So what have you done with your Aston today? (Vol. 2)

So what have you done with your Aston today? (Vol. 2)

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Simonamvr

72 posts

23 months

Monday 3rd August
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Well, having just got back from a week and 1,500 miles in the North of Scotland I am off to Switzerland on Wednesday.

I was going to take my 6-month old Tesla Model S Performance (with free electricity so the fuel cost would be zero for a 2,500 mile trip) but it has helpfully decided that it's rear motor doesn't work anymore so it was trailered away on Friday.

Looks like I have to take the Aston. Main issue with that is a £0 fuel cost turns into a £1,000+ fuel cost! Plus the V12VSM will go from 6,500 miles two weeks ago to 8,000 miles today to 10,500 miles in a week's time. But given it will never be sold it doesn't really matter.
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Hi any issues , iI should be aware of taking the Aston on the NC500 in September, did you do the Applecross pass.

NFC 85 Vette

2,900 posts

193 months

Monday 3rd August
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It was the first proper weekend with the DB11 and some nice weather - so just under 300 miles of driving cross country, and a trip to and from the workshop for some race car updates.

Despite some fairly 'dynamic' driving in places, averaged 27.1mpg - it might not sound that interesting, but I love having a car I can tank up and put decent miles on between fuel stops. Tank range is between around 450-475 miles I'd have thought, if being driven sensibly. I'm told one of the design requirements was that it must do more than 400 miles on a tank, and compared to my Vanquish - that had a very optimistic range calculator that had a habit of displaying fake news laugh much of that is the gearbox - the 8 speed box is brilliant and in GT mode, once it's in 7th or 8th, just hums along quietly on a run, and you cant really tell it's only running on one cylinder bank, it's clever stuff.

Driving dynamics are a surprise, of the positive sort - fantastic chassis balance; it's the first time I've really given a DB11 the full potatoes, and it's much more agile and balanced than I thought. IMO, it's just a really well sorted, complete car. Quick enough on the road, comfy, exotic, and only receives positive comments from passers by.


Obligatory photo prior to her getting dusty and dirty smile

Graze01

717 posts

49 months

Monday 3rd August
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NFC

Great to hear some positive review of the dynamics of the DB11, great looking car too

Graze

nickv8

745 posts

40 months

Monday 3rd August
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Nice NFC! How does it compare to the Vanquish for you? Dynamics and when acting as the GT? What about ownership experience (the smile it gives you)? Comparable?

The V12 Way

787 posts

41 months

Monday 3rd August
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photos come through from Mike Kenefick of AM Bristol




Graze01

717 posts

49 months

Monday 3rd August
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That looks stunning Steve. Works so well on the white car

Graeme

NFC 85 Vette

2,900 posts

193 months

Monday 3rd August
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Graze01 said:
NFC

Great to hear some positive review of the dynamics of the DB11, great looking car too

Graze
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nickv8 said:
Nice NFC! How does it compare to the Vanquish for you? Dynamics and when acting as the GT? What about ownership experience (the smile it gives you)? Comparable?
In some aspects, they're very similar, and the DB11 feels like a progression and modernised take on the last gen cars. In others, it's a whole different thing. Excuse the waffle, here goes...

As a GT car, it's just like the Vanquish - but a little more civilised. I'll caveat that by saying that 6 speed Vanquish wasn't as complete as the later 8 speed, so things like the transmission are a step on, but anyone with a later Vanquish would attest that the 8 speed made a good difference to cruising ability. Damping wise, I'd say GT is harder than 'normal' damping in the Vanquish, it's just a bit stiffer in the respective softest damping modes. It's not harsh, but just firmer than the Vanquish. Cabin noise is similar, perhaps a touch quieter in the DB11 when in GT mode.

Brakes are difficult to quantify - they're not as good as the carbon discs on the Vanquish, but I wouldn't expect them to be (the carbon discs on the DBSS, the current equivalent - are as impressive for outright stopping power as you'd expect). The brake pedal feel is decent but somewhat digital compared to the Vanquish (you know how the older cars feel - they have a lovely analogue feel to the brake pedal, and stopping power feels directly proportionate to the braking effort applied. DB11 is a bit more notchy, for want of a better term. It's also noticeable under heavy braking that there's more mass to slow down - but only when you're really having to throw the anchors out biggrin

Handling - in Sport and Sport+, it's a different car. With the Vanquish, it always felt willing to be pushed a bit more, but only to a point. The surprise I found was that with the DB11, if you really start pressing on, it takes on a different character, and the dynamic ability of the chassis becomes more apparent. I'd kind of expected it to become unsettled like the Vanquish would, but instead it just hunkers down, the steering weights up and inspires the confidence to really have at it. It's not the boat of a thing it's portrayed to be when you see reviews of the V8 and AMR variant offering better handling - they are better, but the start point was pretty good for most road driving IMO.

While there's a lot of dislike of how the Mercedes based infotainment is integrated, I cannot fault how it works - the 360 cameras and wing mounted forwards and backward cameras in particular; they're the only way of parking what's quite a wide girl in a narrow garage. Everything just works, and that's not something I could always say with the Vanquish. Quiet start is also handy - my neighbours got really quite pissed off with the Vanquish, so now I can set off at unsocial hours without fear of being chased with a pitch fork.

I'd say it's the most complete, best overall Aston I've owned to date. Smiles per mile are a touch higher than the Vanquish, because I find it more fun to drive smile

nickv8

745 posts

40 months

Monday 3rd August
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Cheers! That’s a real neat summary from someone with good experience of both.

