Aston V12V manual

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Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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vpr said:
I find the V12v an absolute giggle compared the the DBS, just feelsbup on it’s toes and nimble
Agreed. That's why I chose it. It's almost as practical and much more fun.

cayman-black

12,649 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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I think most of us would have looked at both DBS and V12V when buying.
I love both but as above the V12V imo is the better drive.

911flyboy

3 posts

67 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Yep agreed but it was the falling price of the V12V that put me off. That and the fact I couldn’t find one that didn’t have knackered / semi knackered brakes. My DBS came with a brand new set of front discs and pads included. I’m also addicted to the noise of my BR’d V8V which is truly epic and transforms the car. If I had the cash I would buy a V12V too as they do look very appealing now price wise. Especially when you compare them to other manufacturers.

cayman-black

12,649 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Fully agree as the DBS has risen in price far more than the V12V, which must be one of motoring best value cars!!!!!

911flyboy

3 posts

67 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Which makes a V12V bang for buck a lot of car for the money. Great buy if you can find a good one!

cayman-black

12,649 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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I think two for sale right now should be good cars, one at Leeds 4k miles and the one at Brentwood 3k miles.

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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cayman-black said:
I think two for sale right now should be good cars, one at Leeds 4k miles and the one at Brentwood 3k miles.
Genuine question, Paul.

Brakes aside what makes these "good" cars?

mafisher

87 posts

119 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Hi Nick, all you need to know how good they are is to drive one.
The torque makes the performance so accessible and the steering and brakes are awesome. I have used my previous V12V on track with no adverse effects on the brakes, although I have limited the number of consecutive laps I have done to limit the heat build up, just use some mechanical sympathy. Drive one and you’ll appreciate just how special they are.

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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mafisher said:
Hi Nick, all you need to know how good they are is to drive one.
The torque makes the performance so accessible and the steering and brakes are awesome. I have used my previous V12V on track with no adverse effects on the brakes, although I have limited the number of consecutive laps I have done to limit the heat build up, just use some mechanical sympathy. Drive one and you’ll appreciate just how special they are.
Missed my point completely. I know exactly how good they are. And I have no shortage of torque wink

My point is why Paul thinks the ridiculously low mileage examples might be classed as "good" ones?

cayman-black

12,649 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Hi Nick. The reason i mentioned those two is that 911flyboy said if he could find good ones with no brake problems, so i presume with such low miles and top price range the cars should be perfect. (Presume)!
I do see your point though and there is no reason a well looked after car with far more miles could be found.

Also, i remember when looking myself the amount of these that were badly prepped and had paint nearly everywhere was shocking for main dealer cars.


AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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cayman-black said:
Hi Nick. The reason i mentioned those two is that 911flyboy said if he could find good ones with no brake problems, so i presume with such low miles and top price range the cars should be perfect. (Presume)!
I do see your point though and there is no reason a well looked after car with far more miles could be found.

Also, i remember when looking myself the amount of these that were badly prepped and had paint nearly everywhere was shocking for main dealer cars.
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I have a client that has a V8V that is 2008 and done under 2,000 miles. It has cost him substantially more that a set of CCM's to keep it roadworthy. Granted it doesn't visit a workshop on an annual basis.

cayman-black

12,649 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Yes its strange, for me i would never buy a higher mileage car and never have, always believed a low miles car is better, saying that i also have never had any problems whatsoever with my way of thinking.
So if i was looking those two mentioned would be my first visits.

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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cayman-black said:
Yes its strange, for me i would never buy a higher mileage car and never have, always believed a low miles car is better, saying that i also have never had any problems whatsoever with my way of thinking.
So if i was looking those two mentioned would be my first visits.
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vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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AMVSVNick said:
cayman-black said:
I think two for sale right now should be good cars, one at Leeds 4k miles and the one at Brentwood 3k miles.
Genuine question, Paul.

Brakes aside what makes these "good" cars?
To me this is obvious.

Low miles means nearer to new.

jonby

5,357 posts

158 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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There is a school of thought that a car which has done just a couple of thousand miles in 3-5 yrs will suffer problems from a variety of reasons, potentially including lots of short drives without the car being brought up to temp and very few long journeys, spent lots of time stood without being used which does it no good, hasnt been driven enough to spot the problems that can be sorted under warranty, has tyres with flatspots, etc, etc, etc

With high end cars in general, the high prices charged for low mileage cars seem often to be connected to new owners who also want to put low/no miles on and retain investment value. But if you are about to put serious miles on yourself, whilst there is of course a benefit to starting from a lower mileage so that after you put your miles on the mileage is kept relatively low, it would appear many owners can't justify driving those types of cars after they buy them because the reason they pay a premium price in the first place dissappears


On CCMs specifically, by & large, it's not the mileage that seems to kill them. Anecdotally, the majority of Astons with CCMs seem to have no issues with disc replacement. Those that do need new discs seem (again anecdotally) to be primarily as a result of poor choice of wheel cleaner which can happen at any miles, or some very hard, most likely track driving, again not necessarily with big miles involved


12pack

1,546 posts

169 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Indeed. And that is why a V12V with 19,282 miles is the most valuable. Juuust right. I think I'll keep it anyway.

AMVSVNick

6,997 posts

163 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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vpr said:
AMVSVNick said:
cayman-black said:
I think two for sale right now should be good cars, one at Leeds 4k miles and the one at Brentwood 3k miles.
Genuine question, Paul.

Brakes aside what makes these "good" cars?
To me this is obvious.

Low miles means nearer to new.
As I said above my client has spent in excess of £20k to keep his roadworthy. Its amazing what starts to dry up/perish when they are left standing.

All I'm saying is 10 year old cars with uber low miles may not be what they seem.

vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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I’ve never had an issue with seriously low mileage cars maybe as most were German. 81 450SLwith 4K and an 89 500SL also with 4K to name a couple.

I have a 2010 DBS With 2k with no issues but maybe because it’s not used. wink

V8V Pete

2,497 posts

127 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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AMVSVNick said:
I have a client that has a V8V that is 2008 and done under 2,000 miles. It has cost him substantially more that a set of CCM's to keep it roadworthy. Granted it doesn't visit a workshop on an annual basis.
AMVSVNick said:
As I said above my client has spent in excess of £20k to keep his roadworthy. Its amazing what starts to dry up/perish when they are left standing.

All I'm saying is 10 year old cars with uber low miles may not be what they seem.
But what I don't understand is why does he own it if he's not going to drive it? Just get a high quality picture of one and stick it on the garage wall instead. Or better still, here's a business opportunity - develop a holographic projector that people can install in their garages so it really feels like they own the car. And they can still fill their garage with all the other st they never use. Win win smile

RobDown

3,803 posts

129 months

Saturday 3rd November 2018
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I would go one step further Pete. Surely AML are missing a trick here? They should be making car shells (without the mechanicals), maybe fitted with a loudspeaker to make the engine noise

They could sell them for a fraction of the price of a real car for those who want one to sit in the garage but not drive it ?? biggrin

Edited by RobDown on Saturday 3rd November 10:48