911 to F type....
Discussion
Well, after nearly 20 years of Porsche ownership I’m fancying a change!
So, I’ve just sold my 997 GTS and really like the overall package of the F type, stunning looks, coupled with a variety of engine combinations, good dynamic chassis, coupe/cab what’s not to like?
I suppose that’s my question to the Jag informed on here, what are the main ownership differences that I’m likely to notice most? I realise they are very different drivers cars, the main thing, the engine being in opposite ends of the vehicle! But, apart from that what’s missing in the F type that a 911 has and vice versa, I think its a heart thing more than the head, a passion....
I haven’t driven either the 3.0S or the 5.0 but I think these two are the ones I will be ultimately be choosing between! Maybe some on here has done the swap, you comments would be appreciated, along with any others, thanks...
So, I’ve just sold my 997 GTS and really like the overall package of the F type, stunning looks, coupled with a variety of engine combinations, good dynamic chassis, coupe/cab what’s not to like?
I suppose that’s my question to the Jag informed on here, what are the main ownership differences that I’m likely to notice most? I realise they are very different drivers cars, the main thing, the engine being in opposite ends of the vehicle! But, apart from that what’s missing in the F type that a 911 has and vice versa, I think its a heart thing more than the head, a passion....
I haven’t driven either the 3.0S or the 5.0 but I think these two are the ones I will be ultimately be choosing between! Maybe some on here has done the swap, you comments would be appreciated, along with any others, thanks...
Hi, I can't comment on an F Type, but, after a similarly long Porsche affiliation, my last being a 996 Turbo, (manual 'box). I moved to an Aston Martin V8 Vantage (also manual). I wouldn't go back! The 911 had fantastic, but somehow uninvolving, performance. It did it all in a clinical way. If that makes sense.
The Aston, by contrast is more analogue, hands on. It still has far more performance than I could ever use, especially on the road! I think what I'm trying to say is that the V8V gives me much more driving satisfaction. As I said don't know how relevant my experience is to the F Type but I imagine that there is some similarity.
Hope this helps.....
The Aston, by contrast is more analogue, hands on. It still has far more performance than I could ever use, especially on the road! I think what I'm trying to say is that the V8V gives me much more driving satisfaction. As I said don't know how relevant my experience is to the F Type but I imagine that there is some similarity.
Hope this helps.....
Edited by tonycordon on Monday 13th July 11:00
I might be able to offer some advice of a sort, but not directly related to coming from a 997 to an F type. I have had both 911’s and F types though.
I had a 996 turbo which was supersonic but a bit sterile. It’s almost too good. It was quite noisy but not in an aurally pleasing way. Too mechanical...I need a decent noise to emanate from my car’s exhaust. Visibility and practically were top notch. Young family fitted in the back.
I had an F type R V8 coupe which was raucous. A lot of fun, just pressing the loud pedal was a pleasure. Great looks, fully modern and well built (though to a budget; compare it to an Aston, and you’ll know what I mean). Good boot size (Clarkson said you can fit 14 hats in there). There were some specific items I wanted in the car, and I guess like Porsche, they were extras. It’s only a two seater (obv.) so became more of a weekend car. I had an electronic gremlin in the entertainment system after a free software update, that I didn’t have the patience to fix. And also, there was a lot of power going through the rear wheels. On anything but bone dry roads, it was a bit unstable. I traded it on. In comparison a 996turbo was probably as fast, but had the benefit of 4WD. Maybe a AWD V8 may have been more appropriate and a better prospect? They hadn’t brought out the AWD when I got my V8.
Well, move forward a year or two and I had an F type SVR...(I bought this after “parting ways” with another car that had too much power going through the rear wheels). The SVR is essentially is a souped up V8R with inherent AWD. It was terrifyingly fast. Someone even likened it to a jet fighter, the way it tore off the line. Same practicality as the regular F type coupe. Again it was a super car (in the truest sense), and I sold it because it was too fast and I wasn’t! I literally scared myself into selling it...I’m not reckless it just accelerated too quickly. BTW, the F type convertible as beautiful as it is has a tiny boot....I don’t think you’d get a weekly shop in there...
Then I had a 991.2 GTS which didn’t seem as fast as the SVR but actually probably was. However it felt a lot more controlled and comfortable driving the Porsche....more civilised. Commensurate with getting a bit older.... :-). But unfortunately the car I had was a Friday afternoon car and spent too much time back at Porsche getting fixed and re-fixed. As I eluded to before, I’m a little thin on patience and it had to go. (ironically I’m in an AMG now which in my mind is kind of a bridge between the wild animal Jaguar and the civility of a Porsche).
