£40-50k, which Aston?
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Murph7355 said:
tonyhall38 said:
db9.....then you can look at all the little v8 vantages in your rear view mirror as you leave em behind......
I'm surprised DB9 owners feel the need to be out in front. Unless it's so they can be at the front of the pension queue 
I would wager there is little/no difference between the two performance wise, on a mix of A to B routes. Just different characters getting there.
tonyhall38 said:
Murph7355 said:
tonyhall38 said:
db9.....then you can look at all the little v8 vantages in your rear view mirror as you leave em behind......
I'm surprised DB9 owners feel the need to be out in front. Unless it's so they can be at the front of the pension queue I would wager there is little/no difference between the two performance wise, on a mix of A to B routes. Just different characters getting there.
Murph7355 said:
tonyhall38 said:
db9.....then you can look at all the little v8 vantages in your rear view mirror as you leave em behind......
I'm surprised DB9 owners feel the need to be out in front. Unless it's so they can be at the front of the pension queue I would wager there is little/no difference between the two performance wise, on a mix of A to B routes. Just different characters getting there.
tonyhall38 said:
think you will find that those figures would depend on the drivers......straight run my db9 leaves 4.7 v8v behind...infact have seen v12 db7's quicker than v8v's.....try Dunsfold this year..!!
owned both and i agree there is very little between the db7 and the v8v....in a straight line.round the twisty bits the v8v is leagues ahead of the 7.so much more exploitable.in answer to the op,it's down to which driving experience you want.db7 was too gt for me so chopped it in for a v8v.had this car for over three years now which is a record for me,and by some way i might add!polar8 said:
I'll go against the crowd here and say Vanquish. You'll need to take care looking for the right car but you'll not regret it if it's a good one when you open the garage door and start her up. Has the others beat for looks and sound.
Not really the best forey into Aston ownership with a limited budget IMHO - the time-bomb of the next clutch/hydraulic rebuild is always ticking away.DB7GT would be an excellent introduction.
Yup!, for that budget you can get a quite rare DB7 GT, with only 190 ever built you have a somewhat exclusive car to those who can spot the difference between the GT and the Vantage models.
With the left over funds you can have any remedial work completed and fully services so your book is stamped up.
Also someone from Aston gave a talk not long ago and they highlighted the GT as the one to buy ;-)
if a DB7 Vantage can give the V8V a run for it's money then the GT should fair even better with it's upgraded suspension, brakes and power.
Although I will admit the GT still ain't a car you can throw around corners too easily it certainly get's you there, slows you down and exits them with plenty of steam. :-)
Also AM don;t give a top speed for the GT, they simply state a few figures depending where you read..
Above 186mph
186mph +
above 185mph
and the owners manual simply states 186mph
However with a little math and knowing the upgraded final drive ratio it would if allowed reach 192mph.
With the left over funds you can have any remedial work completed and fully services so your book is stamped up.
Also someone from Aston gave a talk not long ago and they highlighted the GT as the one to buy ;-)
if a DB7 Vantage can give the V8V a run for it's money then the GT should fair even better with it's upgraded suspension, brakes and power.
Although I will admit the GT still ain't a car you can throw around corners too easily it certainly get's you there, slows you down and exits them with plenty of steam. :-)
Also AM don;t give a top speed for the GT, they simply state a few figures depending where you read..
Above 186mph
186mph +
above 185mph
and the owners manual simply states 186mph
However with a little math and knowing the upgraded final drive ratio it would if allowed reach 192mph.
Folks, doen't it seem a bit strange for Aston owners to be debating fractions of a second of quoted results as being 'better' of 'leaving miles behind'. I thought we bought these things for the overall way they drive, look and make you feel. So I for one would be making sure I made my decision purely on subjective criteria.
Or else save some cash an pick any number of cars quicker to 60.
Or else save some cash an pick any number of cars quicker to 60.
if you want to go fast, in a straight line, for your money, you dont buy an Aston ...none of them are particularly quick at the price point now are they? 
