GT86/BRZ Owners reviews?
Discussion
Been looking at GT86s/BRZs recents and wanted to see if anyone on here is willing to give some ownership reviews as may potentially purchase one in the future. I Know that they are kinda renowned for being "under powered" but i feel as though thats something that could be fixed 
Any information provided on them what so ever would be appreciated!
Freddie
Any information provided on them what so ever would be appreciated!
Freddie
I've got one Freddie (GT86), what do you want to know?
I've had mine for just over three years now and has only needed consumables so far be that servicing or tyres. I do drive a bit sedately for the most part and I don't find it particularly has a lack of power. There's a torque dip around the MOT holding revs for emissions, which mine still has, but that can be remapped out as some owners do.
I had an issue with the air con, it basically lost all the gas, but seems to be holding it now after a warranty refill.
Niggles, rear window gets condensation inside easily, I'm not alone with this but not sure if they all do.
Modifications on mine are very little. People complain about the standard stereo (I've got nav), and I find it fine. I swapped out the single USB and 3.5mm aux in for a dual USB and I've fitted a (very loud but you get used to it) Invidia catback exhaust. Plenty of other options if you want to mess with such things.
The high level brake light is on the parcel shelf and obstructs the rear view. I removed mine and bought a cheap LED strip bar and mounted it to the roof lining at the back so I have a bit more visibility. That's relatively easy to do if the existing light bugs you.
Other than that, I enjoy driving it, it's comfy, rear seats are generally useless other than for storage, short distances, or you're all a very small family height wise. Boot space is ample, car handles well and with safety aids on is quite protective of lary driving, not a bad thing for someone with little talent like me. As mentioned, I find the power sufficient, it gets away quick enough from standing and I otherwise tend to drive within both speed limits and conditions. It likes cornering, with a well sighted corner being far more fun for me than how fast I can go.
I like the interior, but I like 90s Japanese plastic interiors too which some abhor.
Feel free to ask specifics if you have some
I've had mine for just over three years now and has only needed consumables so far be that servicing or tyres. I do drive a bit sedately for the most part and I don't find it particularly has a lack of power. There's a torque dip around the MOT holding revs for emissions, which mine still has, but that can be remapped out as some owners do.
I had an issue with the air con, it basically lost all the gas, but seems to be holding it now after a warranty refill.
Niggles, rear window gets condensation inside easily, I'm not alone with this but not sure if they all do.
Modifications on mine are very little. People complain about the standard stereo (I've got nav), and I find it fine. I swapped out the single USB and 3.5mm aux in for a dual USB and I've fitted a (very loud but you get used to it) Invidia catback exhaust. Plenty of other options if you want to mess with such things.
The high level brake light is on the parcel shelf and obstructs the rear view. I removed mine and bought a cheap LED strip bar and mounted it to the roof lining at the back so I have a bit more visibility. That's relatively easy to do if the existing light bugs you.
Other than that, I enjoy driving it, it's comfy, rear seats are generally useless other than for storage, short distances, or you're all a very small family height wise. Boot space is ample, car handles well and with safety aids on is quite protective of lary driving, not a bad thing for someone with little talent like me. As mentioned, I find the power sufficient, it gets away quick enough from standing and I otherwise tend to drive within both speed limits and conditions. It likes cornering, with a well sighted corner being far more fun for me than how fast I can go.
I like the interior, but I like 90s Japanese plastic interiors too which some abhor.
Feel free to ask specifics if you have some
Hanslow said:
I've got one Freddie (GT86), what do you want to know?
I've had mine for just over three years now and has only needed consumables so far be that servicing or tyres. I do drive a bit sedately for the most part and I don't find it particularly has a lack of power. There's a torque dip around the MOT holding revs for emissions, which mine still has, but that can be remapped out as some owners do.
I had an issue with the air con, it basically lost all the gas, but seems to be holding it now after a warranty refill.
Niggles, rear window gets condensation inside easily, I'm not alone with this but not sure if they all do.
Modifications on mine are very little. People complain about the standard stereo (I've got nav), and I find it fine. I swapped out the single USB and 3.5mm aux in for a dual USB and I've fitted a (very loud but you get used to it) Invidia catback exhaust. Plenty of other options if you want to mess with such things.
The high level brake light is on the parcel shelf and obstructs the rear view. I removed mine and bought a cheap LED strip bar and mounted it to the roof lining at the back so I have a bit more visibility. That's relatively easy to do if the existing light bugs you.