The jaguar is a wonderful car. I see them now and again on the road and wish I had had the patience to stay with the original V8. I’d have got used to it.
Best of luck in your choices.
Regards Brin
I had a 996 turbo which was supersonic but a bit sterile. It’s almost too good. It was quite noisy but not in an aurally pleasing way. Too mechanical...I need a decent noise to emanate from my car’s exhaust. Visibility and practically were top notch. Young family fitted in the back.
I had an F type R V8 coupe which was raucous. A lot of fun, just pressing the loud pedal was a pleasure. Great looks, fully modern and well built (though to a budget; compare it to an Aston, and you’ll know what I mean). Good boot size (Clarkson said you can fit 14 hats in there). There were some specific items I wanted in the car, and I guess like Porsche, they were extras. It’s only a two seater (obv.) so became more of a weekend car. I had an electronic gremlin in the entertainment system after a free software update, that I didn’t have the patience to fix. And also, there was a lot of power going through the rear wheels. On anything but bone dry roads, it was a bit unstable. I traded it on. In comparison a 996turbo was probably as fast, but had the benefit of 4WD. Maybe a AWD V8 may have been more appropriate and a better prospect? They hadn’t brought out the AWD when I got my V8.
Well, move forward a year or two and I had an F type SVR...(I bought this after “parting ways” with another car that had too much power going through the rear wheels). The SVR is essentially is a souped up V8R with inherent AWD. It was terrifyingly fast. Someone even likened it to a jet fighter, the way it tore off the line. Same practicality as the regular F type coupe. Again it was a super car (in the truest sense), and I sold it because it was too fast and I wasn’t! I literally scared myself into selling it...I’m not reckless it just accelerated too quickly. BTW, the F type convertible as beautiful as it is has a tiny boot....I don’t think you’d get a weekly shop in there...
Then I had a 991.2 GTS which didn’t seem as fast as the SVR but actually probably was. However it felt a lot more controlled and comfortable driving the Porsche....more civilised. Commensurate with getting a bit older.... :-). But unfortunately the car I had was a Friday afternoon car and spent too much time back at Porsche getting fixed and re-fixed. As I eluded to before, I’m a little thin on patience and it had to go. (ironically I’m in an AMG now which in my mind is kind of a bridge between the wild animal Jaguar and the civility of a Porsche).
The jaguar is a wonderful car. I see them now and again on the road and wish I had had the patience to stay with the original V8. I’d have got used to it.
Best of luck in your choices.
Regards Brin
Big Brin said:
The SVR is essentially is a souped up V8R with inherent AWD. It was terrifyingly fast. Someone even likened it to a jet fighter, the way it tore off the line. Same practicality as the regular F type coupe. Again it was a super car (in the truest sense), and I sold it because it was too fast and I wasn’t! I literally scared myself into selling it...I’m not reckless it just accelerated too quickly.
A Lightning pilot described this rather well as (I paraphrase) 'the aeroplane is halfway down the runway but you're still in the locker room'.I've not been behind the wheel for as long as some of the more experienced members on here but I thought I'd share an anecdote from personal experience. I have spent a fair amount of time in F Types including one of the 2019 P380s for a review on a blog I run (though I don't own one permanently) and my impression is that the cars perform better as straight line blasters and GT style cars than something which you would take into the twisties. I found (and perhaps I was unlucky) that when you push the car, either directly or even by taking it over slightly imperfect terrain, it can feel a tad unbalanced. Superb fun on the motorways and flowing roads - looks like a dream - and is a genuinely nice experience, but there was something in the back of my mind which left me slightly careful.
Not long after doing a 500 mile test of that F Type I was on a Porsche test day at the Silverstone complex where we were taking round the latest 911 base model. It felt a lot more dialled in to demanding B-road driving and changes of momentum. I spoke to one of the instructors and (granted, perhaps not completely unbiased) he mentioned that when they'd brought a bunch of other sports cars in to do client events (so equivalent Mercs, Audis, and Jags) the F Types seemed to be the ones which people spun off the most. Not to say it's a bad car by any means; I am not entirely sure why that is but it may be something to do with the way the F Type behaves at high speed under high load - a bit slippery, a bit unpredictable. I don't want to talk out of turn but I felt a lot more planted in the Porsche.
