Any zc32 Suzuki swift sport users?

Any zc32 Suzuki swift sport users?

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gweaver

747 posts

123 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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silles said:
Did not like how it gear shift felt from 2nd to 3rd, was not smooth.
2nd to 3rd should be smooth, but the gearbox does need to warm up a bit before it feels nice. Also note that the engine management restricts power very noticeably until there is a bit of heat in the engine.
Changing gearbox oil might help, but best to compare with another example. I don't recall any issue with 2nd to 3rd in the four that I've driven.

silles said:
Also gear knob and start button had high wear. Is it a common issue?
Not that I'm aware of. Some people just seem to damage things without trying. Mine was a pre-reg and had picked up several scratches to the paint and lower dash before it had even left the show room. I don't know how they managed it.

silles

48 posts

37 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Darren93 said:
My current car is 300bhp and it's quite a frustrating drive as you can't really exploit the car... Ideally I'll be looking for something cheaper (first time house buyer) as well as being more fun which this seems to fit. ~7ish to 60 is good performance in my book, couldn't imagine how annoying an AMG would be day to day biglaugh
Same dilemma here, i have a 300 bhp Leon Cupra, great fun for like 5.5 seconds and then your license is gone.
Want something which you can enjoy all power all the time and much cheaper.


silles

48 posts

37 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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couple of questions pop up in my mind:

1. are the seat comfortable on long motorway journeys
2. what kind of range u get out from mini 42l tank? like if u stick to motorway speed limits... [obviously when u having a blast consumption will plummet ]
3. does it have daylight running light?
4. can u turn of ESP?
5. what's the RPM at 70mph in 6th?

trickywoo

9,208 posts

195 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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1. are the seat comfortable on long motorway journeys
Fine

2. what kind of range u get out from mini 42l tank? like if u stick to motorway speed limits... [obviously when u having a blast consumption will plummet
320 without getting a sweat on

3. does it have daylight running light?
No but it does have auto lights

4. can u turn of ESP?
Yes but I can't tell its doing anything when on

5. what's the RPM at 70mph in 6th?
Under 3k I think. Refinement on the m-way is OK.


silles

48 posts

37 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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trickywoo said:
1. are the seat comfortable on long motorway journeys
Fine

2. what kind of range u get out from mini 42l tank? like if u stick to motorway speed limits... [obviously when u having a blast consumption will plummet
320 without getting a sweat on

3. does it have daylight running light?
No but it does have auto lights

4. can u turn of ESP?
Yes but I can't tell its doing anything when on

5. what's the RPM at 70mph in 6th?
Under 3k I think. Refinement on the m-way is OK.
perfect, thanks.

gweaver

747 posts

123 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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trickywoo said:
1. are the seat comfortable on long motorway journeys
Fine

2. what kind of range u get out from mini 42l tank? like if u stick to motorway speed limits... [obviously when u having a blast consumption will plummet
320 without getting a sweat on

3. does it have daylight running light?
No but it does have auto lights

4. can u turn of ESP?
Yes but I can't tell its doing anything when on

5. what's the RPM at 70mph in 6th?
Under 3k I think. Refinement on the m-way is OK.
Mostly agree with this, but:
2. I've managed 360 miles to a tank several times, and 370 once. I reckon 400 might be possible, but I'd agree that 320 is a reasonable expectation in mixed driving.
5. I think it's more like 3000 or 3100rpm at 70 in 6th. Motorway refinement is very good for a light weight supermini (much better than the previous generation). I find it fine for long journeys.

Kev_Mk3

2,030 posts

60 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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silles said:
couple of questions pop up in my mind:

1. are the seat comfortable on long motorway journeys - cant comment on standard seats as I have recaros in mine
2. what kind of range u get out from mini 42l tank? like if u stick to motorway speed limits... [obviously when u having a blast consumption will plummet ] - well over 300 easy
3. does it have daylight running light? no it has auto lights
4. can u turn of ESP? yes but its never fully off
5. what's the RPM at 70mph in 6th?
fine and refined

silles

48 posts

37 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Sorry one more question, could someone with stock suspension measure the gap between the tyres and arches front/rear please. Want to avoid lowered ones

trickywoo

9,208 posts

195 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Arch gap is about 7cm. Front and back look pretty much the same.

They are big gaps so should be easy to see anything lowered.

silles

48 posts

37 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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Thx. Anyone with 205/45/17 tyres
Any issues? Michelle pilot 4 is like 40 quid cheaper in this size.

Could there be any issues with insurance ?

trickywoo

9,208 posts

195 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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silles said:
Thx. Anyone with 205/45/17 tyres
Any issues? Michelle pilot 4 is like 40 quid cheaper in this size.