Other than that, I enjoy driving it, it's comfy, rear seats are generally useless other than for storage, short distances, or you're all a very small family height wise. Boot space is ample, car handles well and with safety aids on is quite protective of lary driving, not a bad thing for someone with little talent like me. As mentioned, I find the power sufficient, it gets away quick enough from standing and I otherwise tend to drive within both speed limits and conditions. It likes cornering, with a well sighted corner being far more fun for me than how fast I can go.
I like the interior, but I like 90s Japanese plastic interiors too which some abhor.
Feel free to ask specifics if you have some
Cheers for Getting back to me Hanslow! I've had mine for just over three years now and has only needed consumables so far be that servicing or tyres. I do drive a bit sedately for the most part and I don't find it particularly has a lack of power. There's a torque dip around the MOT holding revs for emissions, which mine still has, but that can be remapped out as some owners do.
I had an issue with the air con, it basically lost all the gas, but seems to be holding it now after a warranty refill.
Niggles, rear window gets condensation inside easily, I'm not alone with this but not sure if they all do.
Modifications on mine are very little. People complain about the standard stereo (I've got nav), and I find it fine. I swapped out the single USB and 3.5mm aux in for a dual USB and I've fitted a (very loud but you get used to it) Invidia catback exhaust. Plenty of other options if you want to mess with such things.
The high level brake light is on the parcel shelf and obstructs the rear view. I removed mine and bought a cheap LED strip bar and mounted it to the roof lining at the back so I have a bit more visibility. That's relatively easy to do if the existing light bugs you.
Other than that, I enjoy driving it, it's comfy, rear seats are generally useless other than for storage, short distances, or you're all a very small family height wise. Boot space is ample, car handles well and with safety aids on is quite protective of lary driving, not a bad thing for someone with little talent like me. As mentioned, I find the power sufficient, it gets away quick enough from standing and I otherwise tend to drive within both speed limits and conditions. It likes cornering, with a well sighted corner being far more fun for me than how fast I can go.
I like the interior, but I like 90s Japanese plastic interiors too which some abhor.
Feel free to ask specifics if you have some
Do you drive it every day?, the reason i wanted to get to know just some general information about the car is that i was thinking about getting either one of these or a golf gti (mk7.5) as a daily, but i also like to go for a drive quite often, so wanted something which could also be dynamic, but also dailyable (if thats a word). I realise that they are both very different cars however the idea of the 86/brz being a 2 door sports car thats rwd but could also be used daily appeals to me quite a lot. Also just want to know if its good on petrol if your able to provide the information, as thats also kinda important when running it daily!
thanks for the insight into your ownership over the past couple of years though, It is much appreciated!
Yeah it's my daily runner. I've got a set of winter wheels for it, some old Subaru Impreza ones with Nokians on but I've not really needed them to be fair. When the snow has been really bad I've stayed at home and I'm fortunate enough that I can work from home if I'm unable to get in to work. I've otherwise been able to get out to the shops when needed.
If it helps, I've had a MkIV Golf Gti and a MkV diesel GTD and whilst both were fun and far more torquey, for me the 86 is a lot more fun to drive. To get the most out of it, you do have to drive it, holding on to revs a bit more and planning gear changes and manoeuvres a bit more than just a point and squirt style of driving.
They are recommended to be run on 98 ron, I run mine on Shell vpower and am getting about 33-35 mpg on a daily commute, around thirteen miles with a mix of about half of that being thirty to forty limits and the rest being seventy. I've just got off my fat arse and checked, I've never reset the counters in the car, so apart from it maybe resetting itself anytime that I may have disconnected the battery, it's showing an average of 35mpg.
With the rear seats down, there's a decent sized boot area, enough for four wheels, which I think was one of the design remits to be able to carry a set to a track, swap them, do the track day, swap them back and drive home. I only know from getting my winter wheels shod with tyres. The only downside slightly to the load area is the boot entry size isn't the full width like some cars, it tapers slightly, so you have to be sure some items are going to fit before taking it for loading up. I've been alright though, I can't think of anything that I couldn't get in, but some things needed to go in at an angle.
It's certainly liveable with as a daily, or has been for me. Have a look at my garage on here, apart from the Caterham and the current Eunos, all have been daily runners so you can (sort of) see what I'm comparing it too. I have to say, out of all the cars bar the Caterham, it's the one I've owned the longest and whilst I've got ideas to change it next year, I'm not actually bored of the car, which is what drove a lot of the other changes.
