New DBS Superleggera
Discussion
Snb965 said:
Fully leaked, a little underwhelmed tbh but I'll hold off for the live images.
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/here-s-the-...
Sorry to go against the grain here, but to me, that looks absolutely fantastic!https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/here-s-the-...
Like it hugely more than when I first saw the previous gen DBS.
Well done AM!
soofsayer said:
I thought the same until I saw the picture of the rear end.
It’s the rear that really sold it to me (not a phrase I utter publicly too much #metoo) 
Love the front grille too. Proportions are spot-on for an über-GT.
Interior may be DB11-derived, but it’s classy.
Whereas I wouldn’t really go for a DB11 (like I wouldn’t lean towards a DB9), this floats my boat like the previous DBS never did.
But I would like to opt for AM wings on the rump and perhaps swap out the AM text or move that lower down.
Well good that the images are out there now. I think it's fair to say, like many cars, it is SOOOO much better in the flesh and has a real presence. As others have said such a shame the interior is just a DB11 interior but the outside really is stunning and I'm not a fan of the DB11.
nickv8 said:
Sorry to go against the grain here, but to me, that looks absolutely fantastic!
Like it hugely more than when I first saw the previous gen DBS.
Well done AM!
+1. Best looking of the "turbo-generation" cars. The rear is a bit fussy but I assume there's air-flow functionality involved. Perhaps a front licence plate will breakup the wide front maw.Like it hugely more than when I first saw the previous gen DBS.
Well done AM!
With every new model, there now always seems to be great emphasis on downforce.
'... a total of 397 pounds (180 kg) of downforce, which is more than any other series-production AM car to date.'
Is my Vantage still safe to drive quickly, or should I carry a passenger from my local Sumo wrestling club ?
Perhaps lucky that I did not choose the lightweight seats.
It’s a great looking car, no doubt about that.
But wasn’t the plan to be that the new range of cars were to be significantly different from each other?
Something about APs mum being able to tell them apart?
I do see an awful lot of similarities to the DB11.
Would still give my right arm for one though.
But wasn’t the plan to be that the new range of cars were to be significantly different from each other?
Something about APs mum being able to tell them apart?
I do see an awful lot of similarities to the DB11.
Would still give my right arm for one though.
Edited by james-witton on Tuesday 26th June 09:00
tuffer said:
That is very very nice but is it not just a DB11 with some modified bodywork or is that the point?
The DBS is a large chunk more car than the DB11 AMR, let alone the original V12. Unlike the refinements and improvements that went into the last gen DBS to distance it from the DB9, this DBS is something else.Whether it's a success, who knows - recently there's been issues with acceptance of Aston's design language on the 2nd century cars. Performance wise, I don't believe owners will feel short changed. It'll keep up with an 812SF. and have more usable power. It'll be a wake up call for Ferrari, and I cant remember the last time that happened; it's another triumph for the marque - even if some don't like the grille, or the rear.
The nearest thing to a road legal Aston worthy of carrying the AMR badge since launching the AMR sub brand.............but this car is not being sold as an AMR
These posts from the last 24 hours sum up the problem with the GT range and the AMR brand
DB11 V8, one assumes they won't be able to resist a DB11 V8 S or AMR, the already defunct DB11 V12, DB11 V12 AMR, DB11 V12 AMR Signature pack, DBS Superleggera and people are already speculating about a DBS AMR, all with a similar function, looks, interior, etc and relatively small price jumps.
It's such a shame that when they produce a great car like the new DBS, it's overshadowed by the cynical and poorly thought out marketing of the range as a whole and still, no serious attempts to solve one of Aston's biggest problems which prevents them from selling as many new cars at full list price as they could, especially of cars that are more than 12 months into their life cycle - a proper long term stab at stemming depreciation to make it easier (less expensive) for owners to change cars more frequently - that requires establishing consistent model cycles that people understand, pricing the cars correctly from day one and then maintaining control over discounts and stocking levels
They would be far better making a genuinely different (production series) car like a DB11 shooting brake instead of going back to Russian dolls and the GT range would be better served mid-long term if it consisted solely of DB11 V8 and new DBS - proper clear air difference between the two in performance, price, looks (ish), engine type, etc
These posts from the last 24 hours sum up the problem with the GT range and the AMR brand
ajr550 said:
Confused now.
What is price difference between this and a DB11 AMR ?
Will there be a DBS SUPERLEGGERA AMR ?
What is price difference between this and a DB11 AMR ?
Will there be a DBS SUPERLEGGERA AMR ?
AlexT said:
So what is the aim of this car? It's basically a sporty DB11. But isn't that a DB11 AMR? I could understand if they had shorted the car and made it a two-seater with a different interior....a car that current new Vantage owners could eventually upgrade to.
AdamV12V said:
Anybody know when the DBS Superleggera AMR will be coming out? 
We are back to Virage all over againDB11 V8, one assumes they won't be able to resist a DB11 V8 S or AMR, the already defunct DB11 V12, DB11 V12 AMR, DB11 V12 AMR Signature pack, DBS Superleggera and people are already speculating about a DBS AMR, all with a similar function, looks, interior, etc and relatively small price jumps.