From what you wrote, it sounds like a “gen 1” V12 DB11. Interesting how you rate it above a previous flagship model. Times do indeed move on!

Keep having fun and good luck driving

NFC 85 Vette

2,900 posts

193 months

Tuesday 4th August
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nickv8 said:
Cheers! That’s a real neat summary from someone with good experience of both.

From what you wrote, it sounds like a “gen 1” V12 DB11. Interesting how you rate it above a previous flagship model. Times do indeed move on!

Keep having fun and good luck driving
Indeed, mine's a Launch Edition - though a late one, I think they became a 'regular' V12 DB11 not long after (end of June 2017). While it's only technically 4 years younger than the Vanquish, the step change in driving dynamics is quite dramatic. As with the rest of the current lineup, there was a design requirement that they all have an indecent amount of pace. I'm fortunate to have spent a good amount of time in all of the current range, and there's a nice level change between each model (so you don't feel like one model steps on the toes of others) - Vantage is great as a sports car that's got the scalpel like handling you'd expect, DBS is more like a bigger version of Vantage with (lots) more firepower (and almost as good handling), and DB11 sits in between, softer than both but way more capable than a 'soft' GT is expected to be.

I'd say the DB11 is overall a better car than the Vanquish. When you look beyond the infotainment screen (which still seems to be a deal breaker, despite it not being offensive to use, and not distracting when driving), it's a great package that isn't given the praise it deserves.

Felonious

304 posts

131 months

Tuesday 4th August
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The V12 Way said:
photos come through from Mike Kenefick of AM Bristol



That looks really good, well done! I assume you've declared your car a keeper?

Remind me, did you get the ski-slope and other interior bits done as well?

XXXAngelXXX

1,683 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th August
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Octavarium said:
XXXAngelXXX said:
Divine red smile
One of the best looking Astons to grace the pages of this forum.
Thank you Sir!!

The V12 Way

787 posts

41 months

Tuesday 4th August
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Felonious said:
That looks really good, well done! I assume you've declared your car a keeper?

Remind me, did you get the ski-slope and other interior bits done as well?
Hi Felonious, the ski slope, centre console and also the centre engine cover are being done but Michal Pastryk needs the pieces so will be in the winter months when i take it off the road. and yes this is a keeper, my son has his eye on it.lol

V12VMan

227 posts

140 months

Tuesday 4th August
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8Speed said:
Good luck with the surgery.
I was back in the driving seat after 4 weeks. Have had both hips done now & all is good.
Wow, well done you. Sounds good to me, thanks chap smile

AstonZagato

9,737 posts

167 months

Tuesday 4th August
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NFC 85 Vette said:
I'd say the DB11 is overall a better car than the Vanquish. When you look beyond the infotainment screen (which still seems to be a deal breaker, despite it not being offensive to use, and not distracting when driving), it's a great package that isn't given the praise it deserves.
Shows how different peoples perceptions can be.

I test drove a DB11 and thought it was a country mile behind my 2018 Vanquish S in every department. The DBSS probably edges it (except I still prefer the looks and sound of the Vanquish). The one feature I'd really like vs my Vanquish is the 360deg camera (no more scuffed wheels!).

100 IAN

1,072 posts

119 months

Tuesday 4th August
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Taken it for its very first drive after buying/collecting it, only to find I’m not the only early Vanquish in the club...

Felonious

304 posts

131 months

Tuesday 4th August
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The V12 Way said:
Hi Felonious, the ski slope, centre console and also the centre engine cover are being done but Michal Pastryk needs the pieces so will be in the winter months when i take it off the road. and yes this is a keeper, my son has his eye on it.lol
That sounds familiar - my eldest refers to it as ‘the inheritance’. As in “The Inheritance still running ok?”

Getting the ski slope replaced or in some way ‘carboned’ is definitely on the list. The piano black is just too prone to scratches.

JonnyCJ

545 posts

11 months

Tuesday 4th August
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Finally got the rear bumper on after it clogging up the workshop since Feb.

Did it on my own and to be honest, it’s not difficult. The only thing I would mention is to ensure you tape up the rear wing where it meets the bumper to prevent damaging the paint.

That tip came from BigMig and was very worthwhile.

I’ll pop up a bit more detail on my rear subframe thread tomorrow for those wots interested.

NFC 85 Vette

2,900 posts

193 months

Wednesday 5th August
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AstonZagato said:
Shows how different peoples perceptions can be.

I test drove a DB11 and thought it was a country mile behind my 2018 Vanquish S in every department. The DBSS probably edges it (except I still prefer the looks and sound of the Vanquish). The one feature I'd really like vs my Vanquish is the 360deg camera (no more scuffed wheels!).
My comparison was just against the car it replaced (2013 Vanquish Coupe). The Vanquish S was quite different - as you know, superior damping, better transmission, and a soundtrack that's probably only bettered by a GT12 or Rapide AMR (it's just not physically possible to make a turbocharged engine sound like that). I only had a weekend in one, but the overriding memory was how fluid the chassis was. It was quite playful and even if it wasn't putting all the power down effectively, it didn't turn into a bucking bronco.

As a first effort for a completely new car, I think the DB11's fantastic. It was refined and improved with the AMR, and I expect the next iteration will be better still. The camera system is the only way I get it in and out of the garage with about 35mm each side to spare biggrin It's perhaps the one major criticism i have of the current range, they're very, very wide cars nows.

milu

1,824 posts

223 months

Thursday 6th August
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Took mine for its MOT. Straight through
Only done 1400 miles since last years. Must get out more

lime1

338 posts

126 months

Thursday 6th August
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Given Thor a wash ready for the Northern run out on Sunday