The death knell for petrol engines
Discussion
jonby said:
Last ever petrol engined Aston Martin would be quite something.
Your words might have a more profound meaning, Jonby.
How many of us would even have any interest, in buying an Aston Martin with a Scalextric exhaust sound?
Last ever Aston Martin would be quite something.
Anyway, it was all great fun while it lasted.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 26th July 12:05
Jon39 said:
jonby said:
Last ever petrol engined Aston Martin would be quite something.
Your words might have a more profound meaning, Jonby.
How many of us would even have any interest, in buying an Aston Martin with a Scalextric exhaust sound?
Last ever Aston Martin would be quite something.
Anyway, it was all great fun while it lasted.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 26th July 12:05
You can certainly see why Aston are busy partnering with so many other firms
Also, a combination of electric power, autonomous driving and what are bound to be ever stricter rules on speed limits will surely lead to a huge slump in the sale of 2 door / 2 seat cars over comfier, roomier, 4/5+ person vehicles ?
I'm filling my R8 with super unleaded this weekend and heading to Elvington TOTB to watch thousands of horsepower being used as the good Lord intended.
i think we've another good few years of this yet, but enjoy it while you can and its affordable. i'm hoping to have shuffled off well before its compulsory to go to work in a milk float and have a socket outside the house.
would be interesting to see where all the leccy is coming from in 23 years time, given the time it takes to get permission to build a nuclear station!
i think we've another good few years of this yet, but enjoy it while you can and its affordable. i'm hoping to have shuffled off well before its compulsory to go to work in a milk float and have a socket outside the house.
would be interesting to see where all the leccy is coming from in 23 years time, given the time it takes to get permission to build a nuclear station!
Cannot see this ever happening - ridiculous statement to make.
All those that have invested in petrol/diesel cars and the whole infrastructure surrounding this, not to mention taxes and the like.....utter rubbish.
The electrical infrastructure is at capacity to bursting already, how the hell could it cope with the burden of everyone charging their mega powered milk floats! That was an issue with the old economy 7 tariffs, the grids max demand shifting to night time which defeated the objective of being able to supply cheap energy!
Don't think anyone has really thought this through.
I hear that there are some good deals on the horizon for petrol stations
All those that have invested in petrol/diesel cars and the whole infrastructure surrounding this, not to mention taxes and the like.....utter rubbish.
The electrical infrastructure is at capacity to bursting already, how the hell could it cope with the burden of everyone charging their mega powered milk floats! That was an issue with the old economy 7 tariffs, the grids max demand shifting to night time which defeated the objective of being able to supply cheap energy!
Don't think anyone has really thought this through.
I hear that there are some good deals on the horizon for petrol stations
jonby said:
We will end up retiring to another country and shipping our cars there. Ideally, a group of fabulously wealthy petrolheads will essentially buy an enormous piece of land and create a giant, small country sized, retirement resort for petrolheads. Wales would be ideal in many ways.....
Rains too much and someone tried building a wall years ago, didn't work. How about Cornwall? Fortify the Tamar and pull up the drawbridge!
My brother recently test drove an electric car, out of curiosity I tagged along. (He didn't buy it, the range and charging times are not quite there yet, but not far away!). As much as I really wanted to hate the car I couldn't, as an everyday form of transport they are definitely the future regardless of if we like them or not.
Today the UK government published the same message that has already been announced by several countries across Europe, more countries will follow suit and as they do car companies will begin to accelerate the rate of development for electric vehicles, I think we'll see this happen before the date disclosed.
Remember the UK is only a small part of the global car economy, change is coming....thankfully I'll be too old to care
Today the UK government published the same message that has already been announced by several countries across Europe, more countries will follow suit and as they do car companies will begin to accelerate the rate of development for electric vehicles, I think we'll see this happen before the date disclosed.
Remember the UK is only a small part of the global car economy, change is coming....thankfully I'll be too old to care
jonby said:
We will end up retiring to another country and shipping our cars there. Ideally, a group of fabulously wealthy petrolheads will essentially buy an enormous piece of land and create a giant, small country sized, retirement resort for petrolheads. Wales would be ideal in many ways.....
Similar thing happened in Australia in 1959 jonby - post apocalyptic last grand prix - On The Beach 
Simon Lane said:
I think the biggest challenge to running 'classics' in the future will be the refuelling infrastructure. If we are all charging our cars at home overnight I'm not sure owning a petrol station will be a particularly great business model in 20 years time.
Talking of classics, this is slightly off topic I know, but I've just invested in this 1 owner, 1989 635 csi Highline which is pretty much as new, and I plan to keep it forever. Just hope I can still drive it! Its no Aston Martin, but at least it is red.......and my daughter's pram fits in the boot
Fantastic shark nose beemer! Congratulations Talking of classics, this is slightly off topic I know, but I've just invested in this 1 owner, 1989 635 csi Highline which is pretty much as new, and I plan to keep it forever. Just hope I can still drive it! Its no Aston Martin, but at least it is red.......and my daughter's pram fits in the boot
RobDown said:
So Michael Gove has announced that sales of new petrol and diesel cars will be banned from 2040.
Presumably won't be that far after that that someone bans existing cars from the road too
End of an era
One thing that irritates me in all of this is that the government seems to be making the natural assumption that electric is the only way forward (with all the problems attached to that in terms of electricity generation, producing batteries, infrastructure required for rapid recharging etc etc)
This is going to give our governor of CA ideas. After all he is already completely insane.Presumably won't be that far after that that someone bans existing cars from the road too
End of an era
One thing that irritates me in all of this is that the government seems to be making the natural assumption that electric is the only way forward (with all the problems attached to that in terms of electricity generation, producing batteries, infrastructure required for rapid recharging etc etc)
I fear that this transsition will go much faster than we all anticipate with uninformed politicians driving the change and giving towns and city centres all the arguments they need to ban petrol/diesel powered cars. The motorcar is the 2nd biggest investment a family ever makes. If this invstment now comes with a due date whereafter it is scrap value people will react much earlier than in 2040 - unless a new technology comes up and the whole thing is reversed.
Simon Lane said:
I think the biggest challenge to running 'classics' in the future will be the refuelling infrastructure. If we are all charging our cars at home overnight I'm not sure owning a petrol station will be a particularly great business model in 20 years time.
Talking of classics, this is slightly off topic I know, but I've just invested in this 1 owner, 1989 635 csi Highline which is pretty much as new, and I plan to keep it forever. Just hope I can still drive it! Its no Aston Martin, but at least it is red.......and my daughter's pram fits in the boot
Thats lovely , looks like new.Talking of classics, this is slightly off topic I know, but I've just invested in this 1 owner, 1989 635 csi Highline which is pretty much as new, and I plan to keep it forever. Just hope I can still drive it! Its no Aston Martin, but at least it is red.......and my daughter's pram fits in the boot
CEO of Aston Martin just on tv making a comment. He looked worried!
How for example will he now secure investment for new models when new petrol cars will not be allowed. This will hit share prices horrendously for those manufacturers where a battery version just won't sell.
And agree with an earlier poster; fossil fuel will become increasingly harder to come by, and no doubt prohibitively expensive.
Unintended consequences come to mind (or maybe they are indeed intended!)
Interesting times ahead.
How for example will he now secure investment for new models when new petrol cars will not be allowed. This will hit share prices horrendously for those manufacturers where a battery version just won't sell.
And agree with an earlier poster; fossil fuel will become increasingly harder to come by, and no doubt prohibitively expensive.
Unintended consequences come to mind (or maybe they are indeed intended!)
Interesting times ahead.
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