Not long after doing a 500 mile test of that F Type I was on a Porsche test day at the Silverstone complex where we were taking round the latest 911 base model. It felt a lot more dialled in to demanding B-road driving and changes of momentum. I spoke to one of the instructors and (granted, perhaps not completely unbiased) he mentioned that when they'd brought a bunch of other sports cars in to do client events (so equivalent Mercs, Audis, and Jags) the F Types seemed to be the ones which people spun off the most. Not to say it's a bad car by any means; I am not entirely sure why that is but it may be something to do with the way the F Type behaves at high speed under high load - a bit slippery, a bit unpredictable. I don't want to talk out of turn but I felt a lot more planted in the Porsche.
You’ll feel at home, “moo”vin from Pork to Cat. 
Both marques interiors come in black, black, or black.
Jaguar excel themselves at having the most boring colour palette nowadays for interior design that I’ve seen in a long while. Scroll through Jaguar’s Online pre-owned, and 95% of the offerings are dowdy anthracite.
I might be wrong, but that might be because there’s too many cars built which just go straight to dealer stock compounds?
For a car with a starting price point upwards of mid-50K - Jaguar needs to sack off its interior designers.
Ralf Speth and Julian Thompson should have used the 2020 restyle as a golden opportunity to throw some sparkle in to the car’s interiors; rather than style the front end to look like my wife’s Audi TT.
Can’t you just feel the love with my post.
Both marques interiors come in black, black, or black.
Jaguar excel themselves at having the most boring colour palette nowadays for interior design that I’ve seen in a long while. Scroll through Jaguar’s Online pre-owned, and 95% of the offerings are dowdy anthracite.
I might be wrong, but that might be because there’s too many cars built which just go straight to dealer stock compounds?
For a car with a starting price point upwards of mid-50K - Jaguar needs to sack off its interior designers.
Ralf Speth and Julian Thompson should have used the 2020 restyle as a golden opportunity to throw some sparkle in to the car’s interiors; rather than style the front end to look like my wife’s Audi TT.
Can’t you just feel the love with my post.
VelvetGreen said:
I've not been behind the wheel for as long as some of the more experienced members on here but I thought I'd share an anecdote from personal experience. I have spent a fair amount of time in F Types including one of the 2019 P380s for a review on a blog I run (though I don't own one permanently) and my impression is that the cars perform better as straight line blasters and GT style cars than something which you would take into the twisties. I found (and perhaps I was unlucky) that when you push the car, either directly or even by taking it over slightly imperfect terrain, it can feel a tad unbalanced. Superb fun on the motorways and flowing roads - looks like a dream - and is a genuinely nice experience, but there was something in the back of my mind which left me slightly careful.
Not long after doing a 500 mile test of that F Type I was on a Porsche test day at the Silverstone complex where we were taking round the latest 911 base model. It felt a lot more dialled in to demanding B-road driving and changes of momentum. I spoke to one of the instructors and (granted, perhaps not completely unbiased) he mentioned that when they'd brought a bunch of other sports cars in to do client events (so equivalent Mercs, Audis, and Jags) the F Types seemed to be the ones which people spun off the most. Not to say it's a bad car by any means; I am not entirely sure why that is but it may be something to do with the way the F Type behaves at high speed under high load - a bit slippery, a bit unpredictable. I don't want to talk out of turn but I felt a lot more planted in the Porsche.
I sold a v8s cab, my Porsche that followed felt sharper, the McLaren that followed that sharper still.Not long after doing a 500 mile test of that F Type I was on a Porsche test day at the Silverstone complex where we were taking round the latest 911 base model. It felt a lot more dialled in to demanding B-road driving and changes of momentum. I spoke to one of the instructors and (granted, perhaps not completely unbiased) he mentioned that when they'd brought a bunch of other sports cars in to do client events (so equivalent Mercs, Audis, and Jags) the F Types seemed to be the ones which people spun off the most. Not to say it's a bad car by any means; I am not entirely sure why that is but it may be something to do with the way the F Type behaves at high speed under high load - a bit slippery, a bit unpredictable. I don't want to talk out of turn but I felt a lot more planted in the Porsche.
However I still intend to put an f type back in my second garage at some point, truly raucous driving fun, tail happy (v8s was rwd). Only issue is interior can feel a bit low rent, buttons such as starter one become sticky with age (really)
New Relic said:
Jaguar excel themselves at having the most boring colour palette nowadays for interior design that I’ve seen in a long while. Scroll through Jaguar’s Online pre-owned, and 95% of the offerings are dowdy anthracite.
that reminds me of when we bought LadyB8's latest Merc, there were 130 E350CDIs on their list and only 3 weren't black cat in a coal mine black interiors. Gassing Station | Jaguar | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff