AMOC in the Armco
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From my perspective, as a fairly young owner, the AMOC is out of touch. it's a legacy old school approach to running a club that's more akin to a committee. Too much politics, not enough presence. The online presence is woful and there's no social interaction or want to bring in new members.
Before folks jump on and tell me that's not how it is - whether people feel it's accurate or irrelevant - the reality is that that's the perception they're presenting to the outside world.
Chris.
Before folks jump on and tell me that's not how it is - whether people feel it's accurate or irrelevant - the reality is that that's the perception they're presenting to the outside world.
Chris.
woodsypedia said:
From my perspective, as a fairly young owner, the AMOC is out of touch. it's a legacy old school approach to running a club that's more akin to a committee. Too much politics, not enough presence. The online presence is woful and there's no social interaction or want to bring in new members.
Before folks jump on and tell me that's not how it is - whether people feel it's accurate or irrelevant - the reality is that that's the perception they're presenting to the outside world.
Chris.
I agree with what woodsy says... although I must admit to not being fairly young. Actually I'm quite old. I think my opinion is still valid though....Before folks jump on and tell me that's not how it is - whether people feel it's accurate or irrelevant - the reality is that that's the perception they're presenting to the outside world.
Chris.
If only to me
I'm not going to defend AMOC or the civil war that appears to have broken out, with various questionable actions being taken by insurgents as it is on a "second warning" as far as I am concerned. I'd miss the magazines and....er...and currently that's apparently it. I plan a visit to the AMHT HQ and museum when normality returns, so I may have a view on that as well. And even the AMHT is a bone of contention for some.
However, due to the very nature of the car manufacturer it's associated with it probably has to appeal to one of the widest possible range of demographics and interests: from the likes of Series 2's, DB 2/4's and similar; iconic DB 4's, 5's & 6's, the brutal Newport Pagnell V8's, Town's Lagonda; via Bloxham; through Gaydon models and on to exotica like 1-77's, Valkyrie and beyond, with activities including concourse, touring, racing or just hanging out (and sometimes looking like extras from The Persuaders). Tricky call, and not one faced by Scooby Owners UK.
However, due to the very nature of the car manufacturer it's associated with it probably has to appeal to one of the widest possible range of demographics and interests: from the likes of Series 2's, DB 2/4's and similar; iconic DB 4's, 5's & 6's, the brutal Newport Pagnell V8's, Town's Lagonda; via Bloxham; through Gaydon models and on to exotica like 1-77's, Valkyrie and beyond, with activities including concourse, touring, racing or just hanging out (and sometimes looking like extras from The Persuaders). Tricky call, and not one faced by Scooby Owners UK.
I did not join AMOC until many years after buying my Vantage. I had assumed that it mostly catered for the Feltham and Newport Pagnell era cars.
When I did join though I discovered that I was wrong, most owners I met had Gaydon cars.
The enjoyment of membership probably varies according to how active your particular area happens to be.
You can select your area, if you happen to live not too far from another, which you prefer.
I have attended a few good social gatherings and also been on visits. My Gaydon factory tour was postponed for obvious reasons.
The magazines can be interesting, but some feel there are far too many adverts.
The Heritage Trust museum can be visited by anyone, no need to be an AMOC member. They only charge a very modest entry fee anyway (free entry for AMOC members, because a chunk of the AMOC membership fee goes to AMHT).
Have not been tempted by invitations to their driving holiday trips, at thousands of Pounds per person, breakfast included !
I love the place and the people. But cannot for the life of me excuse the current cluster.
The forum is very vibrant for DB7 and Vanquish owners and is improving all the time for Gaydon cars.
It might be worth popping along to your next area meeting as a guest if it is nearby. You might just like it. It might not be for you.
As for trips etc. Many areas and sub groups organise their own at cost of travel and hotels. Group organised but independently booked. It couldn't be cheaper.
It is not all about millionaire owners.
The forum is very vibrant for DB7 and Vanquish owners and is improving all the time for Gaydon cars.
It might be worth popping along to your next area meeting as a guest if it is nearby. You might just like it. It might not be for you.
As for trips etc. Many areas and sub groups organise their own at cost of travel and hotels. Group organised but independently booked. It couldn't be cheaper.
It is not all about millionaire owners.
I can wholeheartedly recommend Area00 of AMOC, hosted by Jason Karr. Doesn't matter where you are based. Runs it for the members - gassing, touring, old AM owners and new AM owners. Runs a call every Thursday 7.30 to midnight with people dialing-in from Portugal, Germany and the US. How it should be - just enthusiasts having a gas and planning getting out in their cars on 'open invite' tours. Any problems at HQ are largely irrelevant to most of us.
I joined when I had a Vanquish made for me. I was told by some very shouty members that it was not a proper Aston (despite being made in Newport Pagnell). I then bought a quite rare 1982 V8 and half a 1959 Aston - so I owned 3 at the same time.
But the AMOC was full of of red-trousered panjandrums who clearly missed out on something in life and the AMOC gave them a conduit to throw their limited weight around. Pathetic.
I was delighted to leave.
It's a car club for the terminally bored. That's it. Nothing else. And a very average club at that.
Perfect for junior barristers with bits of an Aston in a box who can't afford a proper one.
But the AMOC was full of of red-trousered panjandrums who clearly missed out on something in life and the AMOC gave them a conduit to throw their limited weight around. Pathetic.
I was delighted to leave.
It's a car club for the terminally bored. That's it. Nothing else. And a very average club at that.
Perfect for junior barristers with bits of an Aston in a box who can't afford a proper one.
Steve42 said:
I can wholeheartedly recommend Area00 of AMOC, hosted by Jason Karr. Doesn't matter where you are based. Runs it for the members - gassing, touring, old AM owners and new AM owners. Runs a call every Thursday 7.30 to midnight with people dialing-in from Portugal, Germany and the US. How it should be - just enthusiasts having a gas and planning getting out in their cars on 'open invite' tours. Any problems at HQ are largely irrelevant to most of us.
Great to hear people are making the most of it. NDA said:
I joined when I had a Vanquish made for me. I was told by some very shouty members that it was not a proper Aston (despite being made in Newport Pagnell). I then bought a quite rare 1982 V8 and half a 1959 Aston - so I owned 3 at the same time.
But the AMOC was full of of red-trousered panjandrums who clearly missed out on something in life and the AMOC gave them a conduit to throw their limited weight around. Pathetic.
I was delighted to leave.
It's a car club for the terminally bored. That's it. Nothing else. And a very average club at that.
Perfect for junior barristers with bits of an Aston in a box who can't afford a proper one.
The irony of that is that the Vanquish brigade are very active in the club these days and it's the new Vantage guys that hear that they have bought a Merc in sheeps clothing. But the AMOC was full of of red-trousered panjandrums who clearly missed out on something in life and the AMOC gave them a conduit to throw their limited weight around. Pathetic.
I was delighted to leave.
It's a car club for the terminally bored. That's it. Nothing else. And a very average club at that.
Perfect for junior barristers with bits of an Aston in a box who can't afford a proper one.
I bet it was the same when the 6 cylinder cars started giving way to the V8's. A cyclic action to each new era.
I joined recently as I was looking for a Vanquish and was told the forums were a good source of info . I bought a car that wasn’t advertised from someone who saw the thread I started . Met some good people in the club so far and looking forward to the Vanquish Day Out .
Don’t like red trousers but I’m sure you can chose your pals like you do in any club . Lots of muppets everywhere , even on here lol .
Found the PCGB had some snobs in it who took great offense when I called my 996 a TT ( as in twin Turbo ) ... nearly caused a riot.
Don’t like red trousers but I’m sure you can chose your pals like you do in any club . Lots of muppets everywhere , even on here lol .
Found the PCGB had some snobs in it who took great offense when I called my 996 a TT ( as in twin Turbo ) ... nearly caused a riot.
Edited by ds666 on Thursday 8th April 21:33
Edited by ds666 on Thursday 8th April 21:35
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