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codieskid said:
The Vantage has always been the prettiest Aston to my eyes, perfect proportions and even after all these years it still looks as beautiful as it did the first time I saw the concept way back in 2003.
This has always been the problem facing designers of a replacement Vantage. Improve on perfect looks, and somehow make every buyer say "Wow", immediately they see the car. When the original car was designed by Mr Callum, at least there was no direct predecessor to consider.
In the 'guesswork' picture below, my eye is drawn to the muddle along the sill and bottom of the door. It is as if the chassis has an RSJ, and we can see the edges of it protruding along the side of the car.
One aspect of the present Vantage, particularly prior to 12.25 MY, there is no part of the body design that is present, without a genuine reason and functional purpose.
Just regarding the bottom sill line and the mass of lines in general in that area; the test mules are quite close in terms of wheelbase and overhangs, but only the very lowest parts of bodywork are close to being new Vantage bits. There's been some 'adaptation' to allow DB11 panels to fit. The result is some confusing architecture in places (as noted above, it's not very clean for that reason).
If you were to sit a test mule beside a DB11 the proportions and bodywork parts harvesting would appear more obvious. Aside from that, the render ties up neatly with the descriptions from those who've seen it
If you were to sit a test mule beside a DB11 the proportions and bodywork parts harvesting would appear more obvious. Aside from that, the render ties up neatly with the descriptions from those who've seen it
fuelracer496 said:
Just regarding the bottom sill line and the mass of lines in general in that area; the test mules are quite close in terms of wheelbase and overhangs, but only the very lowest parts of bodywork are close to being new Vantage bits. There's been some 'adaptation' to allow DB11 panels to fit. The result is some confusing architecture in places (as noted above, it's not very clean for that reason).
If you were to sit a test mule beside a DB11 the proportions and bodywork parts harvesting would appear more obvious. Aside from that, the render ties up neatly with the descriptions from those who've seen it
Yep - they also put shaped blocks of foam under the camo wrap to create artificial lines and bumps to disguise the shape further. I actually know what this car really looks like as I was lucky enough to see it when I worked at Gaydon. I can't and won't say anything more than I like it and want one! If you were to sit a test mule beside a DB11 the proportions and bodywork parts harvesting would appear more obvious. Aside from that, the render ties up neatly with the descriptions from those who've seen it
Shrimpvende said:
Yep - they also put shaped blocks of foam under the camo wrap to create artificial lines and bumps to disguise the shape further. I actually know what this car really looks like as I was lucky enough to see it when I worked at Gaydon. I can't and won't say anything more than I like it and want one!
We trust your judgement Scott, can't wait to see it!!!Just listening to Dave Richards on Eurosport (an interview at Le Mans) and he was talking about the new Vantage being used at he race next year
He made the comment that the race car would be launched at the same time as the road car. And that the race car would be track testing late Summer
Seems to support the idea of a launch much sooner than Geneva
He made the comment that the race car would be launched at the same time as the road car. And that the race car would be track testing late Summer
Seems to support the idea of a launch much sooner than Geneva
RobDown said:
Just listening to Dave Richards on Eurosport (an interview at Le Mans) and he was talking about the new Vantage being used at he race next year
He made the comment that the race car would be launched at the same time as the road car. And that the race car would be track testing late Summer
Seems to support the idea of a launch much sooner than Geneva
Listening to that interview myself - Amazing to think the original 4 or 5 Race cars launched 9 / 10 years ago are still being used today. Supreme engineering.He made the comment that the race car would be launched at the same time as the road car. And that the race car would be track testing late Summer
Seems to support the idea of a launch much sooner than Geneva
HBradley said:
66MK said:
Speedraser said:
I can't.
Neither can I.
Each to their own indeed.
Vantagemech said:
I went to the AMR presentation last year and saw the full size mock up. All I can say is the rendering above is wrong
I thought it must be wrong.
Reason - looking at the picture below (rear quarter view) apart from some details, it could be mistaken for the the present Vantage.
I know that happens with the 911, but people would laugh if the new Vantage was too similar to the 14 year old model.
HBradley said:
66MK said:
Speedraser said:
I can't.
Neither can I.Speedraser said:
Won't matter. Someone else's engine in an "Aston" totally ruins it for me -- absolute deal-breaker.
Each to there own but I don't understand this. To play a scenario - if you were given a V12 Vantage but weren't able to open the bonnet (hood in America!), would you still enjoy the car if it had a faster response than my snappy Mexican ex wife and sounded like Meghan Markle mid orgasm - despite not knowing what's under the hood? The McLaren F1 used BMW engines, The Ariel Atom uses a Honda engine, The Paganai Huaryaryraura uses a Mercedes engine etc etc. The engine is only a small part of the power train - everything from gearbox tuning to exhaust configs and ECU maps all having a huge impact to the results.
That said, the bits you can touch and feel should rightfully have to be Aston owned or impacted. This is a huge issue with the DB11 and something I fear will hit the new Vantage - Merc front end.
Chris.
Speedraser said:
Won't matter. Someone else's engine in an "Aston" totally ruins it for me -- absolute deal-breaker.
Agreed it would have been lovely, but since it was never going to happen whilst still turning a profit, no use dwelling on it. If it sounds thunderous and goes like the clappers, I'm a happy man. And there's no reason to suspect it won't.
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