V8V tyre valves

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EpsomJames

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790 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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I decided to take peoples advice on here and replace my seized on metal tyre valve caps with plastic ones.

None of them would undo by hand even after soaking overnight in WD40, but with mole grips I managed to remove 3 out of the 4 valve caps without damage. Unfortunately the last one was really seized and even though I was being careful the thread came away with the cap which now exposes the valve needle and prevents me from putting a cap on that valve.

Am I going to need a whole new tyre monitor transmitter kit (example link below), or can I just get a valve put on there (and still retain the tyre monitoring)?

http://www.hwmastonmartin.co.uk/parts/aston-martin...

Thanks

rick-derby-

1,105 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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the valves come with the tyre pressure monitoring sensor, the valve piece can not be brought on there own, you could swap the valves onto the old sensors if they do nor break on removal, if you have to use new sensors they will need to be programmed to the car, the other option is to replace the sensor valves with standard 414 rubber valves as used by all tyre fitting places, disconnect the tpms module (very easy to do) and manage without the system,

mallettp

11 posts

235 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Are these tyre pressure warning lights more trouble than they're worth or have I got a unique problem (warning lights coming on unpredictably and with normal pressures)?
paul

rick-derby-

1,105 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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On some cars they work perfectly fine on others they can be quite temperamental, making sure the gauge that is used to check the pressures is accurate is the biggest issue, many tyre places, petrol stations and gauges supplied for home use are not calibrated and can be surprisingly inaccurate, also the tyre pressures must be set when cold, and finally setting the tyre pressures in extremes of ambient temperature such as sub zero, will also cause incorrect settings, so the system although not perfect can be hindered further and blamed for being useless when it is actually working correctly and it is external elements that are at fault,

Else

795 posts

239 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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My experience, for what its worth:

Just after i got my V8V i took it on a 200 mile round trip during which the warning came up then dissappeared 6 times in total.

I had a quick chat with the Technician at my local dealer who advised me to check the pressures in case they were out. I checked them cold the next day and found them all to be 3psi down so i corrected them all and have had no problems since.

I can only assume that the pressure was marginal for the sensor and only flagged up a warning occasionally.

Andy

EpsomJames

Original Poster:

790 posts

247 months

Saturday 10th April 2010
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rick-derby- said:
the valves come with the tyre pressure monitoring sensor, the valve piece can not be brought on there own, you could swap the valves onto the old sensors if they do nor break on removal, if you have to use new sensors they will need to be programmed to the car, the other option is to replace the sensor valves with standard 414 rubber valves as used by all tyre fitting places, disconnect the tpms module (very easy to do) and manage without the system,
Rick, thanks for your reply.

I'm still finding it crazy that the valve core (insert) cannot be bought by itself whereas on nearly every other car manufacturer that uses a TPMS you can buy a replacement valve body or core without the need for an entire new sensor/valve part. I know (after a bit of research) that on the V8V the TPMS system is (was?) made by SmarTire however according to their website they have now abandonded the passenger car market (http://www.smartire.com/automotive). Maybe this explains the lack of replacement parts?

So, as the only way seems to be to buy a complete new TPMS sensor/valve part, are you saying that it might be possible to swap the valve core over for the broken one so it works without the need to reprogram the entire TPMS system (which I've been told would require all 4 wheels and tyres off to get the other TPMS module numbers to reprogram)? And then just throw away the parts not used.

Thanks

oldboyswithtoys

65 posts

178 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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the best way to remove seized on metal valve caps is to carefully grind the metal cap on one side using a dremel until u can see the thread of the valve then the cap will come off easily without breaking anything .but as yours are broken already this will not help. but some dealers will be able to help supply just a valve core for you to fit on your old sensor and save the need for reprograming the system or buying new sensor .

EpsomJames

Original Poster:

790 posts

247 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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oldboyswithtoys said:
the best way to remove seized on metal valve caps is to carefully grind the metal cap on one side using a dremel until u can see the thread of the valve then the cap will come off easily without breaking anything .but as yours are broken already this will not help. but some dealers will be able to help supply just a valve core for you to fit on your old sensor and save the need for reprograming the system or buying new sensor .
Do'h, wish I'd thought of using my Dremel, that's a good idea. TBH I was very surpised to see the tread on the valve snap off so easily.

I'll see if any dealers will sell me a valve core as the quote I've had so far to replace (this is for 1 valve remember) is nigh on £500. eek

bogie

16,399 posts

273 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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thats plain stupid, if you cant just get the valve for £10 like every other manufacturer frown

at that price, id be going down kwik fit, get a regular valve fitted for £10 and forget about it ....far too much hassle and expense..

EpsomJames

Original Poster:

790 posts

247 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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WOHOO! I got this fixed...and it only cost me £10. biggrin

Huge thanks to Rick for sorting me out with me a spare valve body FOC (used but it works just fine). Cheers. beer

Just returned from my local friendly tyre place and 15 mins and a tenner later it's all sorted.

993Targa

866 posts

240 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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Hey well done, bet that felt good
A big clap to Rick again.

John

bogie

16,399 posts

273 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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its nice to have a helpful enthusiast community smile

Steve*B

670 posts

209 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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993Targa said:
A big clap to Rick again.
....and again.

Rick sorted out the aircon for me Wednesday.

rick-derby-

1,105 posts

188 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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Hi James glad it all worked out for you,