If you've got any more questions, fire away. If you're anywhere near Matlock in Derbyshire I don't mind meeting up if you want a bit more of a poke around.
If it helps, I've had a MkIV Golf Gti and a MkV diesel GTD and whilst both were fun and far more torquey, for me the 86 is a lot more fun to drive. To get the most out of it, you do have to drive it, holding on to revs a bit more and planning gear changes and manoeuvres a bit more than just a point and squirt style of driving.
They are recommended to be run on 98 ron, I run mine on Shell vpower and am getting about 33-35 mpg on a daily commute, around thirteen miles with a mix of about half of that being thirty to forty limits and the rest being seventy. I've just got off my fat arse and checked, I've never reset the counters in the car, so apart from it maybe resetting itself anytime that I may have disconnected the battery, it's showing an average of 35mpg.
With the rear seats down, there's a decent sized boot area, enough for four wheels, which I think was one of the design remits to be able to carry a set to a track, swap them, do the track day, swap them back and drive home. I only know from getting my winter wheels shod with tyres. The only downside slightly to the load area is the boot entry size isn't the full width like some cars, it tapers slightly, so you have to be sure some items are going to fit before taking it for loading up. I've been alright though, I can't think of anything that I couldn't get in, but some things needed to go in at an angle.
It's certainly liveable with as a daily, or has been for me. Have a look at my garage on here, apart from the Caterham and the current Eunos, all have been daily runners so you can (sort of) see what I'm comparing it too. I have to say, out of all the cars bar the Caterham, it's the one I've owned the longest and whilst I've got ideas to change it next year, I'm not actually bored of the car, which is what drove a lot of the other changes.
If you've got any more questions, fire away. If you're anywhere near Matlock in Derbyshire I don't mind meeting up if you want a bit more of a poke around.
Hanslow said:
Yeah it's my daily runner. I've got a set of winter wheels for it, some old Subaru Impreza ones with Nokians on but I've not really needed them to be fair. When the snow has been really bad I've stayed at home and I'm fortunate enough that I can work from home if I'm unable to get in to work. I've otherwise been able to get out to the shops when needed.
If it helps, I've had a MkIV Golf Gti and a MkV diesel GTD and whilst both were fun and far more torquey, for me the 86 is a lot more fun to drive. To get the most out of it, you do have to drive it, holding on to revs a bit more and planning gear changes and manoeuvres a bit more than just a point and squirt style of driving.
They are recommended to be run on 98 ron, I run mine on Shell vpower and am getting about 33-35 mpg on a daily commute, around thirteen miles with a mix of about half of that being thirty to forty limits and the rest being seventy. I've just got off my fat arse and checked, I've never reset the counters in the car, so apart from it maybe resetting itself anytime that I may have disconnected the battery, it's showing an average of 35mpg.
With the rear seats down, there's a decent sized boot area, enough for four wheels, which I think was one of the design remits to be able to carry a set to a track, swap them, do the track day, swap them back and drive home. I only know from getting my winter wheels shod with tyres. The only downside slightly to the load area is the boot entry size isn't the full width like some cars, it tapers slightly, so you have to be sure some items are going to fit before taking it for loading up. I've been alright though, I can't think of anything that I couldn't get in, but some things needed to go in at an angle.
It's certainly liveable with as a daily, or has been for me. Have a look at my garage on here, apart from the Caterham and the current Eunos, all have been daily runners so you can (sort of) see what I'm comparing it too. I have to say, out of all the cars bar the Caterham, it's the one I've owned the longest and whilst I've got ideas to change it next year, I'm not actually bored of the car, which is what drove a lot of the other changes.
If you've got any more questions, fire away. If you're anywhere near Matlock in Derbyshire I don't mind meeting up if you want a bit more of a poke around.
Thanks for the offer to meet however you're on the other side of the country to me! I appreciate you giving me the information you have done, i don't want you getting rsi from writing another lengthy post! If i have more questions in the future i know who to turn to, but that'll do for now! Cheers!If it helps, I've had a MkIV Golf Gti and a MkV diesel GTD and whilst both were fun and far more torquey, for me the 86 is a lot more fun to drive. To get the most out of it, you do have to drive it, holding on to revs a bit more and planning gear changes and manoeuvres a bit more than just a point and squirt style of driving.
They are recommended to be run on 98 ron, I run mine on Shell vpower and am getting about 33-35 mpg on a daily commute, around thirteen miles with a mix of about half of that being thirty to forty limits and the rest being seventy. I've just got off my fat arse and checked, I've never reset the counters in the car, so apart from it maybe resetting itself anytime that I may have disconnected the battery, it's showing an average of 35mpg.
With the rear seats down, there's a decent sized boot area, enough for four wheels, which I think was one of the design remits to be able to carry a set to a track, swap them, do the track day, swap them back and drive home. I only know from getting my winter wheels shod with tyres. The only downside slightly to the load area is the boot entry size isn't the full width like some cars, it tapers slightly, so you have to be sure some items are going to fit before taking it for loading up. I've been alright though, I can't think of anything that I couldn't get in, but some things needed to go in at an angle.
It's certainly liveable with as a daily, or has been for me. Have a look at my garage on here, apart from the Caterham and the current Eunos, all have been daily runners so you can (sort of) see what I'm comparing it too. I have to say, out of all the cars bar the Caterham, it's the one I've owned the longest and whilst I've got ideas to change it next year, I'm not actually bored of the car, which is what drove a lot of the other changes.
If you've got any more questions, fire away. If you're anywhere near Matlock in Derbyshire I don't mind meeting up if you want a bit more of a poke around.
No worries. I sit in front of a computer all day so typing isn't an issue, it's putting the thoughts into useful words that normally poses the problem I'll keep an eye out in case you come back with more questions (and nobody else provides any).
On my first test drive I had the back end step out unintentionally taking a ninety degree corner and all I could manage was a cheeky "oops!". Dealer didn't bat an eyelid so I think they were more used to how it handles. It's not always like that, but is easy to provoke if/when you want to.
I'll keep an eye out in case you come back with more questions (and nobody else provides any).On my first test drive I had the back end step out unintentionally taking a ninety degree corner and all I could manage was a cheeky "oops!". Dealer didn't bat an eyelid so I think they were more used to how it handles. It's not always like that, but is easy to provoke if/when you want to.
you need to drive one. only way as it's unlike most cars.
200bhp is actually very high for 2018 n/a. i don't think anything else today has more hp/litre??
use the 'box and it goes well. hang around below 4500 (as you do with most other cars) and it's slow.
old school, great to thrash yet quite civilised.
it really occupies a very small area in the venn diagram of cars: too fat too be a real weekender (Lotus etc) and too raw for a comfortable swift daily (GTi and just about anything else). Not good for motorways, ok for daily if you're on b roads.
it is old school and way more fun than a GTi.
I'm a bit odd though. i have several cars, and the 86 is the heaviest!
200bhp is actually very high for 2018 n/a. i don't think anything else today has more hp/litre??
use the 'box and it goes well. hang around below 4500 (as you do with most other cars) and it's slow.
old school, great to thrash yet quite civilised.
it really occupies a very small area in the venn diagram of cars: too fat too be a real weekender (Lotus etc) and too raw for a comfortable swift daily (GTi and just about anything else). Not good for motorways, ok for daily if you're on b roads.
it is old school and way more fun than a GTi.
I'm a bit odd though. i have several cars, and the 86 is the heaviest!
I don't have mine anymore but......
Pro's:
- Handling is fun (rwd)
- Lightweight coupe
- Nice to look at (I had the Aero)
- Great owners clubs with really friendly people
Con's:
- The engine is lackluster in terms of the way it delivers the power. Yes it's 200bhp but Honda were getting 200bhp out of the K20 lump 18 years ago and that engine had a load of character thanks to vtec and a high rev limit, the engine really does let it down in my opinion.
- Standard speakers are not that great, but ok
Pro's:
- Handling is fun (rwd)
- Lightweight coupe
- Nice to look at (I had the Aero)
- Great owners clubs with really friendly people
Con's:
- The engine is lackluster in terms of the way it delivers the power. Yes it's 200bhp but Honda were getting 200bhp out of the K20 lump 18 years ago and that engine had a load of character thanks to vtec and a high rev limit, the engine really does let it down in my opinion.
- Standard speakers are not that great, but ok
I'm on my second 86 after the first was stolen! I'm 6'8" which limits my choice of sporty cars but I love my 86.
I've had my current 2013 car for just over a year and I've just supercharged it with the Cosworth kit. I was happy enough with the car before but when I heard about Cosworth pulling out of the aftermarket and discounting the kits it was an easy decision to make. It makes the car feel more special for me. I do think the engine is the weak link, not really in terms of power so much but definitely in character. I haven't changed anything else on it so I'm still running the stock exhaust and primacies although they'll be replaced with something stickier when they are done.
