New Vantage?

[phatwa]

Hi all, new here. I'm in the market for a Vantage -- I accept it's not everyone's cup of tea, but that said, it certainly is mine. Particularly in China Grey or Onyx.

I've been eyeing up the discounts as I always try to get a decent bargin, if that's possible with an Aston anyway. Looking at their site they're offering a £4k dealer contribution a.k.a discount - a bit stingy. On the DB11 they're offering £20k... Looking over this thread it looks like some people have managed to get a new one for a little over £100k, so a £20k a discount.

I'm trying to work the numbers in my head, obviously a £20k discount would affect the GMFV. Anyone got a finance example please (PCP) with a £20k discount?

(obviously all this is before any options)

[RobDown]

Those sorts of discounts are readily available on dealer stock (ie cars they’ve specced not bespoke customer orders). Just keep pushing

I don’t think it should directly impact the Future value for PCP (except to the extent it depresses all Vantage values). I would imagine that’s based on Glass’s guide or equivalent (someone please correct me if I’m wrong on that).

If you google PCP calculator there’s a whole load of them online where you can play around with your hearts content in terms of deposits terms etc. I would use the guaranteed value from a dealer advert (and a similar interest rate).

Happy hunting!

[shinjuku]

I would love one. Just can’t afford one.

[Snozzer]

shinjuku said:

I would love one. Just can’t afford one.

You're probably in your early 20's, which is the target demographic for the new Vantage.

[Graze01]

Snozzer said:

shinjuku said:

I would love one. Just can’t afford one.

You're probably in your early 20's, which is the target demographic for the new Vantage.

I'm definitely not in my 20"s and I reckon I'll buy one in a few years when they come down a bit - I think it would be a buzz as an every day car

Graze (somewhere in my 60's apparently)

[shinjuku]

Snozzer said:

You're probably in your early 20's, which is the target demographic for the new Vantage.

Alas, I am in my 30s.

[EVR]

I am 37 and I would surely not kick one out of bed.

But I agree the previous gen is more gracious and classy.

[Snozzer]

I've had a few 911's, R8's and other stuff (inc Vantages). Aston really have missed the boat on the new Vantage. Who cares how quick it is, or how it handles, a souped up Fiesta is more than good enough in that regard. I wanted a car that was exclusive, classy, make you feel good. Something different to anything else. I'm not sure what they were thinking to be honest. It's got the looks only a mother could love (inside and out). Bentley seem to know what they're doing, As soon as I can get one as a company car, my money will be there. Astons should be beautiful first, everything else is a bonus!

[RobDown]

Snozzer said:

I've had a few 911's, R8's and other stuff (inc Vantages). Aston really have missed the boat on the new Vantage. Who cares how quick it is, or how it handles, a souped up Fiesta is more than good enough in that regard. I wanted a car that was exclusive, classy, make you feel good. Something different to anything else. I'm not sure what they were thinking to be honest. It's got the looks only a mother could love (inside and out). Bentley seem to know what they're doing, As soon as I can get one as a company car, my money will be there. Astons should be beautiful first, everything else is a bonus!

Have you watched The Car Guys review of the Bentley? You might want to first before committing. Nice to see an honest review for once

I think Andy Palmers comment was “things that look like they should be metal are metal”. Maybe Bentley can learn from that rather than using cheap silvered plastic all over the place....

Edited by RobDown on Friday 27th September 20:42

[good grief]

Snozzer said:

I've had a few 911's, R8's and other stuff (inc Vantages). Aston really have missed the boat on the new Vantage. Who cares how quick it is, or how it handles, a souped up Fiesta is more than good enough in that regard. I wanted a car that was exclusive, classy, make you feel good. Something different to anything else. I'm not sure what they were thinking to be honest. It's got the looks only a mother could love (inside and out). Bentley seem to know what they're doing, As soon as I can get one as a company car, my money will be there. Astons should be beautiful first, everything else is a bonus!

Rather odd comment, most people do care how a sports car performs and handles, I have just taken delivery of a new Vantage which has exceeded all my expectations, I still have my previous generation roadster which I intend to keep for those rare sunny days. However i have had nothing but positive comments as to the looks, and how Aston have managed to move on the 12 year old design.
As to the comparison with Bentley l imagine most people looking at a new Vantage are wanting a two seater sports car not a large GT.

[Snozzer]

good grief said:

Snozzer said:

I've had a few 911's, R8's and other stuff (inc Vantages). Aston really have missed the boat on the new Vantage. Who cares how quick it is, or how it handles, a souped up Fiesta is more than good enough in that regard. I wanted a car that was exclusive, classy, make you feel good. Something different to anything else. I'm not sure what they were thinking to be honest. It's got the looks only a mother could love (inside and out). Bentley seem to know what they're doing, As soon as I can get one as a company car, my money will be there. Astons should be beautiful first, everything else is a bonus!