It's such a shame that when they produce a great car like the new DBS, it's overshadowed by the cynical and poorly thought out marketing of the range as a whole and still, no serious attempts to solve one of Aston's biggest problems which prevents them from selling as many new cars at full list price as they could, especially of cars that are more than 12 months into their life cycle - a proper long term stab at stemming depreciation to make it easier (less expensive) for owners to change cars more frequently - that requires establishing consistent model cycles that people understand, pricing the cars correctly from day one and then maintaining control over discounts and stocking levels
They would be far better making a genuinely different (production series) car like a DB11 shooting brake instead of going back to Russian dolls and the GT range would be better served mid-long term if it consisted solely of DB11 V8 and new DBS - proper clear air difference between the two in performance, price, looks (ish), engine type, etc
NFC 85 Vette said:
It'll be a wake up call for Ferrari, and I cant remember the last time that happened; it's another triumph for the marque - even if some don't like the grille, or the rear.
This won’t worry ferrari at all. Their 812 has an engine with 800hp and no turbo’s, and is sold out for its entire production run. Ahhh - the most iconic shape of the grill has been lost, the angular bits behind the front wheels look strange. Its not what I would call beautiful.
The DB11 has the grill shape and flows nicely - sure its different to the DB9 but it looks handsome. Both Db9 and Db11 are beautiful cars and would happily have a DB11 instead of my DB9 but the new dbs jars with me, doesn't flow.
I really want to like it but its just too Lexus/ford styling then an Aston - beauty is in the eye of the beholder that's for sure.
The DB11 has the grill shape and flows nicely - sure its different to the DB9 but it looks handsome. Both Db9 and Db11 are beautiful cars and would happily have a DB11 instead of my DB9 but the new dbs jars with me, doesn't flow.
I really want to like it but its just too Lexus/ford styling then an Aston - beauty is in the eye of the beholder that's for sure.
So, so disappointed with this, it's like a DB11 with a bad body kit. Only they've took the good bits from the DB11 and made it worse.
This new fad for putting a large grille and black wheels on AM's is ridiculous, where's the elegance and beauty gone? This, the AMR PRO thing, last Rapide and numerous other specials, it's gopping. The awkward vent after the front wheels is now even more prominent and the back end could be from any manufacturers new model to be honest - Ok, but nothing that says AM other than the seemingly necessary badge.
I hope AM announce when the 'beautiful' car of their 7 year plan will be launched so I know when to build my expectations up without disappointment. I really want them to succeed, but they haven't released anything in the last few years that makes me want to upgrade either now or the near future. The fact the 812SF has a long waiting list is probably a good thing for Aston, it's the first time since the mid 90's that a Ferrari is more beautiful than the equivalent Aston IMO.
This new fad for putting a large grille and black wheels on AM's is ridiculous, where's the elegance and beauty gone? This, the AMR PRO thing, last Rapide and numerous other specials, it's gopping. The awkward vent after the front wheels is now even more prominent and the back end could be from any manufacturers new model to be honest - Ok, but nothing that says AM other than the seemingly necessary badge.
I hope AM announce when the 'beautiful' car of their 7 year plan will be launched so I know when to build my expectations up without disappointment. I really want them to succeed, but they haven't released anything in the last few years that makes me want to upgrade either now or the near future. The fact the 812SF has a long waiting list is probably a good thing for Aston, it's the first time since the mid 90's that a Ferrari is more beautiful than the equivalent Aston IMO.
Maff said:
NFC 85 Vette said:
It'll be a wake up call for Ferrari, and I cant remember the last time that happened; it's another triumph for the marque - even if some don't like the grille, or the rear.
This won’t worry ferrari at all. Their 812 has an engine with 800hp and no turbo’s, and is sold out for its entire production run. jonby said:
We are back to Virage all over again
DB11 V8, one assumes they won't be able to resist a DB11 V8 S or AMR, the already defunct DB11 V12, DB11 V12 AMR, DB11 V12 AMR Signature pack, DBS Superleggera and people are already speculating about a DBS AMR, all with a similar function, looks, interior, etc and relatively small price jumps.
DB11 V8, one assumes they won't be able to resist a DB11 V8 S or AMR, the already defunct DB11 V12, DB11 V12 AMR, DB11 V12 AMR Signature pack, DBS Superleggera and people are already speculating about a DBS AMR, all with a similar function, looks, interior, etc and relatively small price jumps.
Not sure of exact figures, but I think the power increase from DB11 is (perhaps not usable on the road), but certainly significant.
As you have discussed before Jonby, we can probably already visualise the DBSS AMR.
20 more bhp, a stripe, extra carbon fibre and some alcatara. Oh and more downforce.
I know that it is bad form to be cynical, but unfortunately most here, including some of the AMR purchasers, now seem to have the opinion that AMR has become a 'GXL' muddle. Lacking coherence.
superlightr said:
Ahhh - the most iconic shape of the grill has been lost,
They want to confuse you - the only road cars with the 'AMR signature grille' are......not AMRs (V600 & DBS) whilst DB11 AMR has.....a traditional Aston grilleAt least you know it's an Aston Martin - thank heavens they have put it in giant letters across the back.
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