New AMOC Club Chairman
Discussion
burntout said:
Has anyone seen that AMOC members get the chance to vote in a new chairman this year???
Has anyone got any views on the two candidates and how they might vote?
Quite a lot of responsibility for whoever gets the job
Have you been on the AMOC forum. ?Has anyone got any views on the two candidates and how they might vote?
Quite a lot of responsibility for whoever gets the job
Some interesting threads- each candidate has their own detailing what they would like to do. Also the ask the COM thread. Is interesting.
It might also be interesting to go to the AGM this year where some questions re the losses from last years events will probably be asked. The fact that I have put so many interestings does make a bit sad but I don’t get out much. 😂
Must admit when I received the latest AMOC publications in the post last week, I found the financials almost the most interesting bit. I first noticed the nice upturn in income... only then seeing the even bigger hike in expenses.
It’s a club, so doesn’t have the remotest importance of the NHS IT fiasco. But I’m its own micro-way, there are parallels with nowt much to show for the £££ spent.
I do wish the AMOC well, but fear it’s the last posting I get from them. I joined with family membership last May and was asked to pay again 01 January. I asked if the “missing” 5 months would be credited but the response wasn’t positive. I repeated the email thread after my further question wasn’t answered but never got a response.
So I’m going to spend the £150(?) on two tanks of unleaded instead
It’s a historic club and would be good to have around for reference material and sentimentality. I wish the new emperor every success (genuinely). In the meantime I’ll continue to lurk here.
It’s a club, so doesn’t have the remotest importance of the NHS IT fiasco. But I’m its own micro-way, there are parallels with nowt much to show for the £££ spent.
I do wish the AMOC well, but fear it’s the last posting I get from them. I joined with family membership last May and was asked to pay again 01 January. I asked if the “missing” 5 months would be credited but the response wasn’t positive. I repeated the email thread after my further question wasn’t answered but never got a response.
So I’m going to spend the £150(?) on two tanks of unleaded instead
It’s a historic club and would be good to have around for reference material and sentimentality. I wish the new emperor every success (genuinely). In the meantime I’ll continue to lurk here.
cayman-black]ston Traveller said:
Have you been on the AMOC forum. ?
Yes , i was the only one there.
Not anymore Paul. Probably more going on there than on the PH forum. Struggle to believe I am saying that but there are a lot of angry people over there at the moment.Yes , i was the only one there.
Two candidates for Chairman are both very experienced in AMOC circles. My biggest problem is the Chairman of the Club also having a business that repairs and restores Aston’s. If a difficult situation arises who do you put first your customer or the Club?
Anne doesn’t have a direct conflict but here husband owns an Aston related business so it could be argued that there is a similar conflict. They are the only candidates and both could be said to have conflicts!
There are lots of things to sort out in the Club as it would seem it is a little bit out of control so good luck to whoever takes it on.
IanV12VR said:
Not anymore Paul. Probably more going on there than on the PH forum. Struggle to believe I am saying that but there are a lot of angry people over there at the moment.
Two candidates for Chairman are both very experienced in AMOC circles. My biggest problem is the Chairman of the Club also having a business that repairs and restores Aston’s. If a difficult situation arises who do you put first your customer or the Club?
Anne doesn’t have a direct conflict but here husband owns an Aston related business so it could be argued that there is a similar conflict. They are the only candidates and both could be said to have conflicts!
There are lots of things to sort out in the Club as it would seem it is a little bit out of control so good luck to whoever takes it on.
AMOC is no stranger to those conflicts though it seems, after all the disastrous Forum-rebuild contract was awarded to a Committee member/IT advisor wasn’t it? How much worse could it be with Anne/Tim?Two candidates for Chairman are both very experienced in AMOC circles. My biggest problem is the Chairman of the Club also having a business that repairs and restores Aston’s. If a difficult situation arises who do you put first your customer or the Club?
Anne doesn’t have a direct conflict but here husband owns an Aston related business so it could be argued that there is a similar conflict. They are the only candidates and both could be said to have conflicts!
There are lots of things to sort out in the Club as it would seem it is a little bit out of control so good luck to whoever takes it on.
Putting that to one side (and knowing now that Tony doesn’t like prawn sandwiches!), I won’t be voting.
AMOC needs a massive shake-up, it’s failing dismally the majority of Aston Martin owners (those who have a Gaydon car) which is why we congregate on here or Sixspeed. And when I’ve mentioned this I was told he Club “didn’t need to attract new members, it already had enough”.
I can’t see either candidate providing a shake-up. A vote for either appears to be a vote for the status quo. Or am I wrong?
Ps I know Ian that you do a great job as Area Rep Down in the South-West and get lots of Gaydon cars. But here in West London we’re a bit orphaned. The Central London area is dormant. The meets in neighbouring areas are an hour or so away which makes it more than tricky to do a mid-week get together. So AMOC is struggling to be relevant to me (I’m only a member now for the insurance scheme)
It is good to see that some people have come back to the AMOC Forum and yes, there is a proper "discussion" going on. When nominations for posts on the management committee have to be in before anyone has actually seen the accounts it is perhaps no surprise that only the "insiders" put their names forward.
