New Vantage?

[codieskid]

Jon39 said:

Bear in mind as well, with a few options it costs £140,000.

Agreed, I think the price point is too high for me. For that money I'd be looking at an 8 speed Vanquish I think

[V8 Vantage GT]

Jon39 said:

Looking better Trev., but I am sorry to say, the design is unfortunately a long way away from me wanting one.

Bear in mind as well, with a few options it costs £140,000. I have got to really like something to justify that for a 'toy', and (based on the previous model) it will probably depreciate by about £60,000 in 30 months. On here we may not be representative, but if it does turn out to be a 'marmite' design, that will affect used demand.

You probably looking closer to £150,000 with options converting back from dollars to pounds.

[AdamV12V]

codieskid said:

Jon39 said:

Bear in mind as well, with a few options it costs £140,000.

Agreed, I think the price point is too high for me. For that money I'd be looking at an 8 speed Vanquish I think

Huh, the Vanquish S Ultimate starts at £211,995, so realistically £230k half decent spec, or are you comparing old cars to new ones?

[David W.]

superlightr said:

codieskid said:

Hmm let me think, aftermarket. Not that difficult to design and build replacement bumpers for cars, sure there are a few people on here running V12S bumpers etc on there 4.3's.

Thank you for the grills - That's looking better each time !

well done.

ps why is it winking at me?

Like that a lot, can the lights be a little less slitty?
DW

[hornbaek]

Now I like the new Vantage BUT it is only 8 cylinder and doesn't come with a manual. So I will wait until they put the V12 in it eventually.

[shinjuku]

I think there a impact reasons as to why the DB10 design couldn't be more closely followed.

I do like the new Vantage very much, but it's another league in price.

[codieskid]

AdamV12V said:

Huh, the Vanquish S Ultimate starts at £211,995, so realistically £230k half decent spec, or are you comparing old cars to new ones?

Sorry, yeah used Vanquish over new Vantage. I know it's not the same type of car etc but used Vanquishes looks like good value next to the Vantage now the price point is increasing

[V8LM]

codieskid said:

raceboy said:

I'd imagine it working like the DB11

yup, the bonnet can go up with the light openings integrated into it. This again adds complexity to the panel and cost which is why I think Aston didn't bother

Edited by codieskid on Tuesday 5th December 11:08

Isn't there an EU regulation that says the lights have to stay in the same place?

[DB9VolanteDriver]

Man, keep the bonnet CLOSED ! That is one ugly mess under there. So glad the outgoing crop doesn't look like that.

[telum01]

hornbaek said:

Now I like the new Vantage BUT it is only 8 cylinder and doesn't come with a manual. So I will wait until they put the V12 in it eventually.

It will come with a manual, just wasn't launched with one.
I'd be extremely surprised if they put a V12 in it. It'd be a huge increase in weight, plus disruption of weight balance, with no practical utility. The AMG-sourced engine puts out a large amount of power, with plenty of potential for more, and negates the need for a V12.

[spyker138]

telum01 said:

It will come with a manual, just wasn't launched with one.
I'd be extremely surprised if they put a V12 in it. It'd be a huge increase in weight, plus disruption of weight balance, with no practical utility. The AMG-sourced engine puts out a large amount of power, with plenty of potential for more, and negates the need for a V12.

I don’t think ‘need’ has ever been a reason to build a v12, except maybe going back 50 years.

[Grant3]

Beefmeister said:

i'm sure they could replace the thick black/carbon border with something less obvious and some slats.

I think it wouldn't work though, not with the design of the rear being so aggressive and not changeable.

That’s the whole point everyone has their own opinion, you don’t think it would work, so many others think a classic style grille will look great and actually enhance the new design.

Each to their own, no one is right or wrong, my point is design and beauty are important on an Aston and having a more classic style option in addition to the existing design can only add to the appeal for a section of buyers and help maximise sales... win-win...

[V8LM]

telum01 said:

hornbaek said:

Now I like the new Vantage BUT it is only 8 cylinder and doesn't come with a manual. So I will wait until they put the V12 in it eventually.

It will come with a manual, just wasn't launched with one.
I'd be extremely surprised if they put a V12 in it. It'd be a huge increase in weight, plus disruption of weight balance, with no practical utility. The AMG-sourced engine puts out a large amount of power, with plenty of potential for more, and negates the need for a V12.

From the A pillar forward it's the same as the '11, and that was launched with a V12. Why wouldn't they?

[AdamV8V]

V8LM said:

From the A pillar forward it's the same as the '11, and that was launched with a V12. Why wouldn't they?

Is it?!

It certainly looks completely different from the A-pillar forward both in terms of dimensions, design, cooling and aero. I may well be mistaken.

Having seen under the bonnet of the new car, I'm struggling to see how they would package a V12 in there, esp one with two turbos strapped to it and the associated pipework etc. One of the reason AML chose the 'Hot-V' AMG motor is because of how compact it is, allowing the relatively short and low bonnet line on the new Vantage.

[AdamV8V]

AdamV8V said:

Having seen under the bonnet of the new car, I'm struggling to see how they would package a V12 in there

And, yes, I'm aware everybody said that about the previous Vantage, and they did it anyway

[roughrider]

V8LM said:

From the A pillar forward it's the same as the '11, and that was launched with a V12. Why wouldn't they?

No, its completely different.

[FrankieMac]

roughrider said:

V8LM said:

From the A pillar forward it's the same as the '11, and that was launched with a V12. Why wouldn't they?

No, its completely different.

In the words of Marek Reichman I’ll just leave this here:
“The bonded and riveted aluminium structure is, of course, descended from the DB11 – everything from the A-pillar forward is carried over untouched (new crash structures are prohibitively expensive to develop)”

[roughrider]

FrankieMac said:

In the words of Marek Reichman I’ll just leave this here:
“The bonded and riveted aluminium structure is, of course, descended from the DB11 – everything from the A-pillar forward is carried over untouched (new crash structures are prohibitively expensive to develop)”

Good point, though only 30% of the tub is carry over from DB11, so Vantage has rear hinged clamshell bonnet, different inner arches, cross member just in front of V8. Guess the actual chassis legs with crash structure may be same.
But, i heard they once shoehorned a V8V motor into a Cygnet, so what do i know.....

Edited by roughrider on Wednesday 6th December 03:59

[madcal]

So, I go to choose spec next week but here is what I propose (comes in at around £155k....)

Any views?

Base Car
Ultramarine Black
Exterior Body Pack Gloss Black
Body Coloured Diffuser
Exhaust Matt Black
Exterior Black Pack
Side Gill Matt Black
Roof in CF
Y Spoke Diamond Turned
Yellow Calipers
Sports Plus Pack
Leather Monotone Contemporary black
Contrast Stitch in yellow
Alcantara Headlining
Sports Wheel Black Leather
Comfort Pack
Tech Pack
Floor Mats
AM Wings on seats
Trim Inlay CF
Jewellery CF
CF Tread Plates
Premium Audio
Camera
Umbrella
First Aid
Tracker
Garage Door Opener
Luggage
Battery Conditioner
Valve Caps
Car Cover

[roughrider]

Sounds fab. Maybe rear diffuser should be matched to body pack, as it would be indistinguishable anyway?