Evo IV or X??

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Grindle

764 posts

85 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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The X was meant to be a new dawn for the Lancer Evo and it never happened because it was still light years away from an M3 for example, on quality and fit and finish, etc. The best ever Evo by far was the 9. The best 9 by far was the 360. the very long named ''Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution lX 360 MR FQ By HKS''. It had a better power band than the Mark 8 FQ 400 and was the perfect mix of power and usability. My one was mildly tuned to 450 bhp which was inexpensive to do. Don't believe the hype about the Makinnen being the best one, the Evo got better progressively from the start to the 9, then it went wrong with the X as they were after the wrong buyers.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

206 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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The X is also heavier and doesnt cut into the corners as well.


KarlMac

4,480 posts

142 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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9 every time.

Which version of the 9 really depends on your budget. The JDM 9MR is the one to have but comes with the associated price tag.

Grindle

764 posts

85 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Whenever i think of an Evo i think of the 1,012, yes 1,012 bhp one had at the Ace Cafe. Yes it had a 2.4 bore and stroker kit but even so over a thousand bhp from a single turbo 4 cylinder motor that small is ridiculous. I presume it had turbo lag on a par with second class Royal Mail delivery.

KarlMac

4,480 posts

142 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Grindle said:
Whenever i think of an Evo i think of the 1,012, yes 1,012 bhp one had at the Ace Cafe. Yes it had a 2.4 bore and stroker kit but even so over a thousand bhp from a single turbo 4 cylinder motor that small is ridiculous. I presume it had turbo lag on a par with second class Royal Mail delivery.
If that's car I'm thinking of it's a bit 'infamous' in the tuning scene. From what I understand it made that power once on a very generous dyno with race fuel, cold temps etc... The car doesn't go anywhere other than Ace Cafe @20mph so makes people fell like it's a waste.

For bonkers Evo 9 have a look on YouTube for Greek firm 'Extreme Tuners' Evo. This is a massive power car (32psi on a GTX55 making peak power at 11,000rpm) and gets used properly (think it currently has 1/4 mile record at 7.14)

https://youtu.be/IW_hFkLD2_k

HedgeyGedgey

1,282 posts

95 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Grindle said:
Whenever i think of an Evo i think of the 1,012, yes 1,012 bhp one had at the Ace Cafe. Yes it had a 2.4 bore and stroker kit but even so over a thousand bhp from a single turbo 4 cylinder motor that small is ridiculous. I presume it had turbo lag on a par with second class Royal Mail delivery.
Not necessarily tbh, the new age of turbos with billet wheels etc will mean that thing will be on full boost by 4500rpm-ish. Considering oem the td05 is 3300rpm, and likely to pull all the way to 9k+. 4g63's party piece is to hit a hell a lot of torque down low

HedgeyGedgey

1,282 posts

95 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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KarlMac said:
If that's car I'm thinking of it's a bit 'infamous' in the tuning scene. From what I understand it made that power once on a very generous dyno with race fuel, cold temps etc... The car doesn't go anywhere other than Ace Cafe @20mph so makes people fell like it's a waste.

For bonkers Evo 9 have a look on YouTube for Greek firm 'Extreme Tuners' Evo. This is a massive power car (32psi on a GTX55 making peak power at 11,000rpm) and gets used properly (think it currently has 1/4 mile record at 7.14)

https://youtu.be/IW_hFkLD2_k
To burst your slight bubble, that car has the footage sped up. This is the current record, look how its all over the road with 1300whp. Theres no chance the other wone with 2000+ stays straight
https:/youtu.be/Oy0eQh8TYgk

Heaveho

5,307 posts

175 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Yep, the Greek firm are known for all the wrong reasons on the MLR, in no small part due to their " forum representative ", thankfully now banned from there, I believe!

PorkRind

3,053 posts

206 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Isnt it all about Norris Designs twin charged solution now?!

HedgeyGedgey

1,282 posts

95 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Heaveho said:
Yep, the Greek firm are known for all the wrong reasons on the MLR, in no small part due to their " forum representative ", thankfully now banned from there, I believe!
Are you actually banned? rofl remember your run ins with Aidy lol

jonah35

3,940 posts

158 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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I know you didn't ask but id get a makinen as it's the best and most iconic and will probably appreciate in value too

Rob197

781 posts

147 months

Thursday 19th October 2017
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Im getting my first this week, Evo 8 MR fq340. Cant wait!

PorkFan

292 posts

181 months

Sunday 22nd October 2017
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I’d gor for a nice fresh import 9 GT (as I currently have as the wife’s car) the one we have has 157k km’s so near enough 100k miles On it and underneath looks like a 6 month old car. Compare that to our previous 9 fq300 which was a UK model and only had 40k, it was already going rusty in several places and that was 4 years ago

The GT model also comes with the much stronger 5 speed box ( which is a closely stacked 1-4 and then a longer 5th for motorway )and has the ‘RS’ proper mechanical LSD at the rear rather than the troublesome SAYC rear diff.

Downsides to the GT are the 70/71 series turbo can’t be pushed quite as hard as the 80 series on the other 9’s, but It’s much easier and cheaper to hybrid or change the turbo than change the box and rear diff if you end up wanting big power.

You should get a really nice GT for 16k, and the other 2-4K you have left over should be enough for a genuine 400bhp. (Cams, injectors, turbo, clutch, and rods all pretty much maxed out at this point so going further is expensive.) and a nice set of brakes.

Condition over mileage every time with these cars....our 100k example is twice the car our old 40k one was

lawrencec

199 posts

193 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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I was pretty disappointed with the X it just looked too tame the only good thing was the Rockford fosgate sound system in the one I collected