Discussion
avinalarf said:
Ugly Ugly Ugly fecker.
If it wasn't a Roller it wouldn't get a look in.
Same goes for the RR saloons .......ugly lumps.
It's funny, I've never liked Rollers. I grew up in Hanwell where there was a dealership knocking out cheap Rollers, it's still there. I am sure that riding inside one is marvelous but they are just not for me. If it wasn't a Roller it wouldn't get a look in.
Same goes for the RR saloons .......ugly lumps.
Jon39 said:
We are so used to car reviewers singing the praises of the vehicles they test, that it now comes as a surprise whenever a journalist is critical. Do you think being given a free car for a week, could possibly influence their appraisals?
) Just my 2p Jon39 said:
I think I am correct in saying, that when you pay (from) £276,000, your new Cullinan SUV, it will have (whisper it) a BMW N74 engine.
Don't worry though, because it will be unique to Rolls-Royce. BMW are discontinuing that engine from their 7 Series models.
As you've asked......I'm not a lover of the aesthetics of the Bentley SUV , albeit it's marginally better than the Cullinan.
As you've raised the topic of Bentley, thankfully the latest range ain't too bad looking.
At least they're going in the right direction, unlike your Rollers , ugly barstewards.
Jon39 said:
I think I am correct in saying, that when you pay (from) £276,000, your new Cullinan SUV, it will have (whisper it) a BMW N74 engine.
Don't worry though, because it will be unique to Rolls-Royce. BMW are discontinuing that engine from their 7 Series models.
I find the Cullinan and Bentayga abominations.
But there's a market for in-your face bling apparently, I hope Aston doesn't follow that route.
RichB said:
It's funny, I've never liked Rollers. I grew up in Hanwell where there was a dealership knocking out cheap Rollers, it's still there. I am sure that riding inside one is marvelous but they are just not for me.
I paid that dealer in Hanwell a visit a few years ago to look over his " so called " immaculate stock. JOKER. I did not stay there long.CSK1 said:
And the DBX will most likely use a twin-turbo Merc engine.
I find the Cullinan and Bentayga abominations.
But there's a market for in-your face bling apparently, I hope Aston doesn't follow that route.
I agree with the Cullinan and Bentayga abominations, but that is the market. If it helps Aston make more money and bring jobs to UK plc, I am in favour. AML have an opportunity to introduce something beautiful and stylish to this sector, I hope they succeed I find the Cullinan and Bentayga abominations.
But there's a market for in-your face bling apparently, I hope Aston doesn't follow that route.
What a tease. Someone will actually know the answer, was it 2015 when AML first mentioned an SUV? I know in 2016 it was given the DBX badge, then at some point, pray remind me, we saw a 2 door version. Jon, you'll know this stuff. All I do know is that for the last 5-6 years AML have exploited our passionate curiosity to such an extent I feel they may be guilty of creating a mass marketing coup, my goodness me, whatever next AP. 
I accept the delay is somewhat attributable to the St Athan factory but hey-ho, just another 6 months before we see one for real, oh, and then another 6 months before they start to build them for customers. I make that roughly a 7 year incubation period, got to be some sort of record, no?
I accept the delay is somewhat attributable to the St Athan factory but hey-ho, just another 6 months before we see one for real, oh, and then another 6 months before they start to build them for customers. I make that roughly a 7 year incubation period, got to be some sort of record, no?
Edited by MO55 on Monday 4th March 16:57
Just looking at the picture of the camo`d DBX on the "James Bond's next Aston Martin - shush" thread, and I`m just wondering... yeah I know.
Is the SUV/4x4 primarily a fashion statement these days? Are people buying them for their purported safety over a normal sized car? The reason I ask is if I look at the the rear proportions of the DBX it looks to have a relatively small load space. This is typical of this class of vehicle it seems, big and fearsome, but not as practical as a Skoda Octavia Estate. Why are people buying them exactly?
Personally I have very little real use for off road capabilities these days, (previously had a Discovery, and Mitsubishi Pajero & Challenger, but all in NZ where they got used as intended) but it`s nice to have if need be, and living in a country where snow is prevalent, I want all wheel drive. I also want to be able to put a s
t-ton of stuff in the back if I want, and this want happens often. I had a very good and voluminous Audi S6 and replaced it with an A6 Allroad 6 months ago.
For me this car is the most sensible vehicle of all, spacious for five, loads of luggage space and cavernous with the seats down, adjustable air suspension for harsh terrain and the 3.0 bi-turbo is prodigious.
I looked at the Range Rover Sport, (and I know plenty on here will have Rangies) which I`ve always liked, but they have less load space than the Audi, are so much bigger and don`t handle as well. I see things like the BMW X6 and think what`s the point? I have no idea of their load capacity but it looks small. They seem to be big just for the sake of it.
With this in mind, is the DBX going to be just for shopping and trout fishing? Do people care?
While I`m on my soap box, it also seems weird that no manufacturer of electric vehicles is making an estate. The estate is a very popular type of family and company car and getting around in one is much easier than in a chunky 4x4, especially in small European cities. I will probably always want something like this in my garage, and in a few years when I am looking to replace the Allroad, if there are no decent sized electric options I`ll probably continue to use fossil fuels.
Is the SUV/4x4 primarily a fashion statement these days? Are people buying them for their purported safety over a normal sized car? The reason I ask is if I look at the the rear proportions of the DBX it looks to have a relatively small load space. This is typical of this class of vehicle it seems, big and fearsome, but not as practical as a Skoda Octavia Estate. Why are people buying them exactly?
