Discussion
Ephraim said:
andrew186 said:
i personally couldnt live with that lack of power / torque.. even as a daily.
Really? Why? What is it, in day to day driving, that requires mountains of power and torque? I'm genuinely intrigued.
Ephraim said:
I test drove a manual today at my local Toyota dealer. Most of what David1976 said is pretty much spot on. Some additional thoughts:
The feel from the car was excellent, especially for electrically assisted power steering. It felt like a recent mark of mx-5 in terms of its handling and feedback.
It is, in my opinion, plenty fast enough for day to day. Like my RX-8 it needs to be in the correct gear at the correct time to go well, but that's half the fun, surely?
It's not as fast as the RX-8 though. Straight line powerhouse, this isn't.
Through the corners it's beautifully composed. It also coped well with some pretty rutted back roads.
It's quiet on a cruise. Refined, even. Under hard acceleration it sounds nice, but I'd have liked it louder. I kept the windows down for most of the drive.
The interior is brilliant, except for the stereo/infotainment thing. It doesn't look like it belongs, instead looking more like they cut a hole for it to go into. And there's no option to delete it. It's too big, underfeatured unless you buy the nav upgrade and generally I'm not a fan.
Leather + Alcantara seats were very comfy indeed. Seating position is excellent.
I think that it would be a pain to fit an isofix base and infant/child seat in there, and a double pain getting the child in and out. But I think it would be possible. Kids in booster seats would probably be great.
I managed to unstick the rear on a roundabout with a bit of extra throttle. Felt quite communicative, and through the twisties it was easy to adjust it on the throttle. This was in the dry (ish).
Overall, I thought it was great. And with the nice seats and metallic paint it comes in at about £27k which seemed pretty reasonable. I think, and hope, that they'll sell a ton of them (though I understand that each dealer has a set number they are allowed to sell initially). The only worry is that the "Moar Powwwwweeerrrr" crowd will scare buyers away. We'll see.
Agree with this. It would have looked great with something a little more "retro", if you will. To match the 80's/90's 7 bar lcd clock (which is a nice touch).The feel from the car was excellent, especially for electrically assisted power steering. It felt like a recent mark of mx-5 in terms of its handling and feedback.
It is, in my opinion, plenty fast enough for day to day. Like my RX-8 it needs to be in the correct gear at the correct time to go well, but that's half the fun, surely?
It's not as fast as the RX-8 though. Straight line powerhouse, this isn't.
Through the corners it's beautifully composed. It also coped well with some pretty rutted back roads.
It's quiet on a cruise. Refined, even. Under hard acceleration it sounds nice, but I'd have liked it louder. I kept the windows down for most of the drive.
The interior is brilliant, except for the stereo/infotainment thing. It doesn't look like it belongs, instead looking more like they cut a hole for it to go into. And there's no option to delete it. It's too big, underfeatured unless you buy the nav upgrade and generally I'm not a fan.
Leather + Alcantara seats were very comfy indeed. Seating position is excellent.
I think that it would be a pain to fit an isofix base and infant/child seat in there, and a double pain getting the child in and out. But I think it would be possible. Kids in booster seats would probably be great.
I managed to unstick the rear on a roundabout with a bit of extra throttle. Felt quite communicative, and through the twisties it was easy to adjust it on the throttle. This was in the dry (ish).
Overall, I thought it was great. And with the nice seats and metallic paint it comes in at about £27k which seemed pretty reasonable. I think, and hope, that they'll sell a ton of them (though I understand that each dealer has a set number they are allowed to sell initially). The only worry is that the "Moar Powwwwweeerrrr" crowd will scare buyers away. We'll see.
khevolution said:
got a hi res link to that?
1200px wide here:http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7576606712_9a08...
LordGrover said:
Is it just me or is the bonnet elongated in that photo?
Wide angle lens was used, I wanted it to look a little like an LF-A 
Don't hammer me too hard for it looking 'fake', it's just a bit of fun!
Just got back
one word WOW!!!
Went to Charleshurst in Newtonabbey, Belfast.
Unfortunately couldn't turn the ESP off as its tipping it down, but still managed some wheel spin and a bit of sideways action when pulling out.
I thought that would be the end of the drive, but nope, got told to press on even harder.
Below 4000rpm nothing really happens, but above, its a different car entirely. It may only have 200BHP but by sticking to 3rd and 4th we were flying on the country lanes in Mallusk. (I won't mention the speeds) Just having pure fun, hitting apex's and snorting the centre white line.
However when turning at slow corners (for example turning at junctions) you really feel the electronic steering load up, it was a weird sensation at first but I soon got used to it.
I will admit to it feeling slightly cheap inside, the plastics look lightweight and when I banged the headlining it felt very thin. But the ergonomics are spot on, I felt like I could confidently place the car and the seats (heated leather and alcantra) were amazing.
My size 10 feet could heel and toe and the gear change felt amazing. I'll admit i'm no driving god just done the odd track day and go Go-Karting with my mates, my car history includes a Mitsi FTO and being insured on and driving a Cayene Turbo, Z4M, Civic Type R & Mini Cooper and this felt better, more fun or useable than all of them.
I drove my mates GTR once and almost wet myself, the GT86 was just pure fun.
After discussions with the GF (we're saving for a house) i've been told I can get one in Dec/Jan
one word WOW!!!
Went to Charleshurst in Newtonabbey, Belfast.
Unfortunately couldn't turn the ESP off as its tipping it down, but still managed some wheel spin and a bit of sideways action when pulling out.
I thought that would be the end of the drive, but nope, got told to press on even harder.
Below 4000rpm nothing really happens, but above, its a different car entirely. It may only have 200BHP but by sticking to 3rd and 4th we were flying on the country lanes in Mallusk. (I won't mention the speeds) Just having pure fun, hitting apex's and snorting the centre white line.
However when turning at slow corners (for example turning at junctions) you really feel the electronic steering load up, it was a weird sensation at first but I soon got used to it.
I will admit to it feeling slightly cheap inside, the plastics look lightweight and when I banged the headlining it felt very thin. But the ergonomics are spot on, I felt like I could confidently place the car and the seats (heated leather and alcantra) were amazing.
My size 10 feet could heel and toe and the gear change felt amazing. I'll admit i'm no driving god just done the odd track day and go Go-Karting with my mates, my car history includes a Mitsi FTO and being insured on and driving a Cayene Turbo, Z4M, Civic Type R & Mini Cooper and this felt better, more fun or useable than all of them.
I drove my mates GTR once and almost wet myself, the GT86 was just pure fun.
After discussions with the GF (we're saving for a house) i've been told I can get one in Dec/Jan
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