So what have you done with your Aston today? (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Minglar said:
Thanks CB. The link Jon posted was the BR video, and Mike does comment in there about this procedure not being in the manual. But you’re right! It is in there, right at the back, and I found it tonight after a proper read through. I rarely store my car for more than a month or so without using it, so I’m hoping I’m correct in saying that I probably don’t need to do this unless it’s been sitting unused for a much longer period (six months?) There has been a fair bit of rhetoric on here lately about negative attitudes and comments, but thanks to you both, I have learnt something today. So thank you CB and Jon. And to morty1961, ignore what I wrote earlier, as I clearly don’t know what I’m talking about!
Best Regards
Minglar
Minglar, IMO i would do this even if the car had been sitting for just a month. After i have had my oil changed i tell my mechanic to follow this procedure also.Best Regards
Minglar
MarkM3Evoplus said:
Minglar said:
morty1961 said:
This is what I will be doing with my V12V very soon. Can anyone confirm that the following procedure works with the early non-S V12V to get oil pressure and oil circulation round the engine without firing up (was taken from V8V thread)?
Recommissioning after Storage
Starting the engine without sufficient lubrication can cause serious engine damage. Make sure the engine oil pressure is established before allowing the engine to start.
7. Obtain engine oil pressure
7.1. Press and hold the accelerator pedal hard to the floor (this temporarily stops fuel injection during cranking)
7.2. Fully press the brake (SportShift II transmission) or clutch (manual transmission) pedal down. Insert the vehicle key into the ignition control and move through to engine start. Allow the engine to crank until the oil pressure symbol in the instrument cluster goes OFF (showing oil pressure in the engine)
7.3. Set the ignition to OFF. Release the key and accelerator pedal
8. Start the engine normally and check that the oil pressure and ignition warning symbols go OFF as the engine starts (correct oil pressure and battery charging)
I may be wrong but I thought that only applied to the V8 engine? I don’t think there is any mention of that procedure in the manual as a requirement before starting a V12. They are different engines and I think (happy to be corrected) that the V8 is dry sumped, which is perhaps the reason for the procedure you mention. Personally, I’d be wary of doing the same with a V12. I’m sure someone on here with more technical nous than me will know for sure though. Recommissioning after Storage
Starting the engine without sufficient lubrication can cause serious engine damage. Make sure the engine oil pressure is established before allowing the engine to start.
7. Obtain engine oil pressure
7.1. Press and hold the accelerator pedal hard to the floor (this temporarily stops fuel injection during cranking)
7.2. Fully press the brake (SportShift II transmission) or clutch (manual transmission) pedal down. Insert the vehicle key into the ignition control and move through to engine start. Allow the engine to crank until the oil pressure symbol in the instrument cluster goes OFF (showing oil pressure in the engine)
7.3. Set the ignition to OFF. Release the key and accelerator pedal
8. Start the engine normally and check that the oil pressure and ignition warning symbols go OFF as the engine starts (correct oil pressure and battery charging)
Best Regards
Minglar
Cheers,
Mark
Got the car back a couple of weeks ago but wanted to fully assess it before I updated as some requested. Here goes.
1. Exhaust decat and high flow secondaries.
This mod also came with a 3 way switch allowing quiet, loud and original. After hooning around in loud I felt like a boy racer which isn’t quite in keeping with my 64 years. Plus, it is LOUD so I tend to use the loud button more judiciously now. It’s nice to have the option though. The important thing is how it affects performance. Various commentators, including Mike at BR, reckon around a 35 Bhp uplift. The car certainly feel a little more urgent in the mid range and seems to rev in the higher range more easily but what should you expect from 7.5% more power? It’s got a bit more power and it’s a bit quicker but the main thing for me is that I have no worry about cat ingestion.
On the (slightly) negative side I notice 2 things. Mike has said in one of his videos that taking the main cats out leaves 2 empty cans in the manifolds. These cause a very slight ‘whoosh’, a bit like a turbo coming on boost. I noticed it for the first couple of days but rarely now. It’s not very noticeable and I don’t find it an issue for me. The second thing is that you need to like the smell of hydrocarbons in the morning. Taking the cats away obviously makes the car a little dirtier and you can smell it in the garage. I’m assured this won’t affect the MOT and again, it’s not a problem for me.
2. Under plates, rear anti roll bar and Bilsteins.
Refinement is the best way to describe the impact of these changes. The car feels a lot more refined, controlled and ‘grown up’. My first impression was that the car felt like it had rear wheel steering. The turn in is sharper, the rear end follows the curve more keenly, the bump thump of normal surface imperfections is less crashy and the car feels much more stable in cornering.just a much nicer, more refined and responsive ride.
So, the $64m question is ‘was it worth it’? Well before I went ahead I thought a few times about whether I should buy a newer car but that would cost a lot more that the upgrade cost. Also, if you've got a good car, buying another 2 or 3 years younger seems fraught with danger. Now I have a car which is nicely upgraded, fully sorted and a joy to drive. Yes, it was worth it and I’m glad I’ve done it.
Please ask if you have any questions.
J
1. Exhaust decat and high flow secondaries.
This mod also came with a 3 way switch allowing quiet, loud and original. After hooning around in loud I felt like a boy racer which isn’t quite in keeping with my 64 years. Plus, it is LOUD so I tend to use the loud button more judiciously now. It’s nice to have the option though. The important thing is how it affects performance. Various commentators, including Mike at BR, reckon around a 35 Bhp uplift. The car certainly feel a little more urgent in the mid range and seems to rev in the higher range more easily but what should you expect from 7.5% more power? It’s got a bit more power and it’s a bit quicker but the main thing for me is that I have no worry about cat ingestion.
On the (slightly) negative side I notice 2 things. Mike has said in one of his videos that taking the main cats out leaves 2 empty cans in the manifolds. These cause a very slight ‘whoosh’, a bit like a turbo coming on boost. I noticed it for the first couple of days but rarely now. It’s not very noticeable and I don’t find it an issue for me. The second thing is that you need to like the smell of hydrocarbons in the morning. Taking the cats away obviously makes the car a little dirtier and you can smell it in the garage. I’m assured this won’t affect the MOT and again, it’s not a problem for me.
2. Under plates, rear anti roll bar and Bilsteins.
Refinement is the best way to describe the impact of these changes. The car feels a lot more refined, controlled and ‘grown up’. My first impression was that the car felt like it had rear wheel steering. The turn in is sharper, the rear end follows the curve more keenly, the bump thump of normal surface imperfections is less crashy and the car feels much more stable in cornering.just a much nicer, more refined and responsive ride.
So, the $64m question is ‘was it worth it’? Well before I went ahead I thought a few times about whether I should buy a newer car but that would cost a lot more that the upgrade cost. Also, if you've got a good car, buying another 2 or 3 years younger seems fraught with danger. Now I have a car which is nicely upgraded, fully sorted and a joy to drive. Yes, it was worth it and I’m glad I’ve done it.
Please ask if you have any questions.
J
Jonathank56 said:
Jonathank56 said:
Got the car back a couple of weeks ago but wanted to fully assess it before I updated as some requested. Here goes.
1. Exhaust decat and high flow secondaries.
This mod also came with a 3 way switch allowing quiet, loud and original. After hooning around in loud I felt like a boy racer which isn’t quite in keeping with my 64 years. Plus, it is LOUD so I tend to use the loud button more judiciously now. It’s nice to have the option though. The important thing is how it affects performance. Various commentators, including Mike at BR, reckon around a 35 Bhp uplift. The car certainly feel a little more urgent in the mid range and seems to rev in the higher range more easily but what should you expect from 7.5% more power? It’s got a bit more power and it’s a bit quicker but the main thing for me is that I have no worry about cat ingestion.
On the (slightly) negative side I notice 2 things. Mike has said in one of his videos that taking the main cats out leaves 2 empty cans in the manifolds. These cause a very slight ‘whoosh’, a bit like a turbo coming on boost. I noticed it for the first couple of days but rarely now. It’s not very noticeable and I don’t find it an issue for me. The second thing is that you need to like the smell of hydrocarbons in the morning. Taking the cats away obviously makes the car a little dirtier and you can smell it in the garage. I’m assured this won’t affect the MOT and again, it’s not a problem for me.
2. Under plates, rear anti roll bar and Bilsteins.
Refinement is the best way to describe the impact of these changes. The car feels a lot more refined, controlled and ‘grown up’. My first impression was that the car felt like it had rear wheel steering. The turn in is sharper, the rear end follows the curve more keenly, the bump thump of normal surface imperfections is less crashy and the car feels much more stable in cornering.just a much nicer, more refined and responsive ride.
So, the $64m question is ‘was it worth it’? Well before I went ahead I thought a few times about whether I should buy a newer car but that would cost a lot more that the upgrade cost. Also, if you've got a good car, buying another 2 or 3 years younger seems fraught with danger. Now I have a car which is nicely upgraded, fully sorted and a joy to drive. Yes, it was worth it and I’m glad I’ve done it.
Please ask if you have any questions.
J
Maybe worth a thread on its own....1. Exhaust decat and high flow secondaries.
This mod also came with a 3 way switch allowing quiet, loud and original. After hooning around in loud I felt like a boy racer which isn’t quite in keeping with my 64 years. Plus, it is LOUD so I tend to use the loud button more judiciously now. It’s nice to have the option though. The important thing is how it affects performance. Various commentators, including Mike at BR, reckon around a 35 Bhp uplift. The car certainly feel a little more urgent in the mid range and seems to rev in the higher range more easily but what should you expect from 7.5% more power? It’s got a bit more power and it’s a bit quicker but the main thing for me is that I have no worry about cat ingestion.
On the (slightly) negative side I notice 2 things. Mike has said in one of his videos that taking the main cats out leaves 2 empty cans in the manifolds. These cause a very slight ‘whoosh’, a bit like a turbo coming on boost. I noticed it for the first couple of days but rarely now. It’s not very noticeable and I don’t find it an issue for me. The second thing is that you need to like the smell of hydrocarbons in the morning. Taking the cats away obviously makes the car a little dirtier and you can smell it in the garage. I’m assured this won’t affect the MOT and again, it’s not a problem for me.
2. Under plates, rear anti roll bar and Bilsteins.
Refinement is the best way to describe the impact of these changes. The car feels a lot more refined, controlled and ‘grown up’. My first impression was that the car felt like it had rear wheel steering. The turn in is sharper, the rear end follows the curve more keenly, the bump thump of normal surface imperfections is less crashy and the car feels much more stable in cornering.just a much nicer, more refined and responsive ride.
So, the $64m question is ‘was it worth it’? Well before I went ahead I thought a few times about whether I should buy a newer car but that would cost a lot more that the upgrade cost. Also, if you've got a good car, buying another 2 or 3 years younger seems fraught with danger. Now I have a car which is nicely upgraded, fully sorted and a joy to drive. Yes, it was worth it and I’m glad I’ve done it.
Please ask if you have any questions.
J
Just one question - I thought when BR did the lower cost primary decat using the existing manifold that they cut the empty cans out and welded in a small section of straight thru pipe?
AdamV12V said:
Maybe worth a thread on its own....
Just one question - I thought when BR did the lower cost primary decat using the existing manifold that they cut the empty cans out and welded in a small section of straight thru pipe?
That’s what I thought too, but I’ve heard Mike mention the above reference to the whoosh sound on a recent videoJust one question - I thought when BR did the lower cost primary decat using the existing manifold that they cut the empty cans out and welded in a small section of straight thru pipe?
Pretty sure I took this pic from the demised BR thread:
Took our DB11 for its first longish trip (240 miles) along the south coast to Hastings to visit family in their garden and to visit my wife’s aunt in hospital.
Pot holes around Hastings were truly awful but the car was brilliant, lovely place to spend the best part of 6 hours.
I also waited in the car in a quiet road whilst my wife spent an hour in the hospital and had my first experience of random strangers stopping and staring, wanting to chat about the car and even taking photos. One lovely guy, drove past twice before stopping and walking past, apologised for bothering me and said it had made his day as he had never seen one before.
Aunt is recovering well in case you wondered and I was pleasantly surprised that we averaged 25mpg despite my wife enjoying the acceleration on many occasions...
Pot holes around Hastings were truly awful but the car was brilliant, lovely place to spend the best part of 6 hours.
I also waited in the car in a quiet road whilst my wife spent an hour in the hospital and had my first experience of random strangers stopping and staring, wanting to chat about the car and even taking photos. One lovely guy, drove past twice before stopping and walking past, apologised for bothering me and said it had made his day as he had never seen one before.
Aunt is recovering well in case you wondered and I was pleasantly surprised that we averaged 25mpg despite my wife enjoying the acceleration on many occasions...
milu said:
ds666 said:
Shhhh !
No one admits to having had a Rover coupe
LolNo one admits to having had a Rover coupe
I really liked. Seemed quite special at the time. Must have got under my skin... had a 620ti later which was kept for years and high miles
If you wish, watch the BR video about supercharging (second edition I think) and you will learn who was involved in developing the supercharged Rover Tomcat engine.
milu said:
Lol
I really liked. Seemed quite special at the time. Must have got under my skin... had a 620ti later which was kept for years and high miles
I really wanted a 620ti but could not afford one, they were good looking cars in their day. I did manage to own a 820i for a while which I loved barging around in,until the air con stopped working and the mechanic said the fix was more than the car’s worth (scrap).I really liked. Seemed quite special at the time. Must have got under my skin... had a 620ti later which was kept for years and high miles
soofsayer said:
milu said:
Lol
I really liked. Seemed quite special at the time. Must have got under my skin... had a 620ti later which was kept for years and high miles
I really wanted a 620ti but could not afford one, they were good looking cars in their day. I did manage to own a 820i for a while which I loved barging around in,until the air con stopped working and the mechanic said the fix was more than the car’s worth (scrap).I really liked. Seemed quite special at the time. Must have got under my skin... had a 620ti later which was kept for years and high miles
soofsayer said:
I really wanted a 620ti but could not afford one, they were good looking cars in their day. I did manage to own a 820i for a while which I loved barging around in,until the air con stopped working and the mechanic said the fix was more than the car’s worth (scrap).
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