New Vantage?

[Big Ry]

When it comes to residuals of the current Vantage I'm not too bothered. Of course nobody wants to see something they've paid a heap of cash for go down in value, but for me life is too short. If I was that worried about residuals I'd steer clear of all premium emotive purchases full stop, buy something like a 3 year old Merc and just accept it'll be worth at best half of what I paid in three more years.

If my V12 is worth £50k in 5 years then so be it, all that means is that the V12VR I want will only be £70k, so it still works, it's not like my car will decrease and everything else increase.

Anyway....back to the point........still don't like it enough to shell out £150k......but i'm glad others do as that will ultimately create a used market........and I might like one enough one day to spend £75k

Edited by Big Ry on Thursday 12th April 14:22

[RobDown]

I think Black and Yellow might be a touch nicer than Black/Lime

Personally I'll wait until they make one that will look good in a Gulf Livery

[AMDBSVNick]

NeinFondue said:

I’ll be adding lottery tickets, and possibly organs too

Absolutely stunning

[nickv8]

NeinFondue said:

I finally had the opportunity to watch the online reviews of the new vantage, and seeing the black car with lime highlights, I’m in love! Clearly the car is colour dependant, and I definitely preferred the blue car making the rounds to the red car we saw at the previews, but seeing that black car, you can add me to that minority of old vantage owners with a thing for new vantage. If I was ever lucky enough, I’d have both sat in my garage

Great job Aston Martin!

^This!

[David W.]

CSK1 said:

David W. said:

happy with the heritage of the new engine, think it sound better than just about any vantage V8 or 12 I’ve heard to date.

You must be the only one thinking the New Vantage sounds better than the old one, be it V8 or V12?!

Watched (sadly perhaps) both videos of the cars leaving the SimplyAston event and other than a white V8 that must have had some retro fit bits fitted only the Vanquishes sounded good to me. The V8s seem to lack that nice V8 US muscle car note and the 12s dont make the hairs stand up on my neck like say a Ferrari does.
Would have been nice to have heard a N/A 911 leaving on full sound as a comparison.

DW (owner of V8 with free flow cats and fuse 22 switch fitted)

[HBradley]

David W. said:

CSK1 said:

David W. said:

happy with the heritage of the new engine, think it sound better than just about any vantage V8 or 12 I’ve heard to date.

You must be the only one thinking the New Vantage sounds better than the old one, be it V8 or V12?!

Watched (sadly perhaps) both videos of the cars leaving the SimplyAston event and other than a white V8 that must have had some retro fit bits fitted only the Vanquishes sounded good to me. The V8s seem to lack that nice V8 US muscle car note and the 12s dont make the hairs stand up on my neck like say a Ferrari does.
Would have been nice to have heard a N/A 911 leaving on full sound as a comparison.

DW (owner of V8 with free flow cats and fuse 22 switch fitted)

EVERYTHING was standing up listening to the GT8s

[CSK1]

I must say it does look way better in black! Perhaps because everything looks so much more integrated in black especially that big gaping fish mouth is no longer that obvious! I'm not too fond of the soundtrack, it is loud for sure, it farts quite a lot.

[matrignano]

I'm having a play with the configurator, and am confused by the exterior body pack/graphics pack combos?

It seems you can only have the graphics pack (£4k!) if you select the carbon fibre exterior body pack (£7k!!!),.
Graphics pack doesn't seem available with graphite or gloss black packs.

BUT, with the graphite or gloss black exterior packs, you can still have the rear diffuser painted in a contrasting colour (cost unknown). So you could always have the front diffuser painted separately by a body shop, probably for just a few hundred quid.

How does that make sense financially??

[hornbaek]

Not a fan of the (heavily engineered) soundtrack of the AMG sourced engine. A lot of noise but no substance. V12V in another league. Deeper and more sophisticated.

[macdeb]

David W. said:

CSK1 said:

David W. said:

happy with the heritage of the new engine, think it sound better than just about any vantage V8 or 12 I’ve heard to date.

You must be the only one thinking the New Vantage sounds better than the old one, be it V8 or V12?!

Watched (sadly perhaps) both videos of the cars leaving the SimplyAston event and other than a white V8 that must have had some retro fit bits fitted only the Vanquishes sounded good to me. The V8s seem to lack that nice V8 US muscle car note and the 12s dont make the hairs stand up on my neck like say a Ferrari does.
Would have been nice to have heard a N/A 911 leaving on full sound as a comparison.

