Aston V12 Values

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nickv8

1,348 posts

84 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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ReformedPistonhead said:
If I were him I would have a chat with Aston Works, they have access to a broader range of clientele and would likely move this along for him. Given who they are they can also command a better price for things.

All the points made on here about it being for sale for so long will absolutely impact any potential buyers and I would guess the Venn diagram of PistonHeads forum browsers and collecting cars bidders shows quite a lot of intersection. But even taking it off for 6-months won't really help given the unicorn spec of the thing and rather marmite colour.

It is just sad that in the meantime this thing has only done 3,000 miles. Eye-watering cost/mile I guess but these cars fortunately are also about just looking at!

I think this will end up shifting quickly for £110k-£115k or taking 6-months more or so to find a loving home at £120-£125k.
Seriously - how much would a full respray be at AM Works? The mechanical spec is still top-notch.

Edited by nickv8 on Friday 30th October 14:22

Jon39

12,850 posts

144 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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nickv8 said:
Seriously - how much would a full respray be at AM Works? The mechanical spec is still top-notch.

Certainly one way to increase the number of potential buyers, Nick.

I can see a snag though. Unless the body is completely stripped (gosh the cost), you would always still see sections of the original matt purple paint in places.


nickv8

1,348 posts

84 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Jon39 said:

Certainly one way to increase the number of potential buyers, Nick.

I can see a snag though. Unless the body is completely stripped (gosh the cost), you would always still see sections of the original matt purple paint in places.
True Jon - if you knew why and where to look. But if done properly by AM, it's probably cheaper than getting a few of those choice additions to a lesser-spec'd V12VS.

All hypothetical and I'm not trying to insult the seller or potential buyer. I'm sure if I'd spec'd one of these from new, it would have a 1% acceptance in the market. But who cares - these are very personal things for the buyer and I salute they were brave in their decision.

ReformedPistonhead

965 posts

138 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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Jon39 said:
nickv8 said:
Seriously - how much would a full respray be at AM Works? The mechanical spec is still top-notch.

Certainly one way to increase the number of potential buyers, Nick.

I can see a snag though. Unless the body is completely stripped (gosh the cost), you would always still see sections of the original matt purple paint in places.
At AMW it would be done to a better standard than when it left the factory, but I suspect the cost would be prohibitive (I guess £30k-£40k but that's only a guess, a backstreet blow-over would not suffice here!)

Better for re-sale may be to retrim the seats in grey/black, it was the interior that grated with me, the exterior I actually quite liked.


nickv8

1,348 posts

84 months

Friday 30th October 2020
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ReformedPistonhead said:
At AMW it would be done to a better standard than when it left the factory, but I suspect the cost would be prohibitive (I guess £30k-£40k but that's only a guess, a backstreet blow-over would not suffice here!)

Better for re-sale may be to retrim the seats in grey/black, it was the interior that grated with me, the exterior I actually quite liked.
Yeah... I was wondering that. But then I wondered if the interior would be OK with a different paint colour. I like the light material. And this is where we reach the bounds of what's personal taste.

VULCANT

161 posts

89 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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Thanks for all the opinions/comments. Off to the shop to buy some paint...

cayman-black

12,660 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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VULCANT said:
Thanks for all the opinions/comments. Off to the shop to buy some paint...
Lol, VUL i would keep it its gorgeous if i didn't own my V12V i would be making you a good offer.

CitySlicker

302 posts

94 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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cayman-black said:
Lol, VUL i would keep it its gorgeous if i didn't own my V12V i would be making you a good offer.
It’s a great car just particular so it takes longer to sell. I may be wrong but it looks like the v12v’s following has increased with fewer cars advertised than before despite the current economic conditions.

You can buy a whole host of different supercars at that price point and perhaps some will view the previous century vantage as old tech , but what do they know... This vantage hits the senses in a way very few modern cars can. If I was in the market for a v12 in the UK this would be at the top of the pile.