I like how compact and light it is compared to most cars (I'd probably have an elise if I could fit in one). Both of mine have been very reliable. Only issue I had was with the first one. The rimless rear view mirror started to delaminate and was replaced under warranty. The speakers aren't amazing but they are adequate for my tastes. I like having it off to hear the supercharger now
I don't drive mine daily but I do regularly find excuses to take it out!
I've had my current 2013 car for just over a year and I've just supercharged it with the Cosworth kit. I was happy enough with the car before but when I heard about Cosworth pulling out of the aftermarket and discounting the kits it was an easy decision to make. It makes the car feel more special for me. I do think the engine is the weak link, not really in terms of power so much but definitely in character. I haven't changed anything else on it so I'm still running the stock exhaust and primacies although they'll be replaced with something stickier when they are done.
I like how compact and light it is compared to most cars (I'd probably have an elise if I could fit in one). Both of mine have been very reliable. Only issue I had was with the first one. The rimless rear view mirror started to delaminate and was replaced under warranty. The speakers aren't amazing but they are adequate for my tastes. I like having it off to hear the supercharger now
I don't drive mine daily but I do regularly find excuses to take it out!
I owned a 86 for a year. 2013 plate with 40,000 miles on it, I added about 7000 onto it. I absolutely hated the thing and couldnt wait to get rid, but although I hated it I do know quite a bit about the car. I'll list my personal pros and cons.
Pros:
Nice styling however subjective. The car was based on the 2000GT which for me is one of the best looking cars to ever come out of Japan. However; the untrained eye will assume you're driving a Porsche which is a kick in the teeth because of course you're driving a Toyota...
Chassis set up was incredible. There's a reason these cars are so widely used in Motorsport (albeit with a completely different engine, more on that later)
Cheap to insure. I was 24 when I got it and it cost £500 fully comprehensive with Hastings UK.
Interior was nicely set out; incredibly ergonomic. Everything in the exact right place. Nice small steering wheel with no buttons or any other kind of interference. It had nice looking race car style switches too.
Other details which I personally appreciated was the 86mm tail pipes which looked lovely and the 86mm bore and stroke.
Low center of gravity felt awesome when thrashing the car through B roads.
Cons:
As stated by 90% of people who have drove the car, the engine is s
te. Everything was a massive effort, you're talking 6000rpm onwards for any kind of "fun" which for me I found a complete ball ache on a daily driving basis.
Engine note was uninspiring. It always sounded like it was about to break. I was excited to own my first boxer engine car but there's no classic "boxer burble". It sounded like a angle grinder.
Build quality was ste. I've seen better built cars come out of Syria. Everything rattled. I'm not talking small rattles either, I'm onabout big fk off rattles that infuriate you. Maybe mine was a one off but it doesn't take long to find the rattle thread on the 86 owners forums where 100s of other owners have the same rattle issues.
Brake squeal, again infuriating and many others had the issue. Long story short Toyota couldn't sort it and it was a permanent issue whilst owning the car. It sounded like a bus everytime the car came to a halt.
Practicality, there isn't none and Toyota should never of said the car had 4 seats, because unless you have no legs there is no way you're sitting comfortably in the back. PS. Boot space was shocking.
Quite a harsh ride.
And that's it. If you're buying the car with the intention of strapping on a turbo, stripping it then using it on track go ahead cos I can only imagine it'll be a blast.
But as a daily I'd avoid it at all costs. How Toyota could charge £30,000 RRP is ridiculous! Especially compared to my current car of the same price, it's 10x better in every aspect.
Hope I helped. Any of questions drop me a PM dude.
Pros:
Nice styling however subjective. The car was based on the 2000GT which for me is one of the best looking cars to ever come out of Japan. However; the untrained eye will assume you're driving a Porsche which is a kick in the teeth because of course you're driving a Toyota...
Chassis set up was incredible. There's a reason these cars are so widely used in Motorsport (albeit with a completely different engine, more on that later)
Cheap to insure. I was 24 when I got it and it cost £500 fully comprehensive with Hastings UK.
Interior was nicely set out; incredibly ergonomic. Everything in the exact right place. Nice small steering wheel with no buttons or any other kind of interference. It had nice looking race car style switches too.
Other details which I personally appreciated was the 86mm tail pipes which looked lovely and the 86mm bore and stroke.
Low center of gravity felt awesome when thrashing the car through B roads.