Rather odd comment, most people do care how a sports car performs and handles, I have just taken delivery of a new Vantage which has exceeded all my expectations

I do care about handling. My point is it can't be exploited legally. My R8 V10 caught me out a couple of times as it drives as easy as a Fiesta, then look down and you're doing 90. You'd probably have more fun at legal speeds in an MX5 than most modern exotica. The 991 is step forward handling wise to a 997, but I'd take a 997 any day as it has more character. My point was the first thing an Aston should be is beautiful. The modern designs aren't and will date quickly.

[RobDown]

I popped into HWM earlier. They had just done the handover of three new Vantages to three lifelong friends who had always dreamed of having Aston Martins and so had ordered them together.

It’s only vaguely relevant to this thread but I thought it was a lovely story and partly what Aston Martins are all about.

Did anyone dream of owning a Bentley Continental as a schoolboy (girl)?

[good grief]

Snozzer said:

I do care about handling. My point is it can't be exploited legally. My R8 V10 caught me out a couple of times as it drives as easy as a Fiesta, then look down and you're doing 90. You'd probably have more fun at legal speeds in an MX5 than most modern exotica. The 991 is step forward handling wise to a 997, but I'd take a 997 any day as it has more character. My point was the first thing an Aston should be is beautiful. The modern designs aren't and will date quickly.

Fortunately in life we all like different things otherwise life would be extremely boring.

[avinalarf]

RobDown said:

I popped into HWM earlier. They had just done the handover of three new Vantages to three lifelong friends who had always dreamed of having Aston Martins and so had ordered them together.

It’s only vaguely relevant to this thread but I thought it was a lovely story and partly what Aston Martins are all about.

Did anyone dream of owning a Bentley Continental as a schoolboy (girl)?

As a teenager I lusted after one of these, what drama !

[8Speed]

good grief said:

Fortunately in life we all like different things otherwise life would be extremely boring.

That looks wonderful in blue to my eyes - good on you.
(I'm well over 45 by the way)

[ExitLeft]

avinalarf said:

As a teenager I lusted after one of these, what drama !

Me too.

My Mulsanne has a lot less plastic than my V12V incidentally, but more than my Spyker, which has virtually no plastic at all and is more fun to drive than any of them.

Still as I am not in my 30’s I quite like the smoother arrival in the big B these days anyway.

For affordability I recommend my MGB GT V8 which costs £90 to insure and nothing to tax. And it’s a blast to drive and so easy down narrow lanes and parking spaces. £20k for very good example, depreciation unlikely.

[avinalarf]

Snozzer said:

I do care about handling. My point is it can't be exploited legally. My R8 V10 caught me out a couple of times as it drives as easy as a Fiesta, then look down and you're doing 90. You'd probably have more fun at legal speeds in an MX5 than most modern exotica. The 991 is step forward handling wise to a 997, but I'd take a 997 any day as it has more character. My point was the first thing an Aston should be is beautiful. The modern designs aren't and will date quickly.

Points taken , with which I am sympathetic to.
However would it be too much to expect both style and roadholding and quality components for any car costing circa £150K +.

[Jon39]

avinalarf said:

As a teenager I lusted after one of these, what drama !

Certainly dramatic, but with beauty as well.
Love the side view of the rear wings - could have come from the undercarriage cowlings of a 1930s aircraft.

I know very little about these cars, but thinking that some old Rolls Royce cars have quite low asking prices, what would one have to pay ? I guess possibly less that buying back your DB6.

[ExitLeft]

Jon39 said:

Certainly dramatic, but with beauty as well.
Love the side view of the rear wings - could have come from the undercarriage cowlings of a 1930s aircraft.

I know very little about these cars, but thinking that some old Rolls Royce cars have quite low asking prices, what would one have to pay ? I guess possibly less that buying back your DB6.

It’s a Bentley and around a million quid.

[Jon39]

ExitLeft said:

Jon39 said:

Certainly dramatic, but with beauty as well.
Love the side view of the rear wings - could have come from the undercarriage cowlings of a 1930s aircraft.

I know very little about these cars, but thinking that some old Rolls Royce cars have quite low asking prices, what would one have to pay ? I guess possibly less that buying back your DB6.

It’s a Bentley and around a million quid.

Oh, I have suddenly lost interest, Steven.

The prices being achieved during the present bubble, mean that with my mindset, this type of vehicle becomes almost unusable for me to enjoy on the road.
With Aston Martins at our level, there is no need to be in any way concerned when they are driven, or parked.
I remember the DB4 GT Zagato at Burghley. There was someone sitting with it throughout the day.

With my own car, I could have ordered new, but when I found the exact specification, under 3 years old, looking brand new and at half price, that seemed a much more sensible purchase to me. These things are just non-essential toys, which we enjoy and provide pleasure to own, but of course although some might create a capital gain, none of them produce any hassle free income.