They pulling a fast one?
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Just had a call from the garage where my wife's car was going through MOT that it has failed.
Fail = corroded rear brakes discs
Car = 2015 Range Evoque which has covered 28k
Is it unusual for the pads & discs to go after barely 30k?
Reason for suspicion = asked them to look at a squeak when cold
Appreciate/I guess there is no real way to tell (apart from taking it somewhere else for another MOT test) but wanted to know if corroded brakes is actual fail?
Fail = corroded rear brakes discs
Car = 2015 Range Evoque which has covered 28k
Is it unusual for the pads & discs to go after barely 30k?
Reason for suspicion = asked them to look at a squeak when cold
Appreciate/I guess there is no real way to tell (apart from taking it somewhere else for another MOT test) but wanted to know if corroded brakes is actual fail?
Sometimes yes. In some cars the rear brakes do next to booger all and corrode and pit badly and need replacement. It's crazy that nowadays if you don't brake hard enough and the car sits around/is low mileage, then the brakes will need replacing because of corrosion
On my Clubman the rear brakes wear out twice as fast as the fronts. In addition some cars brake rear brakes more to aid stability.
On my Clubman the rear brakes wear out twice as fast as the fronts. In addition some cars brake rear brakes more to aid stability.
if you're really concerned you're being fleeced then there's a few things you can do, but they require you to be pretty up front with the garage and risk losing the garage as a friendly bunch....
If you speak to them and say you're highly concerned about the idea of the car having excessively corroded brakes that they fail an MOT, they should be willing to demonstrate to you the extent of the issue. Then, if with your own (probably un-trained) eyes (that's not a dig, just that if you're not an MOT tester or someone who routinely inspects brakes to MOT standards then you're essentially a layman) you still don't think that there is sufficient cause to fail the car then you have two options. Either refuse the repair work and take the car elsewhere for an MOT - this will need to be the complete test, at the full price, and will be logged in the vehicles history as such, or you get the repair work done, either by them, or by another garage, but ask that a note is added to your invoice (with the MOT centre) to say that the repair work was done under protest, and ask for any replaced parts to be left in the boot of the car. At which point, you have to take it up with VOSA/trading standards. Firstly you can demonstrate with your invoice that this isn't "buyers remorse", and secondly, you have the failure parts to present as evidence.
If other people highlight that this is a known issue, then chances are its JLR who have pulled a fast one by fitted s
te OE parts, rather than the garage.
Most MOT centres are at their core justified in their actions - the loss of revenue and reputational damage should they be caught unnecessarily failing cars would significantly outweigh the benefit of fitted a set of pads and discs, so combining that with the above statement, chances are they do need doing.
If you speak to them and say you're highly concerned about the idea of the car having excessively corroded brakes that they fail an MOT, they should be willing to demonstrate to you the extent of the issue. Then, if with your own (probably un-trained) eyes (that's not a dig, just that if you're not an MOT tester or someone who routinely inspects brakes to MOT standards then you're essentially a layman) you still don't think that there is sufficient cause to fail the car then you have two options. Either refuse the repair work and take the car elsewhere for an MOT - this will need to be the complete test, at the full price, and will be logged in the vehicles history as such, or you get the repair work done, either by them, or by another garage, but ask that a note is added to your invoice (with the MOT centre) to say that the repair work was done under protest, and ask for any replaced parts to be left in the boot of the car. At which point, you have to take it up with VOSA/trading standards. Firstly you can demonstrate with your invoice that this isn't "buyers remorse", and secondly, you have the failure parts to present as evidence.
If other people highlight that this is a known issue, then chances are its JLR who have pulled a fast one by fitted s
te OE parts, rather than the garage.Most MOT centres are at their core justified in their actions - the loss of revenue and reputational damage should they be caught unnecessarily failing cars would significantly outweigh the benefit of fitted a set of pads and discs, so combining that with the above statement, chances are they do need doing.
Sebba said:
thanks guys - didn't look too bad to me but to be fair, if it just went bad due lack of use = makes sense i guess.....
If the brakes are effective and not weakened, it should pass the test. I had an advisory on my Fiesta ST's rear discs at 3 years old and 7000 miles. Just one problem when a car is little-used!
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