DW (owner of V8 with free flow cats and fuse 22 switch fitted)

On subject of sound I think the AMV8 sits nicely between muscle car and say Ferrari. A 911 sounds like it's only firing on six
PS; I'd like to hear at close quarters a free flow catted Vantage.

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 12th April 16:43

[Jon39]

David W. said:

Watched (sadly perhaps) both videos of the cars leaving the SimplyAston event and other than a white V8 that must have had some retro fit bits fitted only the Vanquishes sounded good to me.

With the combination of a wet road and donkeys, perhaps unwise to rev sufficiently to achieve the best sound.

Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 12th April 16:48

[macdeb]

Cold engines too

[David W.]

HBradley said:

EVERYTHING was standing up listening to the GT8s

[David W.]

macdeb said:

On subject of sound I think the AMV8 sits nicely between muscle car and say Ferrari. A 911 sounds like it's only firing on six

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 12th April 16:43

DW

[AstonV]

RobDown said:

This has got me wondering. If the new Vantage were indeed to drop quickly to say £100k, that would then naturally depress prices of older Vantages (much as we love them are there any examples of older models of a car trading at a premium to the newer model).

But when you work your way to the bottom of the food chain I struggle to see older V8s going much below current levels (call it £30k) so long as they’re well maintained.

So my question is - will we see this compression in older Vantage values? Or will the value of older Vantages (V8 no lower than 30, V8s a premium to that, v12v higher still etc), support the value of newer Vantages?

I guess nobody knows at this point. Will be interesting to see how it works out though in the coming months

I don't know how used car values are determined. Looking at 2015 V8 Vantages, values are around 30%+/- below MSRP, the V12S's are closer to 50%+/- off MSRP''s. The V8's seem to lose less in value than the V12's. Highly optioned cars don't seem to residual that much more than base cars. A V8 costing close to $150,000 new is not worth much more than one that sold for $115,000 of the same year. It appears the higher the MSRP, the steeper they depreciate. Vanquishes drastically lose value over the first couple of years.

I doubt the new Vantage will have much if any affect on the value of the out going Vantage. Older Vantages are basically just used cars, not collector cars, the prices do seem to level off after a steep loss curve initially during the first couple of years. Prices seem to be more mileage dependent, high mileage cars worth much less that low mileage cars. Average Aston owners don't put many miles on their cars, so most I see for sale are very low mileage.

I don't see the new Vantage holding it's value any different than the current ones, it may even depreciate faster since there will be many more produced initially. There will be many used on the market in the next few years as Aston starts cranking out updates to the model.

[Ken Figenus]

I'm really intrigued by all this speculation so let me speculate some more! This is mostly based on my intrigue at absurd MSRP prices for many a car - and there are lot of reasons for that - least alone the PCP smoke and mirrors.

If a 2015 V8 Vantage is now valued around 30%+/- below MSRP according to Aston V (above) then that is a stonkingly good position for anyone to be in - losing about £20k on enjoying a seminal design Aston over 12 years is blissful motoring! It equates to the fact that keepers create winners! I guess many of us knew that which is why I MUST hang on to my lovely car as better/faster/slicker/more high-tech stuff comes out to tempt me!

Meantime its fab to note that dynamically the new Vantage is a sure fire winner and all this over its prime territory 911 competition that has an even uglier 'head on' boat race! I hope it does exceedingly well for those whose loins it girds . Aesthetic quibbling over the nose certainly did not hamper Porsche, and many of us were sniffy over the DB11 looks when launched but I'd now be perfectly happy to have one (please don't mention the bolted on iPad dash). Go Aston - its fab to see the reviews and profits

[Emilio Largo]

Ex Boy Racer said:

The new Vantage is a me-too product now imho.

Absolutely spot on.

[DashboardD]

p1stonhead said:

NeinFondue said:

steveway said:

I totally agree, Storm Black V12V plus new black Vantage will have to see what the bonus is this year

I’ll be adding lottery tickets, and possibly organs too

That is just ludicrously good looking.

I think you should all just save your money and buy one of these... Uncanny! ‘Spider’ already available too...

Edited by DashboardD on Friday 13th April 00:04

[RobDown]

Now that really IS ugly

Edited by RobDown on Friday 13th April 13:37

[Beefmeister]

DashboardD said:

I think you should all just save your money and buy one of these... Uncanny! ‘Spider’ already available too...

Edited by DashboardD on Friday 13th April 00:04

I’m genuinely baffled when people post the MX-5 like this. They have headlights and an open grille, that’s the only difference. The headlights are a totally different shape, positioned in a different place relative to the bonnet and grille. And the grille itself is a completely different shape. Just lazy commenting.