sell anyway. They had merely positioned themselves as first choice with a dealer but had now decided that the AMR car wasn't for them. All they were saying was that they believed if someone was looking for a car they should approach certain dealers as there maybe availability.

Exactly this. Both Nick and Mike had build slots allocated to them but for various reasons decided it wasn't for them.

Not least that one of them already has a manual DBS Volante and the other has a 650S Spider

^^^^^this^^^^^

Just trying to help out if someone is trying to get hold of one.

[RobDown]

Ok, now at home so have had a chance to check my info. Standard features on AMR v12, to be aware of (in case anyone gets a chance of a spot):

1. The performance pack. Note this includes the titanium exhaust (i.e. Not an extra cost)

2. Lightweight mesh grill (as per GT8)

3. CF grill surround (from memory that was a £3k option on GT8)

4. Brembo logo'd brakes

5. Cf side strakes and bonnet louvred (I know, I know they used to be standard in the old days)

6. Black window surrounds, light Bezels etc

7. CF diffuser/splitter

8. CF dash

9. black wing badge (woo-hoo!)

[Chamboy]

Hi Rob,

Ha...looks like there's a few of us are spending our time delving deeper into the (somewhat) confusing communications...

I actually spoke with my dealer yesterday re the PP as part of stock (man maths thinking this could help convince me pushing for one) but his understanding is that the stock car comes with a stainless steel system per Vanquish S - he pointed me at the Ti accessories system details which quote a 10kg saving for an AMR car - the 4kg difference vs a standard V12S comes from the decat from factory to help achieve the 595hp (or 593 - who knows) value.

Think this makes the AMR £4.8k better value vs standard - still worth having tho!

And FWIW my desires for one - well they were buried after spending an hour showing my Better Half the colour schemes and esp. Interiors - they bombed - she much prefers the interior Pure Black/Pure Black in our Stratus White Manual. Better start saving up for the PP for this one instead 😉

Hope your investigations and planning bear fruit!

And on another AMR note, have any of us even discussed the V8 - are they really going to shift 200 of those??

[telum01]

RobDown said:

2. Lightweight mesh grill (as per GT8)

3. CF grill surround (from memory that was a £3k option on GT8)

Which is standard? The "lightweight" aspect of the mesh-only grille is completely negated by adding the CF surround. And, adding the CF grille onto the lightweight mesh, you've got a standard V12VS grille. Just curious for clarification's sake, since both 2. and 3. being standard is either conflicting info or a contrived way of saying "standard V12VS grille"...

[RobDown]

Chamboy said:

Hi Rob,

Ha...looks like there's a few of us are spending our time delving deeper into the (somewhat) confusing communications...

I actually spoke with my dealer yesterday re the PP as part of stock (man maths thinking this could help convince me pushing for one) but his understanding is that the stock car comes with a stainless steel system per Vanquish S - he pointed me at the Ti accessories system details which quote a 10kg saving for an AMR car - the 4kg difference vs a standard V12S comes from the decat from factory to help achieve the 595hp (or 593 - who knows) value.

Think this makes the AMR £4.8k better value vs standard - still worth having tho!

And FWIW my desires for one - well they were buried after spending an hour showing my Better Half the colour schemes and esp. Interiors - they bombed - she much prefers the interior Pure Black/Pure Black in our Stratus White Manual. Better start saving up for the PP for this one instead ??

Hope your investigations and planning bear fruit!

And on another AMR note, have any of us even discussed the V8 - are they really going to shift 200 of those??

[Chamboy]

Rob

Fair do's...but confusing would'nt you say??

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[AdamV12V]

telum01 said:

RobDown said:

2. Lightweight mesh grill (as per GT8)

3. CF grill surround (from memory that was a £3k option on GT8)

Which is standard? The "lightweight" aspect of the mesh-only grille is completely negated by adding the CF surround. And, adding the CF grille onto the lightweight mesh, you've got a standard V12VS grille. Just curious for clarification's sake, since both 2. and 3. being standard is either conflicting info or a contrived way of saying "standard V12VS grille"...

Yup that's my understanding - V12VS grille is std, but there is no cost option to downgrade to the lightweight mesh grille. It may look sportier (matter of personal opinion) but seems like a tough call to downgrade from a very expensive part to a cheap one? Surely better to take the V12VS grille, buy the lightweight grille for £400, swap them over at delivery and then sell your brand new V12VS grille for at least £1500.