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AstonV said:
Jon39 said:
What have I missed here?
Thought it should be spelt Chai, to make a connection with T.
Now I understand.
When I read your original comment, I wondered whether AlexT and Alex Choi might be the same person.
Chai tea, get it?
That led to my query about the spelling.
Haha he's certainly not me. But am guessing he must be the kind of wealthy, thrusting millennial market AM are now trying to appeal to?
I mentioned him because (as I said) his mechanic identified multiple trim issues with the new Vantage, the specifics of which were likely edited out. Probably minor, but of interest to me.
I'm currently biding my time, waiting for the various issues inherent with any new model to surface and be remedied appropriately.
So far I haven't heard of any mechanical issues crop up which is great.
I mentioned him because (as I said) his mechanic identified multiple trim issues with the new Vantage, the specifics of which were likely edited out. Probably minor, but of interest to me.
I'm currently biding my time, waiting for the various issues inherent with any new model to surface and be remedied appropriately.
So far I haven't heard of any mechanical issues crop up which is great.
Edited by AlexT on Tuesday 16th October 01:24
AlexT said:
The new Vantage actually doesn't even have A-class tech. The new A-class is now truly next gen with full digital displays including Benz's new Augmented Reality for the navigation system. AM are actually 2 generations behind Benz.
So I agree, the tech doesn't particuarly appeal at this price point which is a bit of a shame because this could have been an opportunity for AM to revolutionise its range tech-wise; the exterior looks are so beautifully futuristic you'd expect the tech to match at this level. I'm thinking the DBX will be their platform for this.
The facelift AMG GT next year may receive a raft of tech updates that would lift it up one level to the current gen of Benz tech. Currently, IMO Audi/Lambo are already ahead. Bentley with their new Conti GT too.
So I agree, the tech doesn't particuarly appeal at this price point which is a bit of a shame because this could have been an opportunity for AM to revolutionise its range tech-wise; the exterior looks are so beautifully futuristic you'd expect the tech to match at this level. I'm thinking the DBX will be their platform for this.
The facelift AMG GT next year may receive a raft of tech updates that would lift it up one level to the current gen of Benz tech. Currently, IMO Audi/Lambo are already ahead. Bentley with their new Conti GT too.
When I enjoy driving my old fashioned, manual gearbox, manual headlights, manual wipers, no turbochargers, V8V. The last thing I think about is wanting digital technology. The driver involvement, performance and unhindered exhaust sound, is enough for me.
However, as the new Vantage has been designed for young customers, then it presumably does need the 'latest tech'.
Do you share my observation though, that after 18 months, the 'latest tech' always seems to have become unwanted tech?
Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 18th October 08:19
The best way to extend the life of internal car tech is to suppprt CarPlay and the android equivalent. This way you are outsourcing the innovation and progress. Really all you need in the car is a good screen, amp and speakers.
Strangely or intentionally a lot of premium car makers have chosen to ignore this.
Strangely or intentionally a lot of premium car makers have chosen to ignore this.
Bobajobbob said:
The best way to extend the life of internal car tech is to suppprt CarPlay and the android equivalent. This way you are outsourcing the innovation and progress. Really all you need in the car is a good screen, amp and speakers.
Strangely or intentionally a lot of premium car makers have chosen to ignore this.
Preach!Strangely or intentionally a lot of premium car makers have chosen to ignore this.
Car Play on my Golf R is amazing, I can control and listen to things easily & Waze is the best Nav on the market. At some point in the future I hope a clever clogs makes a replacement head unit for the Vanquish with a big screen and apple/android car support.
V8V Pete said:
Which reminds me: Has anyone got the Aston Installations CarPlay upgrade/mod yet?
I believe Dave (DBS2000) is having it done as we speak on his "schmoke-and-a-pancake" Dutch DBS.Check out their latest post on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/astoninstallations
Jon39 said:
Do you share my observation though, that after 18 months, the 'latest tech' always seems to have become unwanted tech?
In my opinion, concerning tech and automotive manufacturers, you are either in it or you are not. Aston Martin have certainly thrown their hat in the ring but was it a particularly good throw (or hat?).
For this day and age it's adequate. But nothing to write home about. They could have really integrated the Benz screen more elegantly and used the latest software just as example. At least AM haven't gone with a distractingly huge central touch-screen, which is what Lambo now appear to be doing in the facelifted Huracan. As I mentioned a while ago, Bugatti got it right with their Chiron.
Edited by AlexT on Friday 19th October 10:50
AlexT said:
...and there is tech that will always be useful (quality of life features such as a 360 degree camera).
Off topic, but a related ditti that you might enjoy.
Constant observation all around, is of course a very important part of good driving. Varied examples of this skill are unfortunately, all too often evident.
