Any zc32 Suzuki swift sport users?
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gweaver said:
This may amaze you but it has, at times, been possible to buy a Jazz with a Sport badge.
Yes I think the first gen Jazz had a “sport” with the same 1.4 as other models, second gen had an “Si” and third gen has a 1.5 (sport) but engine is unique to that model in the OK. sorry not trying to turn the thread into a Jazz one. Just clarifying . trickywoo said:
Kev_Mk3 said:
Sports are only in 1.6
In n/a. The turbo ones are 1.4. I know we are only discussing the 32 but its worth saying that from 2018 on the sport went turbo.I've not driven one but people say it has way more torque than the n/a but isn't as much fun to rev out.
While we are on the subject of Jazz vs Swift what is the real MPG like on the Jazz. Swift is mid 30s which is a constant disappointment for me.
This isn't a heroic statement btw. I ran an original 1.7 Puma long term on the same route and it gave mid 40s. Reason I mention it is that power, weight and performance of the Puma was very similar to the Swift. With 15 years of development and a 6th gear the Swift really should do better on fuel.
trickywoo said:
While we are on the subject of Jazz vs Swift what is the real MPG like on the Jazz. Swift is mid 30s which is a constant disappointment for me.
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With 15 years of development and a 6th gear the Swift really should do better on fuel.
I'm not going to argue that the Swift is really good on fuel, but I do a lot of short journeys and I've averaged 40.8mpg (brim to brim) over 30k miles. I've even managed over 50mpg on a few long journeys. That's not so bad when you consider that the M series dates back to around 1999...
With 15 years of development and a 6th gear the Swift really should do better on fuel.
If you're seeing mid 30s something isn't optimal.. could be winter fuel, driving conditions, driving style, or a variety of subtle mechanical issues.
gweaver said:
I'm not going to argue that the Swift is really good on fuel, but I do a lot of short journeys and I've averaged 40.8mpg (brim to brim) over 30k miles. I've even managed over 50mpg on a few long journeys. That's not so bad when you consider that the M series dates back to around 1999.
If you're seeing mid 30s something isn't optimal.. could be winter fuel, driving conditions, driving style, or a variety of subtle mechanical issues.
350 miles to a tank? I get 320. 20 mile A / B road run minimal stops re roundabouts / lights etc. I service the brakes every year so no binding and tyre pressures always spot on 33/30. Exact same conditions the Puma did mid 40s mpg maybe more. If you're seeing mid 30s something isn't optimal.. could be winter fuel, driving conditions, driving style, or a variety of subtle mechanical issues.
You are doing really well to get 350 miles to a tank on short journeys.
I know this will be subjective but are there any “must have” ZC32S mods or tweaks to improve the experience. Am I right in saying that for a road car then standard (good condition/new suspension springs and dampers) are the preferred choice? Along with the gear cable ploy bush repair/mod.
trickywoo said:
350 miles to a tank?
I tend to refuel before the warning light comes on, but yes, sounds about right.The furthest I've gone on a tank is 404 miles (46.4mpg), and the worst fuel consumption I've had is 37 mpg.
My secret is that I try not to use the brakes ;-)
FWIW I use Shell AG 5W30, I avoid supermarket fuel, and I make sure that the tyres pressures are correct.
JohnnyD1999 said:
I know this will be subjective but are there any “must have” ZC32S mods or tweaks to improve the experience. Am I right in saying that for a road car then standard (good condition/new suspension springs and dampers) are the preferred choice? Along with the gear cable ploy bush repair/mod.
Tyres are the main thing for me. Go for 205/45 instead of the 195/45. Ride is a lot better and it opens up a wider choice of tyres. Goodyear F1 Assy 6 really suit the car. Slightly unbelievably Halfords are doing these at a good price at the moment £113.50 (V rated the W is more but you don't need it) each fitted including disposal etc. if you buy 4.Standard springs and dampers are the right way to go. Its what makes them so good on our generally badly surfaced roads.
A lot of people say a rear Hardrace ARB improves the handling without affecting the ride quality.
I'd also fit decent brake pads. DS2500 are the gold standard but I like EBC Green. They give good pedal feel and 'come to you' with heat which I quite like but its subjective. The brakes on these are good. People only really change pads even for track use.
trails said:
My wife's car is mostly used for short journeys, occasionally I do take it out to make sure it's legs have been stretched properly and this is our MPG...which I think is fine and makes it by far and away the most economical car we have!
Computer on these overreads by at least 15% - sorry for the bad news. They are all the same. Mine says 46 I think.
trickywoo said:
JohnnyD1999 said:
Thanks Trickywoo
The other obvious thing is the gearchange. MTL? Redline gearbox oil and fresh gear linkage (poly)bushes reputedly help, plus prophylactic greasing of the lower gear lever/ball.
My gearbox certainly feels a lot nicer when it's warmed up, and there's a bit of forward/back play in the gearchange now, so I probably need to look into both of those.
JohnnyD1999 said:
Thanks for the reply, just what I was looking for. Thanks for taking the time to respond in the way that you have, I’ve been planning on picking up a ZC32S for some time but just recently the Jazz has been on my radar. I’m guessing yours is a 1.5 Sport?
As someone who owns neither my research has shown similar to yours in terms of how well received the GK and even previous generation GE model Jazz’s are around the world with Autosolos and even Best Motoring as you say although it’s not until the latest generation that we got the higher powered version.
Apart from the loss in turn in were there any other negatives to dropping down to 15in wheels on the Swift? Does yours have any other mods? What tyre sizes are you running? Do you have any pics?
Sorry for all the questions. ????
Yeah 1.5 sport, we did pay around double the price for the Jazz so that's one thing to consider. As someone who owns neither my research has shown similar to yours in terms of how well received the GK and even previous generation GE model Jazz’s are around the world with Autosolos and even Best Motoring as you say although it’s not until the latest generation that we got the higher powered version.
Apart from the loss in turn in were there any other negatives to dropping down to 15in wheels on the Swift? Does yours have any other mods? What tyre sizes are you running? Do you have any pics?
Sorry for all the questions. ????
No downsides to the 15 inch wheels as far as I see it, less weight, better acceleration, cheaper tires. The car looks worse with them on but I don't really care when I'm sat in it. I don't actually have any pictures up close and the stock alloys with winter tires are currently fitted. Tire size on the 15s is 195/55 and on the 17 inch stock wheels I use 205/45. Both of these are close enough to the stock size of 195/45 that the speedo is only "out" by 1-2% from memory.
No other mods apart from the rear engine mount poly bush and the poly bushes fitted to the linkages. The engine mount is not something I would recommend to anyone to be honest, yes it probably helps with the gear change and maybe at times the balance of the car but it pushes a lot of noise and vibration into the cabin.
Edit - on the subject of MPG (comparing 1.6 ZC32s to 1.5 GK5 jazz) I don't really look for either car but I think the Jazz is getting around 45-55 while the Swift is 35-45. However, the Jazz is solely used for long runs while swift occasionally gets a run but most of its journeys are sub 15 minutes. If they were used for the same thing I would think they would be pretty close as shown by the honest john stats but the Jazz would be slightly better.
Edited by Saudade on Friday 16th February 23:34
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