Who says S2000's are a handfull in the wet - pah!

Who says S2000's are a handfull in the wet - pah!

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Focus ST

253 posts

221 months

Friday 10th March 2006
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skibum said:

Dan - I sent my dad off to take some piccies and unfortunately he couldnt work out how to press the button properly - what is it with Dad's and Gadgets! There was a photographer on site but I balked at £10 a photo. Here are some examples from their site though.


Cheers Rich ... nice to see it used properly!

Have to agree thats very very wet and I certainly didnt drive it quick in the wet.

Rhino

52 posts

253 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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Just noticed this thread and I thought I comment, are you using the SO2 tyres?

The 2k is sensitive to the tyre pressures, I think this plays a part as well. When I test drove my car the back broke away slowly at quite a low speed in slightly damp conditions, I put this down to the wrong tyres (conti & goodyears) but it turned out that the tyres were roughly 10psi down.

Put them to the right pressure and not a problem. Well not until the tyres got down to the wear markers and then driving in the wet was interesting!

I've got the standard tyre now and so far I haven't had a problem, but it does have to be driven smoothly though.

havoc

30,173 posts

236 months

Saturday 11th March 2006
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Rhino said:
Just noticed this thread and I thought I comment, are you using the SO2 tyres?

The 2k is sensitive to the tyre pressures, I think this plays a part as well. When I test drove my car the back broke away slowly at quite a low speed in slightly damp conditions, I put this down to the wrong tyres (conti & goodyears) but it turned out that the tyres were roughly 10psi down.

Put them to the right pressure and not a problem. Well not until the tyres got down to the wear markers and then driving in the wet was interesting!

I've got the standard tyre now and so far I haven't had a problem, but it does have to be driven smoothly though.
It's probably worth doing a search on S2ki - they've talked tyres at length.

My findings on there:-
- You're right about pressures, same applies to all cars, but with a very focused one like the S2k it's more obvious.
- S02's are dry-weather tyre, and take a while to warm up. Once there, the grip is awesome. In the wet they're skittish.
- Toyo T1R's seem to be the favoured alternative - softer sidewall, so less-sharp turn-in (but up the pressure a few PSI to compensate to a degree), better in wet, more progressive breakaway.


Anyway, just got mine, and it took to the second drive to be convinced...mainly because I needed to 'switch' to it being a rear-driver not a fwd hot-hatch style of car. But it feels rather special...have to wait a few months for a proper performance/handling assessment though.

bad_roo

5,187 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th March 2006
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If you don't think S2000s are a handful in the wet, the only logical conclusion is that you're driving too damn slow.

havoc

30,173 posts

236 months

Tuesday 14th March 2006
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bad_roo said:
If you don't think S2000s are a handful in the wet, the only logical conclusion is that you're driving too damn slow.

At the wrong speed, ANY car is a handful in the wet...

...but the S2k could probably be considered worse than many!

foz01

768 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th March 2006
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havoc said:
bad_roo said:
If you don't think S2000s are a handful in the wet, the only logical conclusion is that you're driving too damn slow.

At the wrong speed, ANY car is a handful in the wet...

...but the S2k could probably be considered worse than many!


and the dry!?!?

Neil_H

15,323 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th March 2006
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When I first got mine I was ultra careful in the wet after reading all the scare stories about them being tricky.

Now, after 2 years and about 22,000 miles I see rain and think "fun". It really isn't a handful unless your tyres are running out of tread, or the road surface isn't good. You can really throw it around, as long as you're smooth with your inputs there's no problem.

skibum

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1,032 posts

238 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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Sorry - been away for a week. The car is running on almost new S02's. I thought it best to stick with the standard tyres. Pressure wise they are running standard pressure (32Psi I think)

...and I can assure you, I dont drive it slowly

phase_k

55 posts

226 months

Monday 20th March 2006
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I think a lot of this comes from people who are out in the wet and not particularly trying to go quick, but without realising it being right foot heavy. I've seen so many threads on s2ki that start "I was just coming off a roundabout in the wet when..." or "I was just coming off a slip road when..." and you know its gonna be the same story.

If you're trying to go quick and paying attention to what the car is doing, you wont have a problem. If you don't treat it with respect and floor it from 2nd gear exiting a roundabout in the wet as if its a FWD then yeah, your going for a spin.