Could there be any issues with insurance ?
I've just got a set of Goodyear F1 Asy 5 in this size (£74 + fitting). Not yet fitted but lots of people run this size without issue.

The speedo will over read slightly (1 mph at 70) but not worth worrying about.

The wheels are 6.5J which can take a 215 max in size so 205 is absolutely fine.

I suppose strictly speaking you should tell the insurance but IMO they would have a hard time arguing the change was material (certainly not negatively).



Kev_Mk3

2,030 posts

60 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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I have no idea on tyres I am on KW v3 coilovers with 15" wheels and tyres rides beautifully and really comfy tbh Even driving 15 hours to south Germany felt fresh still.

LimSlip

678 posts

19 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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silles said:
The other one was the 2014 with 37k. Did not like how it gear shift felt from 2nd to 3rd, was not smooth. Also gear knob and start button had high wear. Is it a common issue?
Missed this. A stiff gearchange from cold on the ZC32 is normal, as is sluggish performance with a cold engine but both are fine once they are warmed up. The gearchange remote mechanism is bolted to the floor via some rather floppy rubber bushes that makes the remote move around during a change. Shift quality is significantly improved if these bushes are replaced by better fitting, slightly stiffer aftermarket parts.

People will tell you the sluggish engine is some kind of engine "protection", but with no evidence to back this up. Far more likely IMO, that it's an emissions control strategy, the engine feels quite lethargic at low RPM like the ignition is well retarded, which coincidentally is great for heating up catalytic converters quickly. Additionally if you get the revs high with a cold engine, it pulls normally so it would be a particularly crap engine protection scheme.

Ilovejapcrap

3,044 posts

77 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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I’ve had mine from new November 2016 and still notice it does not seem to let you rev up quick if you will from cold, so something be it emission related or engine management definitely going on.

I run the standard size continentals on mine, 100 odd quid. Did try another brand I forget which that cost around 80 quid each but the continentals feel so much better I just pay the extra.

silles

48 posts

37 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Anyone using Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRuns?
Checked out an early 2014 model, good condition with
4 new falkens.

R they any good?
6999 is it OK for a 2014 with 36k?

gweaver

747 posts

123 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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I've had Falkens before and they are ok. Mine were a different tyre (ZE914?) on a different car (Rover 200vi), but I found them ok - traction in the wet was perhaps a weak area.

Falken are a mid-tier Japanese brand (so you score JDM points), sometimes the cheapest "non-budget" option. IMHO definitely better than budget tyres, but not on a par with the top tier brands. I wouldn't be put off by them - I'd probably walk away from a car fitted with cheap Chinese tyres.

The ZE310 are asymmetric, so have the advantage that you can rotate them around the car as they wear. I like that they have "Eco" in the name, yet score E on the EU fuel efficiency rating biggrin
I think the Goodyear, Yokohama and Hankook tyres in 195/45R17 are directional, and so can't be rotated. FWIW I've had poorly balanced/matched Goodyear tyres and I've found Hankooks prone to perishing.

silles

48 posts

37 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Checked an other one and had 3 joyroad and 1 unknown tyres. Wtf.... Walked away lol

does anyone know when suzuki upgraded the clutch spring? they broke prematurely but not sure when it was rectified

Edited by silles on Sunday 9th February 15:51

gweaver

747 posts

123 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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silles said:
Checked an other one and had 3 joyroad and 1 unknown tyres. Wtf.... Walked away lol
To me that's a sign that a car has been maintained at the absolute lowest cost, and that other things may have been ignored. MOT history check is often an interesting indication of the way a car has been maintained, particularly with older cars.

gweaver

747 posts

123 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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silles said:
6999 is it OK for a 2014 with 36k?
It's probably a few hundred above what I'd expect, but maybe there's room for a haggle if its a good one?
5dr, Nav and Boost Blue cars (most seem to be greyscale) might all add a bit to the value, plus main dealer prices might be a bit higher, but might be worth it if you get a year of proper warranty. Not that they're unreliable, but I had a new battery, alloy wheels and a rear damper under warranty, so mine was probably a very bad example!

silles

48 posts

37 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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gweaver said:
silles said:
6999 is it OK for a 2014 with 36k?
It's probably a few hundred above what I'd expect, but maybe there's room for a haggle if its a good one?
5dr, Nav and Boost Blue cars (most seem to be greyscale) might all add a bit to the value, plus main dealer prices might be a bit higher, but might be worth it if you get a year of proper warranty. Not that they're unreliable, but I had a new battery, alloy wheels and a rear damper under warranty, so mine was probably a very bad example!
it comes with 5 stamps from Suzuki + 3 months RAC warranty + full service, mot etc. think i go for it smile