Personally I have very little real use for off road capabilities these days, (previously had a Discovery, and Mitsubishi Pajero & Challenger, but all in NZ where they got used as intended) but it`s nice to have if need be, and living in a country where snow is prevalent, I want all wheel drive. I also want to be able to put a s
t-ton of stuff in the back if I want, and this want happens often. I had a very good and voluminous Audi S6 and replaced it with an A6 Allroad 6 months ago. For me this car is the most sensible vehicle of all, spacious for five, loads of luggage space and cavernous with the seats down, adjustable air suspension for harsh terrain and the 3.0 bi-turbo is prodigious.
I looked at the Range Rover Sport, (and I know plenty on here will have Rangies) which I`ve always liked, but they have less load space than the Audi, are so much bigger and don`t handle as well. I see things like the BMW X6 and think what`s the point? I have no idea of their load capacity but it looks small. They seem to be big just for the sake of it.
With this in mind, is the DBX going to be just for shopping and trout fishing? Do people care?
While I`m on my soap box, it also seems weird that no manufacturer of electric vehicles is making an estate. The estate is a very popular type of family and company car and getting around in one is much easier than in a chunky 4x4, especially in small European cities. I will probably always want something like this in my garage, and in a few years when I am looking to replace the Allroad, if there are no decent sized electric options I`ll probably continue to use fossil fuels.
Mr.Tremlini said:
Is the SUV/4x4 primarily a fashion statement these days?
Almost certainly, yes.That said I adore my Disco 4 for what it is, an amazing "tool" for lugging three kids and all the paraphernalia down to Cornwall and back at holiday times. Disco 5 is not my cup of tea so D4 will stay until LR will no longer warrant it.
I also love the fact that when on motorways being sat higher up gives me the ability to see what the "holiday idiots" are up to in plenty of time.
Mr.Tremlini said:
While I`m on my soap box, it also seems weird that no manufacturer of electric vehicles is making an estate. The estate is a very popular type of family and company car and getting around in one is much easier than in a chunky 4x4, especially in small European cities. I will probably always want something like this in my garage, and in a few years when I am looking to replace the Allroad, if there are no decent sized electric options I`ll probably continue to use fossil fuels.
Sadly all manufacturers seem to care about these days are SUVs. Tiny, small, medium, large, huge, SUV coupes, you name it they're making them which is why the first ones from Audi, Merc, Jag etc have been SUVs.VW are going a different route with their iD hatchback, but there are no EV estates on the horizon for at least 5yrs from what i've seen. It's a real shame.
AMVSVNick said:
That said I adore my Disco 4 for what it is, an amazing "tool" for lugging three kids and all the paraphernalia down to Cornwall and back at holiday times. Disco 5 is not my cup of tea so D4 will stay until LR will no longer warrant it.
I also love the fact that when on motorways being sat higher up gives me the ability to see what the "holiday idiots" are up to in plenty of time.
I loved my Disco, and if I had a serious need for off-roading that would probably be my choice. Clad in Pirelli Scorpions the thing went pretty much everywhere I wanted, and super-roomy inside - much more so than anything else Land Rover produce. Plus, there are not just holiday idiots, idiots don`t have a season, unfortunately...I also love the fact that when on motorways being sat higher up gives me the ability to see what the "holiday idiots" are up to in plenty of time.
AMVSVNick said:
I also love the fact that when on motorways being sat higher up gives me the ability to see what the "holiday idiots" are up to in plenty of time.
How will you see over the vehicle ahead, when every car becomes a tall SUV?
May not be too long.
I love the Audi Q Russian doll SUV range. Q5 drivers used to be 'top dogs' and could look down on Q1 and Q3 drivers, but now I think they have to look up to Q7, Q8 and Q9 drivers, unless they buy again. Very clever marketing.
Jon39 said:
AMVSVNick said:
I also love the fact that when on motorways being sat higher up gives me the ability to see what the "holiday idiots" are up to in plenty of time.
How will you see over the vehicle ahead, when every car becomes a tall SUV?
May not be too long.
I love the Audi Q Russian doll SUV range. Q5 drivers used to be 'top dogs' and could look down on Q1 and Q3 drivers, but now I think they have to look up to Q7, Q8 and Q9 drivers, unless they buy again. Very clever marketing.
I suspect most owners jet off to far flung exotic places rather than slum it in Cornwall
Disco 4 is nearly as low as whale s
t in the LR pecking order so I'm used to looking up 
Beefmeister said:
Mr.Tremlini said:
While I`m on my soap box, it also seems weird that no manufacturer of electric vehicles is making an estate. The estate is a very popular type of family and company car and getting around in one is much easier than in a chunky 4x4, especially in small European cities. I will probably always want something like this in my garage, and in a few years when I am looking to replace the Allroad, if there are no decent sized electric options I`ll probably continue to use fossil fuels.
Sadly all manufacturers seem to care about these days are SUVs. Tiny, small, medium, large, huge, SUV coupes, you name it they're making them which is why the first ones from Audi, Merc, Jag etc have been SUVs.VW are going a different route with their iD hatchback, but there are no EV estates on the horizon for at least 5yrs from what i've seen. It's a real shame.
yours
A Disco 5 owner (I know its not as nice as a Disco 4, but our Disco 4 was starting to rattle a bit too much!)
The analysts were taken to see St Athan and the DBX this week.
Bloomberg write up is quite gushing (unusual for them with AML) saying that the DBX looks much better without the Camo and “with stylish looks that we predict should go a long way to convincing skeptical investors that the company is on track to double sales”
Bloomberg write up is quite gushing (unusual for them with AML) saying that the DBX looks much better without the Camo and “with stylish looks that we predict should go a long way to convincing skeptical investors that the company is on track to double sales”
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