Supra NA-T or Skyline R34 GTT?

[bradra91]

Wondering if there's anyone on here who is lucky enough to own both or has driven both of these cars. I currently own a Supra NA Auto. I have been toying with the idea for a while now of changing to an R34 GTT, mainly because of it being turbo'd and manual. I could always go down the NA-T route with my supra, but would probably cost more in the long run.

Is there anyone who could shine some light on on the pros and cons of both, making my decision a little easier?

Obviously in an ideal world I'd be choosing between a Twin Turbo 6 speed Supra and an R34 GT-R, but, alas, I'm not a millionaire 😂 so the cheaper options will have to do.

Thanks.

[TommoAE86]

Afraid not driven either, the R34 GTT is loved by many in the Skyline Owner's Club & always looks good when at shows etc.

The main difference I've gather is that it's more grown up and quite GT-like, whereas I imagine the Supra will feel more raw like my R33 as they are of similar ages.

Modern Classics did a piece of the R34 GTT in a recent issue, maybe worth hunting one out and having a nose?

Maybe try asking one of the owners clubs if someone lives nearby could take you for a spin? The Skyline and Supra mk3 clubs were helpful for me when I was deciding between the two.

[bradra91]

Thanks! I'll see if I can find the article by modern classics and give it a read!

[bradra91]

Thanks! I'll see if I can find the article by modern classics and give it a read!

[jimjam92]

TommoAE86 said:

Afraid not driven either, the R34 GTT is loved by many in the Skyline Owner's Club & always looks good when at shows etc.

The main difference I've gather is that it's more grown up and quite GT-like, whereas I imagine the Supra will feel more raw like my R33 as they are of similar ages.

Modern Classics did a piece of the R34 GTT in a recent issue, maybe worth hunting one out and having a nose?

Maybe try asking one of the owners clubs if someone lives nearby could take you for a spin? The Skyline and Supra mk3 clubs were helpful for me when I was deciding between the two.

I've owned both Skylines and Supras (albeit an R32 GTR and my current TT Supra) and I would argue that point, and say that the Supra is more GT-like, as it was designed from the ground up as a GT car, whereas R series Skylines are coupe versions of existing saloon cars. Don't forget that despite appearing in 1998 an R34 is a continuation of a chassis that first appeared in 1989, although admittedly stiffened up and reworked over the different generations. The A80 Supra debuted in 1993 and Toyota actually delayed the release by 2 years and went back to the drawing board after Nissan released the Z32 300zx in 1991. I find my Supra much more comfortable than my GTR ever was (think road car rather than race car for the road) and the interior a nicer place to be.

I also believe the fit and finish and build quality of 90's Nissans inferior to that of Toyota products of the same era.

I tend to see more Skylines around than Supras, which does make sense if you look at the numbers made - 600,000 Skylines (of the 90's generations, 32, 33 and 34) compared to just 45,000 Supras, so do enjoy the exclusivity of having the rarer car.

Both great cars however, each with a lot of potential. I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever decision you make.

[bradra91]

I think what it's going to come down to is cost. I already own a 1993 NA auto Supra, but find it a bit sluggish and I'm not at all a fan of the auto gearbox. I'm aware that NA's did come with the weak W58 manual also, but as mine is the Aerotop model, and they were only made as automatic (apart from the USDM cars). After months and months of research, I can conclude that it's going to cost me around another £10,000 to convert the car to a manual and to turbo it properly. And that could somewhat affect the cars reliability.

However, if I sold the car I'd only need another 2-3k to put towards an R34 that is already manual and turbo'd as stock. Although I prefer the look and build quality of the supra, the skyline would probably be a more cost effective car for the style of driving i would like to be doing.

Unfortunately a twin turbo 6 speed Supra and an R34 GTR have risen in value wayyyy out of my reach so I'm having to look at the cheaper alternatives.

[TommoAE86]

jimjam92 said:

I've owned both Skylines and Supras (albeit an R32 GTR and my current TT Supra) and I would argue that point, and say that the Supra is more GT-like, as it was designed from the ground up as a GT car, whereas R series Skylines are coupe versions of existing saloon cars. Don't forget that despite appearing in 1998 an R34 is a continuation of a chassis that first appeared in 1989, although admittedly stiffened up and reworked over the different generations. The A80 Supra debuted in 1993 and Toyota actually delayed the release by 2 years and went back to the drawing board after Nissan released the Z32 300zx in 1991. I find my Supra much more comfortable than my GTR ever was (think road car rather than race car for the road) and the interior a nicer place to be.

