New vantage chat

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dbs2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Greg_D said:
i was following a tesla model 3 into work today and it struck me that the rear hatch is extremely similar to the vantage, even down to the shape of the wider bit at the bottom and the recessed glass etc..... is it just me???


I can see it. Tesla is more elongated. Good garage buddies I'd say.

BlackTails

620 posts

56 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Greg_D said:
i was following a tesla model 3 into work today and it struck me that the rear hatch is extremely similar to the vantage, even down to the shape of the wider bit at the bottom and the recessed glass etc..... is it just me???


I would say the back ends of those two cars are about as similar as their colours.

Greg_D

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6,542 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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BlackTails said:
I would say the back ends of those two cars are about as similar as their colours.
rear hatch

macdeb

8,511 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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BlackTails said:
Greg_D said:
i was following a tesla model 3 into work today and it struck me that the rear hatch is extremely similar to the vantage, even down to the shape of the wider bit at the bottom and the recessed glass etc..... is it just me???


I would say the back ends of those two cars are about as similar as their colours.
^^^ This. Can't see any similarity at all.

bananarob

1,177 posts

182 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Sorry nor me. Like chalk and cheese. A mate has a 3, when my vantage arrives it’ll be the first thing I check!

Padley69

187 posts

134 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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bananarob said:
Sorry nor me. Like chalk and cheese. A mate has a 3, when my vantage arrives it’ll be the first thing I check!
Sorry to sound like a nerd but the Model 3 is a saloon not a hatch.
So even less in common with the Vantage

raceboy

13,116 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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Popped in to my local MD at the weekend just for a bit of a nose around on the way home from an event across the road and the hard sell on New Vantages was boarder line embarrassing.
Salesman was really doing a hard sell, telling me he'd got loads to choose from, and if I heard him correctly, it was £1k down, and £1k a month on a brand new basic spec car. driving
Ended up sneaking out while he was on a call looking the other way before I ended up with a coffee and a pen in my hand. wobble

KevinBird

1,037 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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raceboy said:
Popped in to my local MD at the weekend just for a bit of a nose around on the way home from an event across the road and the hard sell on New Vantages was boarder line embarrassing.
Salesman was really doing a hard sell, telling me he'd got loads to choose from, and if I heard him correctly, it was £1k down, and £1k a month on a brand new basic spec car. driving
Ended up sneaking out while he was on a call looking the other way before I ended up with a coffee and a pen in my hand. wobble
This correct for cars in stock. £25K to run a new Vantage for two years and then hand it back, seems a great deal

raceboy

13,116 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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KevinBird said:
£25K to run a new Vantage for two years and then hand it back, seems a great deal
Not at all really, as long as it's worth enough in 2 years to cover the balloon, or however it all works, I've always been a cash in full buyer paperbag
While in theory, giving them my car and using the funds to pay the new car rental seemed like a very easy way into a brand new Vantage well beyond my means, but in 2 years I'll have neither enough cash to carry on paying for it, either per month or the balance, and I'll not have enough to get into another new one.
I guess the smart thing would be to try and get the old car cash to work a bit harder before it all disappears in new car rent but I'm just a bit too risk adverse.

This did look very tempting though.... scratchchin


Edited by raceboy on Monday 2nd December 14:00

Jon39

12,838 posts

144 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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raceboy said:
While in theory, giving them my car and using the funds to pay the new car rental seemed like a very easy way into a brand new Vantage well beyond my means, but in 2 years I'll have neither enough cash to carry on paying for it, either per month or the balance, and I'll not have enough to get into another new one.


Mercedes UK double their total new car sales in UK.
Motorists can now drive a brand new Mercedes, instead of their previous used Mondeo, bought with hire purchase.

The Magic Circle refuse to reveal how it all works. Does it involve mirrors and smoke ?

wink


macdeb

8,511 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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KevinBird said:
raceboy said:
Popped in to my local MD at the weekend just for a bit of a nose around on the way home from an event across the road and the hard sell on New Vantages was boarder line embarrassing.
Salesman was really doing a hard sell, telling me he'd got loads to choose from, and if I heard him correctly, it was £1k down, and £1k a month on a brand new basic spec car. driving
Ended up sneaking out while he was on a call looking the other way before I ended up with a coffee and a pen in my hand. wobble
This correct for cars in stock. £25K to run a new Vantage for two years and then hand it back, seems a great deal
I'm presuming that is a joke and typed with tongue firmly in cheek. scratchchin

ds666

2,640 posts

180 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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KevinBird said:
raceboy said:
Popped in to my local MD at the weekend just for a bit of a nose around on the way home from an event across the road and the hard sell on New Vantages was boarder line embarrassing.
Salesman was really doing a hard sell, telling me he'd got loads to choose from, and if I heard him correctly, it was £1k down, and £1k a month on a brand new basic spec car. driving
Ended up sneaking out while he was on a call looking the other way before I ended up with a coffee and a pen in my hand. wobble
This correct for cars in stock. £25K to run a new Vantage for two years and then hand it back, seems a great deal
If it’s not one of the “Sunday Times “ deals that sounds amazing value . Why would you buy one ?

