Clutch clipping - replacement cost?

Clutch clipping - replacement cost?

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Zod

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35,295 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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SLIPPING, NOT CLIPPING!

I had a feeling it was going, but the dealer's delivery driver has returned it three times in the last three weeks, parked it in reverse uphill and when I've returned to it hours later, I've smelt the clutch lining from twenty yards away.

Sure enough, this morning, it started to slip under acceleration. How much am I looking at? Presumably it won't be covered under warranty.

Edited by Zod on Wednesday 14th April 10:53

bogie

16,386 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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dealer - maybe £3K

indy - maybe £2K

..give Rick a call at DMS for a proper price...and shop around dealers -the labour rate can vary by £50 an hour !

rick-derby-

1,105 posts

187 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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Clutches are normally classed as wear and tear items and as such are not normally covered by the warranty, but there are exceptions if it has been caused by a defect or mechanical failure of the item, unfortunately when it is slipping it is usually that it is worn,

When quoted make sure it includes not only the clutch, but the flywheel spigot bearing and release bearing, there are also various gaskets as well so stipulate a fully inclusive price so as to get a fair comparison, it is very important to replace these other items at the same time,


Zod

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35,295 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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Thanks, Rick. Very useful.

V8VKK

354 posts

201 months

Wednesday 14th April 2010
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Rick changed my clutch today (thanks Rick!), there is a lot more to the job than I imagined, the transaxle and propshaft all have to be removed

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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V8VKK said:
Rick changed my clutch today (thanks Rick!), there is a lot more to the job than I imagined, the transaxle and propshaft all have to be removed
Did you see the torque tube when it was removed? I love the way that there's a big Aston Martin logo on the side even though no-one will ever normally see it...

Murph7355

37,716 posts

256 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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How many miles have you guys done?

Also Rick, how's the lightweight item working out?

revs88

109 posts

186 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Just out of interest how long does it take to replace a clutch?

Zod

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35,295 posts

258 months

Friday 16th April 2010
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Murph7355 said:
How many miles have you guys done?

Also Rick, how's the lightweight item working out?
12k, but the first owner did most of the damage.

rick-derby-

1,105 posts

187 months

Friday 16th April 2010
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Kevin your very welcome

murph Initial reports were not as good as I hoped but tests are still on going

revs88 the labour time for the standard manual is about 8 hours and the sport shift a little longer,if everything goes well and as expected realistically one tech should take about 5 to 6 hours,

John I know what you mean about the Aston martin wings on the torque tube I am sure I have a picture somewhere I will try to find it,

V8VKK

354 posts

201 months

Friday 16th April 2010
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Murph7355 said:
How many miles have you guys done?

Also Rick, how's the lightweight item working out?
23,000 for mine

Murph7355

37,716 posts

256 months

Friday 16th April 2010
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Zod/V8VKK - are you both in manual cars?

Rick - what's been the problem on the lightweight? Smooth driving etc?

Stuart Dickinson

998 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th April 2010
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Murph7355 said:
Zod/V8VKK - are you both in manual cars?

Rick - what's been the problem on the lightweight? Smooth driving etc?
Hi Murph, not sure what Rick is referring to but we haven't had any problems with the clutch, apart from the guys didn't change the spigot bearing when they swapped it out and that was making a bit of noise. We wanted to do some more extensive testing before we offered it to the general public so a second unit is going on a car in Florida next week which spends a lot of time at the track, etc.

We wanted to get it into a car that would get thrashed a bit and put some miles on it. As far as the action, I haven't driven the 1st car that had it installed but all three people who have commented that it was surprisingly easy to modulate and felt very direct and rewarding.

ETA:
So just to confirm, there's no 'problem' and we were very happy with the results so far, but wanted to be 100 percent before we released it - ie, I want our customer in Florida to thrash the living daylights out of it!

Edited by Stuart Dickinson on Saturday 17th April 22:39

Zod

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35,295 posts

258 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Murph7355 said:
Zod/V8VKK - are you both in manual cars?

Rick - what's been the problem on the lightweight? Smooth driving etc?
Yes. DB9 - only manual or TT2, no Sportshift.

bogie

16,386 posts

272 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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44K miles on my 4.3 manual so far on original clutch (touch wood!) smile

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Sorry for the thread prune chaps. I've removed a certain members dubious post, along with subsequent comment/ posts relating to it.

Zod

Original Poster:

35,295 posts

258 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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bogie said:
44K miles on my 4.3 manual so far on original clutch (touch wood!) smile
I could have kept mine going for another year or two, but a [insert dealer's name] delivery driver has managed to kill it.

rick-derby-

1,105 posts

187 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Garlick said:
Sorry for the thread prune chaps. I've removed a certain members dubious post, along with subsequent comment/ posts relating to it.
Hi Garlick and thank you for your concern, I read the post and comments earlier, which was obviously directed at myself and business, I chose not to comment and would have no problem with them being reinstated, I do not feel the need to enter into an obvious battle of words, We have nothing to prove or explain and thanks for all the people who stood our corner, anybody looking through this forum would find a balanced view based on owner comments, so with this in mind I actually find the comments a compliment as to be taken as a serious contender against a much bigger organisation.

Edited by rick-derby- on Sunday 18th April 21:22

s.m.h.

5,728 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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JohnG1 said:
V8VKK said:
Rick changed my clutch today (thanks Rick!), there is a lot more to the job than I imagined, the transaxle and propshaft all have to be removed
Did you see the torque tube when it was removed? I love the way that there's a big Aston Martin logo on the side even though no-one will ever normally see it...
Ive 2 of these as "hat stands" at the workshop smile

Not quite so "nice" when all you need is a new prop but find its unavailable on its own, just as a prop/tube package.... circa £2k+.....

I changed a 10k kms clutch on one of our race cars a few weeks ago. Valeo plate with AMR flywheel, standard release. There was some wear, but considering I replaced a road car clutch at 6k (along with stories of cars having had 3 clutches in 12k miles) then it had stood up really well. TBH if it wasnt for the fact I swapped the 4.3 for a 4.7 it might still be in the car, though false economy not to change.
Oddly enough the AMR clutch is nicer in use than the road car (IMO)! No smells on reverse and as stated, 10k of race use (2 broken props as well). Cost parts wise is the difference, though if you go flywheel/clutch/bearing its around a third dearer IIRC