V8 Twin turbo DB11

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avinalarf

6,438 posts

143 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Ex Boy Racer said:
Look there, Sancho Panza, my friend, and see those thirty or so wild giants, with whom I intend to do battle and kill each and all of them, so with their stolen booty we can begin to enrich ourselves.
I could not have put it better myself.
Very apposite comment that really closes down further debate on the subject.

V8 Vantage GT

1,569 posts

107 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
What's with the plant where the engine is manufactured? I care what is manufactured not where. You confuse bespoke design with manufacturing. Bespoke means that the engine is used by no one else but Aston Martin, not where it was assembled.

I'd rather have an advanced Ford Coyote engine with their flat plane crank in a Vantage, which has a far more exotic sound that a fart can AMG lump, that's for sure. At least Ford and AM have a history together.
I agree. Imagine what Aston could have done with Fords flat plane NA 8500 rpm Voodoo engine as a staring point.

Nbgring

153 posts

124 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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That is exactly what I intended to say: using a McLaren-Ricardo engine or a Ford Coyote engine is not bespoke either.
Please accept my apologies that I have not included a Ford Coyote in the options. Maybe this engine was also not well known in Gaydon, otherwise they might have considered it already for the current Vantage? biggrin

Is the Coyote one of these exclusive and rare tuning engines for a Mustang? I had the opportunity to listen to the sound during my last trip to Dallas and I was really delighted. clap

Nbgring

153 posts

124 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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About driving the DB11 (V12). I absolutely liked the setup. But I did not like at all the soft brakes.rolleyes Anybody the same opinion?

V8 Vantage GT

1,569 posts

107 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Nbgring said:
That is exactly what I intended to say: using a McLaren-Ricardo engine or a Ford Coyote engine is not bespoke either.
Please accept my apologies that I have not included a Ford Coyote in the options. Maybe this engine was also not well known in Gaydon, otherwise they might have considered it already for the current Vantage? biggrin

Is the Coyote one of these exclusive and rare tuning engines for a Mustang? I had the opportunity to listen to the sound during my last trip to Dallas and I was really delighted. clap
Ford Coyote V8 has been out for quite a while, I don't know how closely related, probably not at all to the AJV8, but it sure looks awfully similar. The Voodoo flat plane engine is an all new engine out only a few years. But Aston could have used it as a starting point much like they did with AJV8 engine block. It is flat plane engine like Ferrari, it can rev higher RPM's and has a distinct sound of it's own. Because Ford has a different firing order, the engine does not sound a exotic as the Ferrari, but it does sound wicked.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

177 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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V8 Vantage GT said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
What's with the plant where the engine is manufactured? I care what is manufactured not where. You confuse bespoke design with manufacturing. Bespoke means that the engine is used by no one else but Aston Martin, not where it was assembled.

I'd rather have an advanced Ford Coyote engine with their flat plane crank in a Vantage, which has a far more exotic sound that a fart can AMG lump, that's for sure. At least Ford and AM have a history together.
I agree. Imagine what Aston could have done with Fords flat plane NA 8500 rpm Voodoo engine as a staring point.
And I did intend to say Voodoo, not Coyote. Fabulous motor.

CSK1

1,608 posts

125 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Nbgring said:
And I am thrilled about the fact that the next Vantage will have the AMG-derivative as primary engine option.
So you should be being a German national! smile

Wayne95

405 posts

247 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Nbgring said:
About driving the DB11 (V12). I absolutely liked the setup. But I did not like at all the soft brakes.rolleyes Anybody the same opinion?
I thought the brakes were sift too. Effective but didn't give confidence.

Then I tried the V12V ceramics - much much better

David W.

1,912 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Just watched this on YouTube
https://youtu.be/WTlOP6bUtmY
Love the way they have revisited this way of having the bonnet open.

avinalarf

6,438 posts

143 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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David W. said:
Just watched this on YouTube
https://youtu.be/WTlOP6bUtmY
Love the way they have revisited this way of having the bonnet open.
Re.the bonnet comment,the bonnet on my DB6 opened the same way.
I recall a very hairy moment when driving my DB6 on the M4 at a fair lick.
Suddenly all went black ahead and it took me a moment to realise that the bonnet had sprung open,Lordy that was scary.
Fortunately the traffic was light and I managed to slow down and migrate over to the slow lane and stop to secure the bonnet.

Jon39

12,840 posts

144 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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avinalarf said:
Re.the bonnet comment,the bonnet on my DB6 opened the same way.
I recall a very hairy moment when driving my DB6 on the M4 at a fair lick.
Suddenly all went black ahead and it took me a moment to realise that the bonnet had sprung open,Lordy that was scary.
Fortunately the traffic was light and I managed to slow down and migrate over to the slow lane and stop to secure the bonnet.

You must really be avinalarf now.

Even I can work out, that at a 'fair lick, a forward hinged bonnet would be held closed, or almost closed by the movement through air.
A rear hinged bonnet would be blown open by the air, if it became unlatched.

Glad you distracted me just now, because I am trying to mirror a tablet to a television by wireless. It is driving me nuts.
It all used to work well with my ASUS tablet, but it seems not with a Samsung. Technology is great, but is often frustrating.










avinalarf

6,438 posts

143 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Jon39 said:
avinalarf said:
Re.the bonnet comment,the bonnet on my DB6 opened the same way.
I recall a very hairy moment when driving my DB6 on the M4 at a fair lick.
Suddenly all went black ahead and it took me a moment to realise that the bonnet had sprung open,Lordy that was scary.
Fortunately the traffic was light and I managed to slow down and migrate over to the slow lane and stop to secure the bonnet.

You must really be avinalarf now.

Even I can work out, that at a 'fair lick, a forward hinged bonnet would be held closed, or almost closed by the movement through air.
A rear hinged bonnet would be blown open by the air, if it became unlatched.

Glad you distracted me just now, because I am trying to mirror a tablet to a television by wireless. It is driving me nuts.
It all used to work well with my ASUS tablet, but it seems not with a Samsung. Technology is great, but is often frustrating.
No Jon,absolutely serious,one doesn't forget a moment like that.
I don't know the physics behind it,others might.

David W.

1,912 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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I think we should campaign to have "fair lick" on the speedo somewhere. I"d suggest at around the 100 mark.