Cons:
As stated by 90% of people who have drove the car, the engine is s
te. Everything was a massive effort, you're talking 6000rpm onwards for any kind of "fun" which for me I found a complete ball ache on a daily driving basis.Engine note was uninspiring. It always sounded like it was about to break. I was excited to own my first boxer engine car but there's no classic "boxer burble". It sounded like a angle grinder.
Build quality was s
te. I've seen better built cars come out of Syria. Everything rattled. I'm not talking small rattles either, I'm onabout big fk off rattles that infuriate you. Maybe mine was a one off but it doesn't take long to find the rattle thread on the 86 owners forums where 100s of other owners have the same rattle issues.Brake squeal, again infuriating and many others had the issue. Long story short Toyota couldn't sort it and it was a permanent issue whilst owning the car. It sounded like a bus everytime the car came to a halt.
Practicality, there isn't none and Toyota should never of said the car had 4 seats, because unless you have no legs there is no way you're sitting comfortably in the back. PS. Boot space was shocking.
Quite a harsh ride.
And that's it. If you're buying the car with the intention of strapping on a turbo, stripping it then using it on track go ahead cos I can only imagine it'll be a blast.
But as a daily I'd avoid it at all costs. How Toyota could charge £30,000 RRP is ridiculous! Especially compared to my current car of the same price, it's 10x better in every aspect.
Hope I helped. Any of questions drop me a PM dude.
Edited by RSmith1992FK2 on Tuesday 31st July 17:23
I love mine. Rear seats fine for kids up to age of about 14 which is a must for me for school run work. Lower centre of gravity than a Cayman. Changes direction like a cheetah. For British B roads it’s brilliant. Mines remapped to 214bhp with a sports exhaust and the engine is intoxicating and feels bulletproof. It’s got more power than grip and that is very rare these days. I get it sideways all the time and it makes you feel like a driving god.
It’s not about numbers.
It’s not about numbers.
https://www.fensport.co.uk/parts/toyota/gt-86/zn6/...
Get it fettled and you can easily fix the cars weakest point which is the engine.
The car moves around. It slides a bit. You can lock the wheels a bit under braking. It will oversteer at low speeds. You can heel and toe it or handbrake turn it. It feels banzai at speeds that are not particularly high. It does high 70’s in third gear so realistically you have four forward gears to play with on a charge. In a Cayman it does 78mph in second and the speeds at which it starts reaching grip level limits you’ll be in prison or a wheelchair if you have an acccident.
It’s a raw, darty, angry little car. It’s not as quick as my 535d. But that’s not the point. Not the point at all.
Get it fettled and you can easily fix the cars weakest point which is the engine.
The car moves around. It slides a bit. You can lock the wheels a bit under braking. It will oversteer at low speeds. You can heel and toe it or handbrake turn it. It feels banzai at speeds that are not particularly high. It does high 70’s in third gear so realistically you have four forward gears to play with on a charge. In a Cayman it does 78mph in second and the speeds at which it starts reaching grip level limits you’ll be in prison or a wheelchair if you have an acccident.
It’s a raw, darty, angry little car. It’s not as quick as my 535d. But that’s not the point. Not the point at all.
Honeywell said:
It’s a raw, darty, angry little car. It’s not as quick as my 535d. But that’s not the point. Not the point at all.
Spot on. I came to mine from a Mk7.5 Golf R and I much prefer the GT86. The scrote that nicked my Golf did me a favour (not that I thought that at the time), 6 months into ownership and I was getting bored of it. It was good at going quickly but the Golf just doesn't involve the driver in the process very much. The GT86 is the complete opposite, it's a car that feels like it wants to be driven, it encourages you to play and rewards you for doing so. We've become so used to heavy cars with numb steering and a harsh ride that the GT86 is a revelation in the way you can feel the car through the steering wheel and change direction so quickly.
One of the best, most involving road cars I've owned, only beaten I think by the Elise and Exige (but they were nowhere near as practical day-to-day).
Without strengthened con rods that is an expensive ticking bomb I reckon.
My Fensport remap and sports exhaust is as far as I’d go. It power oversteers in the wet like a lunatic if you take the traction off. It’s a car that is great fun to thrash on a British B road. I wouldn’t want huge turbo thrust - I’ve got a 535d for that.
Sometimes less is more.
My Fensport remap and sports exhaust is as far as I’d go. It power oversteers in the wet like a lunatic if you take the traction off. It’s a car that is great fun to thrash on a British B road. I wouldn’t want huge turbo thrust - I’ve got a 535d for that.
Sometimes less is more.
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