Good luck with the sale!


ReformedPistonhead

965 posts

138 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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VULCANT said:
Thanks for all the opinions/comments. Off to the shop to buy some paint...
It is horrible reading comments about a car you want to sell, happened to me on here and every one hurt.

I guess you know if you can afford to / are able to keep this for a year or two you will realise a greater price, I think it is a bad time to sell anything right now.

And I wouldn't spend a cent on changing anything even if you do decide you want to sell now.

Part of me is tempted to sell mine and buy yours ;-)

AdamV12AMR

1,380 posts

157 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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VULCANT said:
Thanks for all the opinions/comments.
Adam, I'd say you've dealt with all of the above with humour and good grace, both on here and on various FB pages relating to your car thumbup

Harris_I

3,228 posts

260 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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I've been watching the V12 market for a while now and noticed AM Works have listed a 2011 with 47k miles for just under £60k.

Mileage is not a problem for me (I actually prefer cars that have been used and well maintained as daily drivers), but I'm struggling to work out a rule of thumb for price adjustment due to mileage. There's a private sale 2011 model with 38k on the clock listed at £63k. Anyone have any insight into values actually being achieved at the moment?

A few months back McGurk's listed a couple of cars in the high 50s with ballpark similar mileage IIRC. As I say, struggling to get my head around this.

cornershop

2,136 posts

197 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Don’t think there is any equation you can apply.

There was a private 53k mile example late last year at £54k - that has disappeared but it took a few months. Had carbon lightweights which seem very desirable and some left over AM warranty.

Im not worried about mileage so will drive as I choose. My cars are always well looked after with invoices to evidence any work, which is what I’d personally go with.

Mine was £65k from HWM in Feb 2020 - 2 PO, 20k miles, carbon seats.

Harris_I

3,228 posts

260 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Thanks, that's useful info. Yes, I spotted that higher mileage private sale last year.

cornershop

2,136 posts

197 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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leemanning

557 posts

153 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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From memory there was a cheap car at McGurk's but it had 8 owners, which is what put me off. It sold, but that would have been another reason along with mileage for the lower price

kev1966900

153 posts

80 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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I seem to recall there being a post on here regarding the Edinburgh car. Don't remember all the details but previous owner didn't keep it long

cayman-black

12,660 posts

217 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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cornershop said:
That looks beautiful.

Brave Fart

5,750 posts

112 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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Harris_I said:
I've been watching the V12 market for a while now and noticed AM Works have listed a 2011 with 47k miles for just under £60k.

Mileage is not a problem for me (I actually prefer cars that have been used and well maintained as daily drivers), but I'm struggling to work out a rule of thumb for price adjustment due to mileage. There's a private sale 2011 model with 38k on the clock listed at £63k. Anyone have any insight into values actually being achieved at the moment?

A few months back McGurk's listed a couple of cars in the high 50s with ballpark similar mileage IIRC. As I say, struggling to get my head around this.
I've been looking at these cars too. I've seen very low mileage examples with 12k miles priced at £80k, and then a 47k miles car for £60k, as you have highlighted. And yet, people tell me these are reliable cars with engines that can go on for ever?
So do you spend £80k on a low mileage car but then are too scared to put miles on it, for fear of destroying its value?
Or do you spend £60k on one with 47k miles but then it is difficult to re-sell should you wish to move it on?

vpr

3,711 posts

239 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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I always plump for low mileage.

Mileage is king as far as I’m concerned, always has been.

With high mileage It’s not just a case of FSH and looking after it etc etc because as we know, these things corrode and don’t wear particularly well as far as I can see.


Harris_I

3,228 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th January 2021
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How do they not wear well? (Genuine question, I'm not disagreeing).

I only have experience of the GT4 race car several years ago which is essentially just a stripped out V8 and it changed my mistaken preconception of fragility (having been a dyed-in-the-wool Porsche and BMW fan). I've also read the V12 has a strong engine. I've not head of corrosion issues before.