I also believe the fit and finish and build quality of 90's Nissans inferior to that of Toyota products of the same .

Both great cars however, each with a lot of potential. I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever decision you make.

Im happy to concede the point to experience however as per my post I have a GTS-t rather than a GTR, I’d fully expect as you found out that a Supra is always going to be more of a GT than the GTR Skylines.

[GravelBen]

bradra91 said:

I already own a 1993 NA auto Supra, but find it a bit sluggish

They're slower than they look aren't they. I've shared a couple of trackdays with one, I'm not sure how much was the car and how much was just the driver but I hadn't expected it to be lapping slower than my Mk1 MX5.

[maxdb]

I've driven an R34 GTR and a TT Supra so not the same but overall I preferred the Supra. The Supra had a better power and and felt a little more special then the GTR, which surprised me as I was suspecting it to be the other way around.

I've been looking at upgrading my car at some point and 2 of the choices were a Supra and Skyline. A TT Supra stretches the budget to the limit and an n/a will be too slow for me, which leaves a Skyline GTT. Even the GTTs can fetch a lot of money unless you get a 4 door but I'm not sure on owning a 4 door Skyline.

[jammyb86]

Hi,

Do you have more details on your Supra Aero-top?

Year, Mileage, Colour - could be interested if sold at a reasonable price.

Thanks
James

[DannyScene]

GravelBen said:

They're slower than they look aren't they. I've shared a couple of trackdays with one, I'm not sure how much was the car and how much was just the driver but I hadn't expected it to be lapping slower than my Mk1 MX5.

The mx5 being faster round a track doesn't really surprise me
The NA auto supras are awfully slow and feel heavier than the moon imo
Never had a go in a turbo one though

[bradra91]

jammyb86 said:

Hi,

Do you have more details on your Supra Aero-top?

Year, Mileage, Colour - could be interested if sold at a reasonable price.

Thanks
James

Hi James,

I'm currently in the process of arranging a manual gearbox (R154) conversion which, if it goes ahead, will increase the value of the car to around the 13-14k mark.

I'm not entirely sure at this point that I am going to sell the car. Unless somebody was willing to offer a decent price for it.

The car has just under 125k on the odo (mix of miles and km) and is a 93 car in red. It has been recently valued at just over £10k as it has had a recent respray and bodywork refurbishment and is in excellent condition. At the minute, engine and drivetrain is stock (NA Auto) with a front lip, side skirts and rear spats fitted along with 19" Calibre GT-R wheels.

[Ahbefive]

A supra with no turbo and an auto gearbox is an unfortunate thing. Get rid.

[Jazzy Jefferson]

Got an R34 GTT. Considered a Supra but for me it was always about Skylines. If you're in or around Milton Keynes, drop me a line, happy to let you have a look around it.

[hoodedreeper]

I've driven a friend's Supra TT and although power upgrades are limited at the moment, it was very comfortable to drive (although the skinny bolstered seats wouldn't give much comfort on longer journeys for my larger physique). Power delivery and gear changes were very smooth although i did have problems going from 2nd>3rd (i'm sure thats just a hiccup with this particular gearbox).

He's owned it for a couple of years and as far as i'm aware hasn't come across any major issues with it

I've just purchased an R34 GTT, having come from a supercharged MX5 its quite a change (you can't really compare them). Stock power and stock suspension was surprisingly quite nice to drive with, it didn't wallow about and stuck to the road really well. Power delivery is smooth much like the Supra, although the R34 is abit slower (at the moment :P )

If your in the Norfolk area any time feel free to drop me a message

[samdale]

Work on the Supra over time. You mention the R154 swap, do this, enjoy, save for NA-T kit.

End result is a manual, turbo, aerotop. In my opinion, the holy grail of Supras (and I have a hardtop TT6) and way better than any Skyline with reasons already highlighted.

If you switch to the GTT then I reckon in a few years time you'd wish you stuck with the Supra.

[SarGara]

The prices of both are only going one way as they are getting purchased and stored in prep for the US market opening. Perhaps not the same if you manage to buy one already in the country but definitely if you are thinking of being the first UK owner and importing. So if you are serious you need to act soon.

I picked my R34 GTT up 2 weeks ago after a deposit being paid to the importer back in Feb, hes not able to source them anymore for what i paid 6 months earlier.