Should you ever teach your children to drive, ask them which road sign they have just driven past.
Don't know will probably be the answer, but the question may improve their detailed observational ability, if only to stop you catching them out again.
AlexT said:
Haha he's certainly not me. But am guessing he must be the kind of wealthy, thrusting millennial market AM are now trying to appeal to?
I mentioned him because (as I said) his mechanic identified multiple trim issues with the new Vantage, the specifics of which were likely edited out. Probably minor, but of interest to me.
I'm currently biding my time, waiting for the various issues inherent with any new model to surface and be remedied appropriately.
So far I haven't heard of any mechanical issues crop up which is great.
I spent all day yesterday in a new Vantage at Silverstone on the International circuit. They are bomb proof..........I mentioned him because (as I said) his mechanic identified multiple trim issues with the new Vantage, the specifics of which were likely edited out. Probably minor, but of interest to me.
I'm currently biding my time, waiting for the various issues inherent with any new model to surface and be remedied appropriately.
So far I haven't heard of any mechanical issues crop up which is great.
Edited by AlexT on Tuesday 16th October 01:24
AlexT said:
For this day and age it's adequate. But nothing to write home about. They could have really integrated the Benz screen more elegantly and used the latest software just as example. At least AM haven't gone with a distractingly huge central touch-screen, which is what Lambo now appear to be doing in the facelifted Huracan. As I mentioned a while ago, Bugatti got it right with their Chiron.
There's a few reasons on this one - when the Daimler agreement on engines, architecture and electronics was put in place it was for the current gen thech, a week after the agreement (per se) they upgraded the infotainment to what you now see in the S class etc so Aston would instantly be left behind and I am sure that Merc did it on purpose. But as deal was signed Aston couldn't go back and ask for more/newer stuff. Edited by AlexT on Friday 19th October 10:50
In terms of placement it will be something to do with mere but also there must be some regulation of some description as now most seem 'stuck on' in most vehicles..
roughrider said:
AlexT said:
Haha he's certainly not me. But am guessing he must be the kind of wealthy, thrusting millennial market AM are now trying to appeal to?
I mentioned him because (as I said) his mechanic identified multiple trim issues with the new Vantage, the specifics of which were likely edited out. Probably minor, but of interest to me.
I'm currently biding my time, waiting for the various issues inherent with any new model to surface and be remedied appropriately.
So far I haven't heard of any mechanical issues crop up which is great.
I spent all day yesterday in a new Vantage at Silverstone on the International circuit. They are bomb proof..........I mentioned him because (as I said) his mechanic identified multiple trim issues with the new Vantage, the specifics of which were likely edited out. Probably minor, but of interest to me.
I'm currently biding my time, waiting for the various issues inherent with any new model to surface and be remedied appropriately.
So far I haven't heard of any mechanical issues crop up which is great.
Edited by AlexT on Tuesday 16th October 01:24
I believe that the daimler/aston agreement means they have to use the electrical architecture 1 generation behind mercedes.
The all new MY17+ mercs use the star2.3 electrical system which allows for different screens, higher resolutions, more cameras etc. The current Aston offerings get the previous star2.2 electrical architecture, not that it'll stop you buying one.
The all new MY17+ mercs use the star2.3 electrical system which allows for different screens, higher resolutions, more cameras etc. The current Aston offerings get the previous star2.2 electrical architecture, not that it'll stop you buying one.
Ambleton said:
I believe that the daimler/aston agreement means they have to use the electrical architecture 1 generation behind mercedes.
The all new MY17+ mercs use the star2.3 electrical system which allows for different screens, higher resolutions, more cameras etc. The current Aston offerings get the previous star2.2 electrical architecture, not that it'll stop you buying one.
Actually it does stop me. I don't need/want any MB crap in my Aston; the Ford/Volvo/Jag stuff was good enough for me. An Aston is to DRIVE. If you want to be entertained, sit on your couch at home in front of a big screen...The all new MY17+ mercs use the star2.3 electrical system which allows for different screens, higher resolutions, more cameras etc. The current Aston offerings get the previous star2.2 electrical architecture, not that it'll stop you buying one.
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Actually it does stop me. I don't need/want any MB crap in my Aston; the Ford/Volvo/Jag stuff was good enough for me. An Aston is to DRIVE. If you want to be entertained, sit on your couch at home in front of a big screen...
What an utterly ridiculous statement.Beefmeister said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Actually it does stop me. I don't need/want any MB crap in my Aston; the Ford/Volvo/Jag stuff was good enough for me. An Aston is to DRIVE. If you want to be entertained, sit on your couch at home in front of a big screen...
What an utterly ridiculous statement.Gassing Station | Aston Martin | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff