Another Fuse 22 thread !

Another Fuse 22 thread !

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GT2man-2

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1,042 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Am I right in saying that removing Fuse 22 reduces backpressure at low revs and in doing so reduces torque.. so it's a case of trading performance for a nicer sound ?

bogie

16,395 posts

273 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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no - its purely a device to get the car through noise regs

UH-Matt

2,172 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Performance is not involved, its purely to make a nicer noise (exhaust valve).

GT2man-2

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1,042 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Now I'm confused.

I've googled it and have seen various posts like

"The only downside to uncorking the exhaust is that you lose ~10 lb/ft of torque below 4,000 rpm (on the V8)."

"Actually there is a torque LOSS by pulling the fuse"

steve_amv8

1,886 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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GT2man-2 said:
Now I'm confused.

I've googled it and have seen various posts like

"The only downside to uncorking the exhaust is that you lose ~10 lb/ft of torque below 4,000 rpm (on the V8)."

"Actually there is a torque LOSS by pulling the fuse"
I can't say I have noticed any difference on either my previous or current cars.


XXXAngelXXX

1,711 posts

229 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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laugh engine newbie discussion......

GT2man-2

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256 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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I'm sorry XXANGELXX, if you could point me to the thread on this forum where Fuse22 and it's effect on torque has been discussed I'd be very grateful. I couldn't find it.




timhum

161 posts

184 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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GT2man-2

I've had switch fitted to both my 4.3l and 4.7l AMV8s in order to be able to select normal exhaust sound or loud as required. I have heard that there is possibly a slight torque loss with the exhaust on 'loud' but in my opinion it is not at all discernable. The switch is a modification that can be carried out by any AM Dealer at a cost of (choke, choke) around £300.00.

Tim

GT2man-2

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256 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Ah, that's useful to know, I had been quoted £500 for Works Service to do it.
That said, I think I could fabricate a remote control one myself.

I was more interested from an engineering/mechanical point of view.

GT2man-2

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256 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Something like this would do it

http://www.jab-tech.com/Remote-control-12v-DC-rela...



Cheap as chips and jobs a goodun.

MADT350

394 posts

212 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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well i'm sure my car feels more responsive at lower revs with fuse 22 removed ......?

Terminator

2,421 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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GT2man-2 said:
I had been quoted £500 for Works Service to do it.
yikes I'm sure I was charged £180 + vat when I had mine fitted by Works Service last April. Newport Pagnell's inflation rate must be the same as Zimbabwe's.

Anyhow, I don't notice any loss of torque or power, just an increase in the number of admiring glances.

smokin2

rick-dms-

1,105 posts

188 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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i have been looking through the specs and can not find anything about torque loss when removing fuse 22, secondly fitting a sports exhaust, which do not have the flaps at all, further reduces back pressure, but all the specs graphs from such as larini and quicksilver etc show a torque increase even at low revs, gt where did you get the specs you are referring too, just curious as obviously conflicting reports, i can't say when roadtesting that i have noticed a difference either way, except for that great noise at lower revs,

AMD1

342 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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With fuse 22 removed, I notice a lot of talk loss in the car......laughlaugh

Del 203

12,728 posts

250 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Terminator said:
Anyhow, I don't notice any loss of torque or power


Really? I thought you would use this as an excuse for your lack of pace biggrin

Terminator

2,421 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Del 203 said:
Terminator said:
Anyhow, I don't notice any loss of torque or power


Really? I thought you would use this as an excuse for your lack of pace biggrin
At my age, young Derek, I need no excuses, thanks.

smokin2

Del 203

12,728 posts

250 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Terminator said:
Del 203 said:
Terminator said:
Anyhow, I don't notice any loss of torque or power


Really? I thought you would use this as an excuse for your lack of pace biggrin
At my age, young Derek, I need no excuses, thanks.

smokin2
Actually, thinking about it, have you checked WS actually connected the switch ears


Terminator

2,421 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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Terminator said:
Anyhow, I don't notice any loss of torque or power, just an increase in the number of envious glances from owners of silver TVRs.

smokin2
hehe

David W.

1,912 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th March 2009
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GT2man-2 said:
Something like this would do it

http://www.jab-tech.com/Remote-control-12v-DC-rela...



Cheap as chips and jobs a goodun.
Wow what a fantastic gadget, not sure what to use it for yet but may get one just to have ready!
DW

GT2man-2

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256 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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David W. said:
Wow what a fantastic gadget, not sure what to use it for yet but may get one just to have ready!
DW
It's a remote control 12v powered relay switch, meaning you can put it inline with your Fuse 22 and use the remote fob to effectively "pull fuse" whenever you want without having to run a wire from the boot to your dash. And it's about £10, so if you're handy with some wirecutters you could do the job in no time yourself. (That particular item may not handle the ampage but you could get one that does)

Edited by GT2man-2 on Wednesday 18th March 09:38