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WelshBoltonBen

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57 posts

3 months

Thursday 11th January
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Hi all- I know this probably has been done to death and is subjective but any pointers as to which tyres give the best balance between grip and performance particularly on our greasy slippery roads? Couple of times the arse end of the car has stepped out on fairly dry roads with not a huge amount of throttle, happy with that of course, and expected, but wondered if anyone has nailed the “perfect” tyre for the v8 to get maximum power down?
Thanks
Edit* want a tyre for all year round driving, not for track use, just crappy British road use!

Edited by WelshBoltonBen on Thursday 11th January 14:53

Phil74891

646 posts

58 months

Thursday 11th January
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Before concluding on the tyres:

Have you got Sports or Lightweight seats?
Manual or Sports shift?

(Just to help keep it going for 57 pages).

Seriously though, I put Michelin PS4s on my RS4 and it transformed the car in the conditions you explain. (From Pirelli). Will put the same on my V12VS when it's time.

AMDBSVNick

5,845 posts

87 months

Thursday 11th January
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Phil74891 said:
Seriously though, I put Michelin PS4s on my RS4 and it transformed the car in the conditions you explain. (From Pirelli). Will put the same on my V12VS when it's time.
This seems to have been the general consensus for about a year on here.

Manual with Sports biggrin

WelshBoltonBen

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

Thursday 11th January
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Manual with sports also. Just to keep things rolling!

WelshBoltonBen

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

Thursday 11th January
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Phil74891 said:
Before concluding on the tyres:

Have you got Sports or Lightweight seats?
Manual or Sports shift?

(Just to help keep it going for 57 pages).

Seriously though, I put Michelin PS4s on my RS4 and it transformed the car in the conditions you explain. (From Pirelli). Will put the same on my V12VS when it's time.
Thanks for this. Nice garage of motors too!
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Crazy_Sean

41 posts

8 months

Friday 12th January
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OK so here is my two cents worth.......

On my BMW X5 I have Bridgestone Duellers..... I didn't choose them.... they came shod like that.

On the Aston Martin DB9 I have Bridgestone Potenza things.... Once again, I didn't choose them.

I used to have a BMW M3... It came with Michelins and they were fantastic. they wore out a little too fast.... mostly because I was having too much fun with them.

In short, get the Pilot Sports.... you won't regret it. I'm sort of looking forward to the X5 and the Aston ones wearing out so I can get the Michelins too.

Gday2

147 posts

48 months

Friday 12th January
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Michelin PSS on mine and love them, a real step or two up from the Potenzas. They need to be warmed up to give best grip. Next one will be the P4S. They should be even better.
Cheers
Christian

Cockernee

3,003 posts

85 months

Friday 12th January
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PS4S all day every day.

I have them on my Macca and PSS on the V12V, but will change to PS4S when the next change is needed. The PSS is a step up from the PZero and the PS4S another step further in poor road conditions from the PSS.

It will be the best upgrade you can make.

Big E 118

2,131 posts

94 months

Friday 12th January
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Another vote for PS4S's here.

I changed my 911 from OEM Bridgestone Potenza's to Cup 2's then to PS4S's and in my opinion there was no loss in dry grip between Cups and PS4S and they are better in cold weather and standing water. The Michelins are worlds better than Bridgestones, turn in was significantly better and the ride more compliant.

I've got about 2mm to wear off the Bridgestones on my V8VS before swapping to PS4S's. Might order some soon before the spring rush makes them tricky to get hold of.

PeteB62

14 posts

5 months

Friday 12th January
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On Tyres just trying to get a rough idea what kind of mileage to expect and I know it's very subjective.

For Reference I have V8V, new tyres Pirelli in March, 6K miles still look good dont blast it that much!!!...

Nbgring

12 posts

48 months

Saturday 13th January
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If you drive a Vantage V8 with sizes 245/40 R19 and 285/35 R19 you can rule out Michelin since they do not manufacture (front-) tyres in that size approved for sale into Europe. Sadly, since the PS4S is considered to be among the best tyres for luxury sports cars.

The best tyre in above mentioned sizes would be the Continental SportContact 6 - and that one is available in Europe.

When I looked recently Goodyear (Eagle F1 - 3), Pirelli (Corsa) and Bridgestone (S007) did not offer sports tyres in above sizes.
I certainly would not recommend older tyre designs as the Bridgestone RE50.

Mansfield

172 posts

30 months

Saturday 13th January
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Nbgring said:
If you drive a Vantage V8 with sizes 245/40 R19 and 285/35 R19 you can rule out Michelin since they do not manufacture (front-) tyres in that size approved for sale into Europe. Sadly, since the PS4S is considered to be among the best tyres for luxury sports cars.
Michelin Pilot Super Sports are still available in the above sizes as an alternative to the ones you are suggesting.

old phart

329 posts

35 months

Saturday 13th January
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Don't know why but never noticed the 40 vs 35 profile on tires sizes for front vs rear. Any know any particular reason why? 40's would be a bit softer i assume.

Mansfield

172 posts

30 months

Saturday 13th January
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I would assume to give a very similar circumference in tyres between front and rear?

macdeb

6,819 posts

180 months

Saturday 13th January
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Is there not an issue with regards to warranty. I seem to recall talking to an AM dealer and he said he has to put AM approved tyres on a car for it to get a 'Timeless' warranty. Or is that bks?

Ian_UK1

1,481 posts

119 months

Saturday 13th January
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Mansfield said:
Michelin Pilot Super Sports are still available in the above sizes as an alternative to the ones you are suggesting.
When I was looking for tyres a few weeks ago, Michelin Customer Services originally stated, as you have above, that PSS is available in 245/40x19. I was really pleased as I'd used PSS on my last 911 and they really were superb tyres. However, when I came to try to order, I couldn't find this size anywhere - including Michelin's UK website. To clarify things, I contacted Michelin's Customer Services again and had the enquiry escalated. This was the reply:



In short - Michelin doesn't make a matched set of tyres for V8V with 245/40x19 on the front! The only Michelin option is standard PS4 (245/40x19) on the front and PS4S (285/35x19) on the rear.


Edited by Ian_UK1 on Saturday 13th January 18:04

Mansfield

172 posts

30 months

Saturday 13th January
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I bought 245/40/19 supersports and 285/35/19 off ebay here in Germany last week.

All be it the dot rating was from 2016 .

bogie

12,821 posts

197 months

Saturday 13th January
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macdeb said:
Is there not an issue with regards to warranty. I seem to recall talking to an AM dealer and he said he has to put AM approved tyres on a car for it to get a 'Timeless' warranty. Or is that bks?
The dealer should fit the car out with approved tyre fitment as part of Timeless scheme .....they cannot supply it on a set of Wingwangwongs from china.

You can put whatever you like on it generally. However if you have a serious accident, accident investigators will check to see if you have approved tyres in the correct sizes, just in case they contributed to the accident.

Ken Figenus

3,582 posts

42 months

Sunday 14th January
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If you can get Pilot Super Sport (PSS) these are excellent. They have been superceded by Pilot Sport 4S (dont forget the 'S' on the end) but the former is a tyre that absolutely transformed mine in place of the AMR approved Crapstones it came on.

Touchtronic II, leather armchairs with TV's in the back.

WelshBoltonBen

Original Poster:

57 posts

3 months

Sunday 14th January
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Cheers everyone- Michelin PSS or PS4S it is then- seems to be the general consensus. Now, to change cats or not.....