nickv8

1,348 posts

84 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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raceboy said:
Popped in to my local MD at the weekend just for a bit of a nose around on the way home from an event across the road and the hard sell on New Vantages was boarder line embarrassing.
Salesman was really doing a hard sell, telling me he'd got loads to choose from, and if I heard him correctly, it was £1k down, and £1k a month on a brand new basic spec car. driving
Ended up sneaking out while he was on a call looking the other way before I ended up with a coffee and a pen in my hand. wobble
That would be quite a deal!

As someone who’s never gone down this route, a couple of naive questions:

1. If prices tanked more than dreaded in the 2 years, would the buyer be liable for any additional devaluation charge?

2. Is the £1k/month unmovable throughout the period, even if a miracle happened and interest rates climbed?

3. If the car was damaged (light accident, heavy curbing, etc) in the period but rectified by a MD, would there be a surcharge?

4. Are these kind of deals only for cars in stock? I’m presuming a new car can’t be spec’d for this (even avoiding any extras)?

5. Is full AM warranty cover (recovery, etc) and servicing likely included?

Edited by nickv8 on Monday 2nd December 18:29

cayman-black

12,648 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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25k for two years? If you paid outright i think you will lose far more so seems a good deal..

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

177 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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cayman-black said:
25k for two years? If you paid outright i think you will lose far more so seems a good deal..
If this is indeed a "25K and walk away after two years" deal than anyone buying one would be an idiot. Of course these cars will lose more than 25K in 2 years. What Aston doesn't lose at least 1/3 after two years?

raceboy

13,116 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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nickv8 said:
4. Are these kind of deals only for cars in stock? I’m presuming a new car can’t be spec’d for this (even avoiding any extras)?
That was the impression I got, the salesman wanted to show me what there was to choose from out the back. I guess the dealer is contracted to move a certain amount of cars per month if there are no orders they have to make up the shortfall, was at a different MD a few weeks ago and they had a car park round the back full of monochrome Vantages with no plates.

nickv8 said:
5. Is full AM warranty cover (recovery, etc) and servicinge
Yes, it’s a brand new AM and comes with all the trimmings, this was also one of the salesman’s hooks, it includes the service pack and warranty so no additional bills.

Jon39

12,838 posts

144 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
cayman-black said:
25k for two years? If you paid outright i think you will lose far more, so seems a good deal..
If this is indeed a "25K and walk away after two years" deal, then anyone buying one would be an idiot. Of course these cars will lose more than 25K in 2 years. What Aston doesn't lose at least 1/3 after two years?

This puzzles me, because someone, or someone's business must own these cars.
Unlikely that it is a philanthropic charity, so presumably it is a financing company.

Are they knowingly going to lose money, by charging the users £25k, then face depreciation of a higher amount ?

There must be more to this. Can anyone explain?






anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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Some manufacturers operate buy back schemes. This allows the dealer/trader to fix their exposure and work out an offer they are guaranteed to make money on.

jonnyfox

118 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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Hi. New to Aston Martin I picked up a 6 month old 2k miles Hammerhead Silver Vantage (which is more a medium grey) last Wednesday from Cheltenham, it was their demonstrator. I'm very happy with it. I think it's a beautiful car, as did 10 or so different people (at least) I met over this last weekend.

I drove to Anglesey from Sutton Coldfield on the A5 and back on the M6 using one tank of petrol. I didn't track it, I save that for my R300 but I did have a spirited drive there Saturday. Took it easy on the way home Sunday evening. Fuel light came on as I pulled into my local garage. Close to a 6 hour trip overall, no issue with seats either, all good.

Yep tyres jump, my wife's Merc did the same, especially in the cold. Merc replaced them, I don't find it an issue. Hyper sensitive parking sensors, I just turn them off.

Sports plus pack, tech pack, comfort pack, black pack, premium audio, dark chrome jewellery and black leather interior. I've missed a few others bits but not much. Hope you like it too beer





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Graze01

1,044 posts

93 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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These type of buy now & rent schemes are just surfacing here in Australia (courtesy of Mercedes) - used to be lease with agreed monthly payments over agreed term & agreed residual, chattel mortgage (similar terms) or personal loan (less security for lender & higher interest rate)

Seems to me that the time to pick up a good low used Vantage will be 24 months from now (give or take) when someone else has to get rid of it for the best price they can to get out of their deal

Graze