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TheHound said:
Also, when did the dash change to that cleaner, touch button version (I did try and google this but couldn't find the answer)? Is it generally considered an improvement over the old one?
There have been three different centre consoles.
1st MY 2005 4.3
2nd MY 2009 4.7 (taken from the DBS)
3rd the one which you have asked about (taken from the Vanquish)
I don't know exactly when the 3rd one was introduced (obviously MY2016) but might have been a year earlier.
All personal choice as always. I like the second version. Slightly fiddly to use, but looks good to me.
I bought my last car (manual Roadster) from Newcastle, they were a pleasure to deal with and the car at 3.5 years old was prepared like new.
However, the used market must be really strong if a 5 year old car is still £74k. Has the new Vantage at £140k lifted up residual values for late model previous gen cars ? (perhaps preferred by some people) I thought a 5 year old V8 would be going for £55-60K, perhaps not from a main dealer though.
For £75k Id be looking at a V12 Vantage, albeit it would not be a Roadster.....
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103280...
However, the used market must be really strong if a 5 year old car is still £74k. Has the new Vantage at £140k lifted up residual values for late model previous gen cars ? (perhaps preferred by some people) I thought a 5 year old V8 would be going for £55-60K, perhaps not from a main dealer though.
For £75k Id be looking at a V12 Vantage, albeit it would not be a Roadster.....
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103280...
TheHound said:
LTP said:
In hindsight and having seen the swirls (fixed by Paddy)
Thanks again. Forgive my ignorance, but who is Paddy?You can search for his username in the "Search" function, but here's one of the threads about him
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
and in this thread here's a shot of him in the process of transforming my swirly caterpillar into a shiny butterfly
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
TheHound said:
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3. The car was bought in 2018 by Ernst and Young, so has clearly been a company car since then. This pre-dates the clutch replacement and bodywork mentioned above. Also, the mileage was 26,360 at this point, and is now 54,634, so almost half the car's miles have been racked up in these three years. I guess this is evidence the car was probably not cared for that much during this time, and possibly thrashed/driven not so responsibily. Definitely a bit off-putting. Then again, manual 4.7 Vantage Roadster for aounrd £40k is pretty tempting on paper!
Bit odd, a massive Financial Services company like EY buying a second-hand car, even as a toy for one of the partners. As far as thrashing a 4.7, I think the engines are generally regarded as pretty bullet-proof and, at less than 92 bhp/litre are hardly overstressed. Might be worth talking to Mike at Bamford Rose to see if he'd run a few checks on the car and offer his advice (and what it'd cost).3. The car was bought in 2018 by Ernst and Young, so has clearly been a company car since then. This pre-dates the clutch replacement and bodywork mentioned above. Also, the mileage was 26,360 at this point, and is now 54,634, so almost half the car's miles have been racked up in these three years. I guess this is evidence the car was probably not cared for that much during this time, and possibly thrashed/driven not so responsibily. Definitely a bit off-putting. Then again, manual 4.7 Vantage Roadster for aounrd £40k is pretty tempting on paper!
TheHound said:
Thanks for the comments. Yeah I'm edging towards discounting this one. I think it's been thrashed a bit since being a corporate car, and the poor listing quality is not a great sign.
There's another lovely one up in Newcastle - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104131...
Quite a bit more cash, but ticks the boxes and is a nicer colour and even includes the upgraded stereo (as per main description, though the specifications list says it has the standard one). In the light of the comment about haggling, what would be a realistic price I may be able to get this one down to?
Also, when did the dash change to that cleaner, touch button version (I did try and google this but couldn't find the answer)? Is it generally considered an improvement over the old one?
agreed that is a lovely car and also as low mileage as you are going to find. But its a full price! I've seen 2 2016 N430 Coupes sold or under offer recently at high 50s. One was McGurk, the other was HWM. So feels like either thats over priced or rightly or wrongly there is a very fat premium for a convertible. I like my own N430 but for that money I'd be all over a 17 plate Boxster Spyder...different league and probably better residualsThere's another lovely one up in Newcastle - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104131...
Quite a bit more cash, but ticks the boxes and is a nicer colour and even includes the upgraded stereo (as per main description, though the specifications list says it has the standard one). In the light of the comment about haggling, what would be a realistic price I may be able to get this one down to?
Also, when did the dash change to that cleaner, touch button version (I did try and google this but couldn't find the answer)? Is it generally considered an improvement over the old one?
Wife is not keen on me spending the higher price. 
I found a pretty nice one here on Pistonheads - still above what I was anticipating spending but less than the Newcastle one and ultra low mileage. I don't know what the etiquette is on posting/discussing listings from this site on the forums, but it's this one: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11219491
As a general question, and if this does transgress anything please let me know, but how much is reasonable as a percentage to expect to be haggle off with these kinds of sales?
There have been three different centre consoles.
1st MY 2005 4.3
2nd MY 2009 4.7 (taken from the DBS)
3rd the one which you have asked about (taken from the Vanquish)
I don't know exactly when the 3rd one was introduced (obviously MY2016) but might have been a year earlier.
All personal choice as always. I like the second version. Slightly fiddly to use, but looks good to me.Thank you - very informative.
I found a pretty nice one here on Pistonheads - still above what I was anticipating spending but less than the Newcastle one and ultra low mileage. I don't know what the etiquette is on posting/discussing listings from this site on the forums, but it's this one: https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11219491
As a general question, and if this does transgress anything please let me know, but how much is reasonable as a percentage to expect to be haggle off with these kinds of sales?
Jon39 said:
There have been three different centre consoles.
1st MY 2005 4.3
2nd MY 2009 4.7 (taken from the DBS)
3rd the one which you have asked about (taken from the Vanquish)
I don't know exactly when the 3rd one was introduced (obviously MY2016) but might have been a year earlier.
All personal choice as always. I like the second version. Slightly fiddly to use, but looks good to me.
LTP said:
Bit odd, a massive Financial Services company like EY buying a second-hand car, even as a toy for one of the partners.
My son is a chartered accountant. They are certainly a 'breed' who enjoy a bargain.
Remember that you can buy two, 3 year old 'as new' Aston Martins, for the same cost as one new one.
Therefore, two very happy EY partners.
Dewi 2 said:
My son is a chartered accountant. They are certainly a 'breed' who enjoy a bargain.
Remember that you can buy two, 3 year old 'as new' Aston Martins, for the same cost as one new one.
Therefore, two very happy EY partners.
TheHound said:
I found a pretty nice one here on Pistonheads - still above what I was anticipating spending but less than the Newcastle one
and ultra low mileage. .......
and ultra low mileage. .......
There is a premium in the price, but that must reflect the particular car.
The photos show an 'as-new' car, with odometer just 3,278 miles. Few like that around now.
TheHound said:
Jon39 said:
There is a premium in the price, but that must reflect the particular car.
The photos show an 'as-new' car, with odometer just 3,278 miles. Few like that around now.
Just have to try and see.
With main dealers, there is one with a reputation of never giving a penny off.
Most are slightly flexible though, but not very much.
The time for more discount is towards the end of some quarter months, if main dealers are a few cars short on their sales target.
In my limited experience dealers are more willing to concede something useful to the buyers that doesn't cost them the same as the face value rather than "real money " off the car. So going for free or discounted servicing in the future, accessories they may have in stock (car covers, key pockets,wheel and tyre insurance, etc) may be better received than money off and can result in a win-win. Just an idea.
TheHound said:
Jon39 said:
There is a premium in the price, but that must reflect the particular car.
The photos show an 'as-new' car, with odometer just 3,278 miles. Few like that around now.
I can't remember the timing of the check last time. I guess it's normally done once a price and deal in principle are agreed, right?
As convenient as it would be, I couldn't get the check done before driving 2 hours to test drive it, I assume. Which would allow me, if the check had gone well, to potentially drive away with it that day.
As convenient as it would be, I couldn't get the check done before driving 2 hours to test drive it, I assume. Which would allow me, if the check had gone well, to potentially drive away with it that day.
TheHound said:
Thank you. One final question - possibly a silly one. At this mileage is it unnecessary to get an independent check (I've used the AA in the past for this)? On the one hand, low mileage; on the other, high value car!
No such thing as a silly question if you don't know the answer. I'll be honest, as mine only had 6k miles on it, with one owner, I relied on the Timeless inspection and my own assessment. Plus I was able to get some expert advice on the car via a back door from the chassis number, so the warranty history could be interrogated.If I wasn't getting a car from a franchised dealer with a Timeless warranty, or if it were higher mileage, I'd go for an inspection but I would use an independent expert like Bamford Rose or David Appleby rather than someone like the AA - the AA would not necessarily know the weak points to check as they would get to see so few and have no history with them.
you definitely want it inspected
low mileage is always attractive, that said, 3k miles in 9 years is so little worth checking for perished hoses and that kind of thing. Check the date on the tyre sidewalls... if over 4-5yrs old thats a negotiation point (they lose eleasticity and crack). Any sign of a new battery? etc
get the flat floor panel whipped off and look for leaks - its a £3k job to replace a leaking gasket
low mileage is always attractive, that said, 3k miles in 9 years is so little worth checking for perished hoses and that kind of thing. Check the date on the tyre sidewalls... if over 4-5yrs old thats a negotiation point (they lose eleasticity and crack). Any sign of a new battery? etc
get the flat floor panel whipped off and look for leaks - its a £3k job to replace a leaking gasket
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