So what have you done with your Aston today? (Vol. 2)

[CAPP0]

brianabbot said:

Anyway just thought I'd share and if anyone is looking for a bodyshop in the south east just message me as Im really pleased with the results.

Hi Brian, car looks great! I'm also in Kent. Your profile doesn't allow PMs, would you mind dropping me a message pls?

[ST12AT]

DB4DM said:

Started the car for the first time since November, put in some fresh petrol and did the tyres, then spent 3 hours driving around at random

Also for sale I see....

[DB4DM]

There are 3 for sale currently but not this one!

[morty1961]

This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?

Recommissioning after Storage
Starting the engine without sufficient lubrication can cause serious engine damage. Make sure the engine oil pressure is established before allowing the engine to start.
7. Obtain engine oil pressure
7.1. Press and hold the accelerator pedal hard to the floor (this temporarily stops fuel injection during cranking)
7.2. Fully press the brake (SportShift II transmission) or clutch (manual transmission) pedal down. Insert the vehicle key into the ignition control and move through to engine start. Allow the engine to crank until the oil pressure symbol in the instrument cluster goes OFF (showing oil pressure in the engine)
7.3. Set the ignition to OFF. Release the key and accelerator pedal
8. Start the engine normally and check that the oil pressure and ignition warning symbols go OFF as the engine starts (correct oil pressure and battery charging)

[sticks090460]

Paid for it, taxed it, insured it and then driven it home from the dealership.

[Big Ry]

sticks090460 said:

Paid for it, taxed it, insured it and then driven it home from the dealership.

Pics or it didn't happen

[Minglar]

morty1961 said:

This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?

Recommissioning after Storage
Starting the engine without sufficient lubrication can cause serious engine damage. Make sure the engine oil pressure is established before allowing the engine to start.
7. Obtain engine oil pressure
7.1. Press and hold the accelerator pedal hard to the floor (this temporarily stops fuel injection during cranking)
7.2. Fully press the brake (SportShift II transmission) or clutch (manual transmission) pedal down. Insert the vehicle key into the ignition control and move through to engine start. Allow the engine to crank until the oil pressure symbol in the instrument cluster goes OFF (showing oil pressure in the engine)
7.3. Set the ignition to OFF. Release the key and accelerator pedal
8. Start the engine normally and check that the oil pressure and ignition warning symbols go OFF as the engine starts (correct oil pressure and battery charging)

I may be wrong but I thought that only applied to the V8 engine? I don’t think there is any mention of that procedure in the manual as a requirement before starting a V12. They are different engines and I think (happy to be corrected) that the V8 is dry sumped, which is perhaps the reason for the procedure you mention. Personally, I’d be wary of doing the same with a V12. I’m sure someone on here with more technical nous than me will know for sure though.

Best Regards

Minglar

[Jon39]

morty1961 said:

This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?

Very wise to be careful. With accelerator held fully down, don't want an engine start.
Think it depends on the make of ignition system.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpEupXmh5Y

[Minglar]

Jon39 said:

morty1961 said:

This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?

Very wise to be careful. With accelerator held fully down, don't want an engine start.
Think it depends on the make of ignition system.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rSpEupXmh5Y

Thanks for the video link Jon. As the saying goes, every day is a school day!

Best Regards

Minglar

[MarkM3Evoplus]

Minglar said:

morty1961 said:

This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?

Recommissioning after Storage
Starting the engine without sufficient lubrication can cause serious engine damage. Make sure the engine oil pressure is established before allowing the engine to start.
7. Obtain engine oil pressure
7.1. Press and hold the accelerator pedal hard to the floor (this temporarily stops fuel injection during cranking)
7.2. Fully press the brake (SportShift II transmission) or clutch (manual transmission) pedal down. Insert the vehicle key into the ignition control and move through to engine start. Allow the engine to crank until the oil pressure symbol in the instrument cluster goes OFF (showing oil pressure in the engine)
7.3. Set the ignition to OFF. Release the key and accelerator pedal
8. Start the engine normally and check that the oil pressure and ignition warning symbols go OFF as the engine starts (correct oil pressure and battery charging)

I may be wrong but I thought that only applied to the V8 engine? I don’t think there is any mention of that procedure in the manual as a requirement before starting a V12. They are different engines and I think (happy to be corrected) that the V8 is dry sumped, which is perhaps the reason for the procedure you mention. Personally, I’d be wary of doing the same with a V12. I’m sure someone on here with more technical nous than me will know for sure though.

Best Regards

Minglar

Works as described on my 2002 V12 Vanquish, so assume it will be the same for a V12 Vantage (non S) with the PTEC engine Management. I understand the above method doesn't work on the later Bosch Engine Management V12 engines.

Cheers,

Mark

[ds666]

You’d think the engine management system would just “stop the sparks “ until pressure was built up . And then light the fuel . Strange it lets the driver decide .

[ds666]

Took the Vantage to Shelsey Walsh breakfast club on Sunday

[cayman-black]

morty1961 said:

This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?

Recommissioning after Storage
Starting the engine without sufficient lubrication can cause serious engine damage. Make sure the engine oil pressure is established before allowing the engine to start.
7. Obtain engine oil pressure
7.1. Press and hold the accelerator pedal hard to the floor (this temporarily stops fuel injection during cranking)
7.2. Fully press the brake (SportShift II transmission) or clutch (manual transmission) pedal down. Insert the vehicle key into the ignition control and move through to engine start. Allow the engine to crank until the oil pressure symbol in the instrument cluster goes OFF (showing oil pressure in the engine)
7.3. Set the ignition to OFF. Release the key and accelerator pedal
8. Start the engine normally and check that the oil pressure and ignition warning symbols go OFF as the engine starts (correct oil pressure and battery charging)

This is what i do and yes it does work. Also, there is a BR video describing how to do this. Just to add it's also in the handbook.

[Minglar]

cayman-black said:

morty1961 said:

This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?

Recommissioning after Storage
Starting the engine without sufficient lubrication can cause serious engine damage. Make sure the engine oil pressure is established before allowing the engine to start.
7. Obtain engine oil pressure
7.1. Press and hold the accelerator pedal hard to the floor (this temporarily stops fuel injection during cranking)
7.2. Fully press the brake (SportShift II transmission) or clutch (manual transmission) pedal down. Insert the vehicle key into the ignition control and move through to engine start. Allow the engine to crank until the oil pressure symbol in the instrument cluster goes OFF (showing oil pressure in the engine)
7.3. Set the ignition to OFF. Release the key and accelerator pedal
8. Start the engine normally and check that the oil pressure and ignition warning symbols go OFF as the engine starts (correct oil pressure and battery charging)

This is what i do and yes it does work. Also, there is a BR video describing how to do this. Just to add it's also in the handbook.

Thanks CB. The link Jon posted was the BR video, and Mike does comment in there about this procedure not being in the manual. But you’re right! It is in there, right at the back, and I found it tonight after a proper read through. I rarely store my car for more than a month or so without using it, so I’m hoping I’m correct in saying that I probably don’t need to do this unless it’s been sitting unused for a much longer period (six months?) There has been a fair bit of rhetoric on here lately about negative attitudes and comments, but thanks to you both, I have learnt something today. So thank you CB and Jon. And to morty1961, ignore what I wrote earlier, as I clearly don’t know what I’m talking about!

Best Regards

Minglar

[Jon39]

ds666 said:

You’d think the engine management system would just “stop the sparks “ until pressure was built up . And then light the fuel . Strange it lets the driver decide .

I think I might know why that is a bad idea for the V12.
Unburnt fuel would pass through the engine and some would end up in the manifold mounted catalytic converter.
You know the rest of the story, although it might require an already hot cat for a proper disaster.

Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 20th April 20:44

[ds666]

Jon39 said:

ds666 said:

You’d think the engine management system would just “stop the sparks “ until pressure was built up . And then light the fuel . Strange it lets the driver decide .

I think I might know why that is a bad idea for the V12.
Unburnt fuel would pass through the engine and some would end up in the manifold mounted catalytic converter.
You know the rest of the story, although it might require an already hot cat for a proper disaster.

Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 20th April 20:44

If it cuts the fuel when you do the throttle to the floor sequence , you'd think ..... no I'll leave it there

[CAPP0]

On the subject of ignition/startup as above, can anyone advise on what the "bongs" when you switch the ignition on mean? I'm sure I read somewhere not to start the engine until the bongs stop, which I always do, but curious as to what the bongs mean and whether the number of bongs ever changes?

[sticks090460]

Big Ry said:

sticks090460 said:

Paid for it, taxed it, insured it and then driven it home from the dealership.

Pics or it didn't happen

[Aston Traveller]

sticks090460 said:

Big Ry said:

sticks090460 said:

Paid for it, taxed it, insured it and then driven it home from the dealership.

Pics or it didn't happen

Gorgeous

[AstonZagato]

sticks090460 said:

I love that angle on the Vantage