What is clear is that the majority of Club members who use the Forum are not going to allow "business as usual" going forward. Nor are they going to allow people to "run" events for their own benefit. I urge any of you who are AMOC members to use your votes. There is only one choice for Chairman given that one of the candidates is hopelessly conflicted and was largely responsible for most of the big losses. The Thread "Questions for the COM" makes good reading but so does one of the candidate threads. How may times can you NOT answer a question.
Yes, the Club ignores most of the potential members (Gaydon era) which is totally wrong. But that WILL change.
What is clear is that the majority of Club members who use the Forum are not going to allow "business as usual" going forward. Nor are they going to allow people to "run" events for their own benefit. I urge any of you who are AMOC members to use your votes. There is only one choice for Chairman given that one of the candidates is hopelessly conflicted and was largely responsible for most of the big losses. The Thread "Questions for the COM" makes good reading but so does one of the candidate threads. How may times can you NOT answer a question.
Yes, the Club ignores most of the potential members (Gaydon era) which is totally wrong. But that WILL change.
Gbox said:
...Yes, the Club ignores most of the potential members (Gaydon era) which is totally wrong. But that WILL change.
You see, I've been a member for 10 years and I own an older Aston bt i cannot reconcile that statement with what I see. I've been on some excellent tours and events with AMOC and I would say, apart from concours, the Gaydon era cars always outweigh the Felthams and Newport Pagnell cars. I simply fail to see why there is this perception that modern Astons are not catered for by teh club. Rich - I haven’t been a member of AMOC as long as you. But in the last few years I’d highlight (from a Gaydon perspective):
1. The central AMOC organisation appears to be based around organising two events; the Spring and Autumn Concours. Those are nice, I’ll hopefully attend the one near Reading this year. But let’s be honest they’re really designed for the Classic cars (which I love too, hence why I will try to go).
2. The monthly magazine is dominated by discussion on Classic and Vintage cars
3. The Gaydon section of the AMOC forum is moribund (accept there’s a degree of circularity there).
I don’t want to be just negative. So to be constructive what might appeal to Gaydon owners? I look at Supercar Driver (which I could join for a similar cost to AMOC) - Track days would be the obvious thing (looking forward to the one organised by Paul on here).
Visits to dealers (we organise those on here, why doesn’t AMOC?). Visits to other sports car manufacturers. Visits to people who make mods/exhausts etc. Or manufacturers of things that might be of interest to AM buyers (vineyards, watches (not my cup of tea personally)). Visits to racing car outfits (Prodrive, Red Bull?). Even just a get together followed by a drive out would be a good start - the Gaydon cars have the advantage that they can move
The problem is when I mentioned this to Ctte members (at a dinner where we were sat next to each other) the ideas were sneered at, as though it might somehow cheapen the club to appeal to new owners like this. And I don’t say that lightly, I would have cancelled my membership on the spot if I could have!
Have I missed something? If I lived in an area with some activity would they be doing something like those suggestions? I’ve yet to see anything like it advertised in the magazine. But maybe I’ve not looked hard enough
1. The central AMOC organisation appears to be based around organising two events; the Spring and Autumn Concours. Those are nice, I’ll hopefully attend the one near Reading this year. But let’s be honest they’re really designed for the Classic cars (which I love too, hence why I will try to go).
2. The monthly magazine is dominated by discussion on Classic and Vintage cars
3. The Gaydon section of the AMOC forum is moribund (accept there’s a degree of circularity there).
I don’t want to be just negative. So to be constructive what might appeal to Gaydon owners? I look at Supercar Driver (which I could join for a similar cost to AMOC) - Track days would be the obvious thing (looking forward to the one organised by Paul on here).
Visits to dealers (we organise those on here, why doesn’t AMOC?). Visits to other sports car manufacturers. Visits to people who make mods/exhausts etc. Or manufacturers of things that might be of interest to AM buyers (vineyards, watches (not my cup of tea personally)). Visits to racing car outfits (Prodrive, Red Bull?). Even just a get together followed by a drive out would be a good start - the Gaydon cars have the advantage that they can move
The problem is when I mentioned this to Ctte members (at a dinner where we were sat next to each other) the ideas were sneered at, as though it might somehow cheapen the club to appeal to new owners like this. And I don’t say that lightly, I would have cancelled my membership on the spot if I could have!
Have I missed something? If I lived in an area with some activity would they be doing something like those suggestions? I’ve yet to see anything like it advertised in the magazine. But maybe I’ve not looked hard enough
Fair comments Rob, and ones I can't disagree with, not that I'm trying to. I also like to see my car moving which is why I have tried to join many of the events and tours that require driving; Burghley, Le Mans, Italy, Switzerland etc. On these trips there's alway more than 50% moden cars, indeed the first one I signed up for I was worried about keeping up - actually that's not a problem. 
Incidentally I recollect the dinner you mentioned and I was somewhat annoyed too. Denise was asked what car she drove and when she replied "Porsche" the response was "Oh dear, I do feel sorry for you." I fail to understand why people feel the need to be rude like that. There's only a very few people who can make a remark like that and make it sound amusing.
Incidentally I recollect the dinner you mentioned and I was somewhat annoyed too. Denise was asked what car she drove and when she replied "Porsche" the response was "Oh dear, I do feel sorry for you." I fail to understand why people feel the need to be rude like that. There's only a very few people who can make a remark like that and make it sound amusing.
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