You want a big GT, get a DB9
you want a sportscar to drive most B/A roads in the UK, then a Vantage is more nimble
Fancy a trackday once a month, a Vantage is more durable I would say, and certainly less expensive to do it in
that was my decision process...and yes, I did do the day at Millbrook driving them all
you dont notice the 0.1sec (whatever) in the real world, Id say its the torque of the V12 you miss, it makes for a more lazy driving style if you like
The Vantage you may have to drop down a couple of gears and rev it like a 4 pot to get it really moving
But then, isnt that the difference between most "sportscars" and "GTs" ...the GT is a more relaxed way of getting you there, just as quick
You want a big GT, get a DB9
you want a sportscar to drive most B/A roads in the UK, then a Vantage is more nimble
Fancy a trackday once a month, a Vantage is more durable I would say, and certainly less expensive to do it in
that was my decision process...and yes, I did do the day at Millbrook driving them all
you dont notice the 0.1sec (whatever) in the real world, Id say its the torque of the V12 you miss, it makes for a more lazy driving style if you like
The Vantage you may have to drop down a couple of gears and rev it like a 4 pot to get it really moving
But then, isnt that the difference between most "sportscars" and "GTs" ...the GT is a more relaxed way of getting you there, just as quick
High days and holidays = any Aston
and minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
and minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
f328nvl said:
High days and holidays = any Aston
and minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
What you don't pay in depreciation, you pay in running costs and aggro.and minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
And the gearbox is a very good tool to overcome lower torque figures
I didn't buy my Aston to get the "best numbers." Astons are so much more than that. But, since this has been brought up, the info given should be at least mostly accurate.
f328, a 4.3 V8V is not "gutless" -- that's just absurd, however subjective the term "gutless" is. Not the quickest thing out there, but surely not gutless. As Bogie pointed out, the 4.3 doesn't have the torque, so it needs to be revved to find the performance, but it's there of you work at it a bit. (Love your Vantage Volante, BTW.)
As Tony correctly says, the driver has a lot to do with the performance a car actually delivers. Also, and equally obviously, there are car-to-car variations. Nonetheless... The acceleration figures from various magazines should provide a pretty good basis for comparison, and the 4.7 V8V is quicker than the 450hp DB9 -- consistently. I haven't seen independent test figures for the 470hp DB9 yet. The 4.7 V8V actually gets very close to the figures of the DBS up to 100 mph. Angel's experience with his DBS supports this (he has posted as much), and my own recent experience in my 4.7 does as well. DB7 Vantages and GTs are great cars, but they are not as quick as a V8V in a straight line, even a 4.3 (except perhaps at very high speed), and the 4.7 is a good deal quicker than the 4.3, and the 4.7 has lots of torque. Yes, I realize that 50K won't buy a 4.7.
Each of the cars the OP is considering offers a fantastic experience, but each offers a different experience. Drive each, pick your favorite, and enjoy the process -- you can't go wrong.
f328, a 4.3 V8V is not "gutless" -- that's just absurd, however subjective the term "gutless" is. Not the quickest thing out there, but surely not gutless. As Bogie pointed out, the 4.3 doesn't have the torque, so it needs to be revved to find the performance, but it's there of you work at it a bit. (Love your Vantage Volante, BTW.)
As Tony correctly says, the driver has a lot to do with the performance a car actually delivers. Also, and equally obviously, there are car-to-car variations. Nonetheless... The acceleration figures from various magazines should provide a pretty good basis for comparison, and the 4.7 V8V is quicker than the 450hp DB9 -- consistently. I haven't seen independent test figures for the 470hp DB9 yet. The 4.7 V8V actually gets very close to the figures of the DBS up to 100 mph. Angel's experience with his DBS supports this (he has posted as much), and my own recent experience in my 4.7 does as well. DB7 Vantages and GTs are great cars, but they are not as quick as a V8V in a straight line, even a 4.3 (except perhaps at very high speed), and the 4.7 is a good deal quicker than the 4.3, and the 4.7 has lots of torque. Yes, I realize that 50K won't buy a 4.7.
Each of the cars the OP is considering offers a fantastic experience, but each offers a different experience. Drive each, pick your favorite, and enjoy the process -- you can't go wrong.
f328nvl said:
High days and holidays = any Aston
and minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
the question is,however,how much time have you actually spent in a v8v?i think because clarkson and his little mate made comments about its grunt everyone and his dog repeats this "fact" as biblical proof.i think gutless is a bit over the top for this car.i've had a lot of (very)quick cars in the past and it doesn't leave me needing any more 99% of the timeand minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
tuscaneer said:
f328nvl said:
High days and holidays = any Aston
and minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
the question is,however,how much time have you actually spent in a v8v?i think because clarkson and his little mate made comments about its grunt everyone and his dog repeats this "fact" as biblical proof.i think gutless is a bit over the top for this car.i've had a lot of (very)quick cars in the past and it doesn't leave me needing any more 99% of the timeand minimal depreciation = DB7 (GT or Vantage) or Vanquish
£50k = Great DB7 GT or cheap Vanquish
Cheap Vanquish = Road to bankruptcy
Hence DB7 GT.
DB9 = Depreciation although Volante is a maybe (but have to have an auto as so few manuals around)
V8V @ 50K = 4.3v8 = Gutless = unhappy
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