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trooperiziz said:
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
Possibly not but, for 4k, what would you realistically expect? Most of the mint rx's still fetch decent money. A decent single for 5k? Expect problems unless the owner really needs to get rid for personal reasons. I suspect bargains are often because of known problems...
I totally agree, but I suspect that with the current prices as they are, the bargain cars that may have problems are likely to be the £3k cars
A decent single for £5k? How about the single currently up for sale by re:worx on behalf of one of their customers for £5,995?
That's 6 grand innit
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
Possibly not but, for 4k, what would you realistically expect? Most of the mint rx's still fetch decent money. A decent single for 5k? Expect problems unless the owner really needs to get rid for personal reasons. I suspect bargains are often because of known problems...
I totally agree, but I suspect that with the current prices as they are, the bargain cars that may have problems are likely to be the £3k cars
A decent single for £5k? How about the single currently up for sale by re:worx on behalf of one of their customers for £5,995?
That's 6 grand innit
Link to advert? Its a good price but also reflects teh condition if its the one I might be thinking of.
I cant see one with a decent rebuild going to 4k. The rebuild will cost almost that alone so soon people will be buying em for engines if thats the price.
I bought my RX three years ago for £7,000 though realistically in today's market I'd expect to pay £5,000 for it as the paint work was a little tired and it had a rebuild which was not by a reputable builder.
Since then I've had a full rebuild and a bunch of mods done by Dragon and a front end respray and the car looks very tidy.
If I sold it I'd be looking at recovering £7,000 to £7,500 for it which I'd probably struggle to get, but all told car included it's cost me in the region of £18,000 which is why Iain said many people will keep their cars because they've ploughed so much into them!
So the point is yes there are cars out there which would set you back £4,000 to £5,000 but you really will get what you pay for especially with regard to rebuilds because there are rebuilds and there are rebuilds.
For me the most tempting RX up at the moment is PulsatingStars. Good price, nice spec both mechanically and cosmetically, a rebuild by ReWorx and the best colour too in fact, Lee, do me a straight swap and sell mine!
All the best
DC
Since then I've had a full rebuild and a bunch of mods done by Dragon and a front end respray and the car looks very tidy.
If I sold it I'd be looking at recovering £7,000 to £7,500 for it which I'd probably struggle to get, but all told car included it's cost me in the region of £18,000 which is why Iain said many people will keep their cars because they've ploughed so much into them!
So the point is yes there are cars out there which would set you back £4,000 to £5,000 but you really will get what you pay for especially with regard to rebuilds because there are rebuilds and there are rebuilds.
For me the most tempting RX up at the moment is PulsatingStars. Good price, nice spec both mechanically and cosmetically, a rebuild by ReWorx and the best colour too
in fact, Lee, do me a straight swap and sell mine! All the best
DC
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
Possibly not but, for 4k, what would you realistically expect? Most of the mint rx's still fetch decent money. A decent single for 5k? Expect problems unless the owner really needs to get rid for personal reasons. I suspect bargains are often because of known problems...
I totally agree, but I suspect that with the current prices as they are, the bargain cars that may have problems are likely to be the £3k cars
A decent single for £5k? How about the single currently up for sale by re:worx on behalf of one of their customers for £5,995?
That's 6 grand innit
5.5 grand for cash i'd imagine
Pulsatingstar said:
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
Possibly not but, for 4k, what would you realistically expect? Most of the mint rx's still fetch decent money. A decent single for 5k? Expect problems unless the owner really needs to get rid for personal reasons. I suspect bargains are often because of known problems...
I totally agree, but I suspect that with the current prices as they are, the bargain cars that may have problems are likely to be the £3k cars
A decent single for £5k? How about the single currently up for sale by re:worx on behalf of one of their customers for £5,995?
That's 6 grand innit
Link to advert? Its a good price but also reflects teh condition if its the one I might be thinking of.
I cant see one with a decent rebuild going to 4k. The rebuild will cost almost that alone so soon people will be buying em for engines if thats the price.
The re:worx one is in the mazdarotaryclub forums, haven't got a link to hand, but it should be easy to find.
This one seems not too bad a bet at £4750 with a recent rebuild by WGT
www.pistonheads.com/sales/125664.htm
trooperiziz said:
Pulsatingstar said:
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
iaint said:
trooperiziz said:
I don't think getting a good car with recent rebuild for around £4k will be too much of a problem, i'm in no rush...
Possibly not but, for 4k, what would you realistically expect? Most of the mint rx's still fetch decent money. A decent single for 5k? Expect problems unless the owner really needs to get rid for personal reasons. I suspect bargains are often because of known problems...
I totally agree, but I suspect that with the current prices as they are, the bargain cars that may have problems are likely to be the £3k cars
A decent single for £5k? How about the single currently up for sale by re:worx on behalf of one of their customers for £5,995?
That's 6 grand innit
Link to advert? Its a good price but also reflects teh condition if its the one I might be thinking of.
I cant see one with a decent rebuild going to 4k. The rebuild will cost almost that alone so soon people will be buying em for engines if thats the price.
The re:worx one is in the mazdarotaryclub forums, haven't got a link to hand, but it should be easy to find.
This one seems not too bad a bet at £4750 with a recent rebuild by WGT
www.pistonheads.com/sales/125664.htm
WGT have a good reputation and that looks like a nice enough car.
I think it may be a tourer, maybe a Type X, (Iain will probably be able to either confirm or correct as he knows a bit more about these than me) with it having leather and a sunroof. These had slightly lower BHP as standard and softer suspension so don't handle as sharply.
Having said that this car has been modded (minimum filter, intercooler and Apexi from the pics - guess therefore the exhaust will be aftermarket as well - so will have a respectable BHP and a Koni suspension upgrade will only be around £500 if you wanted to sharpen the handling up. Could be a good bet
Watch your head on the gauges when you get in though
All the best
DC
Edited by dai capp on Thursday 8th February 12:34
trooperiziz said:
This one seems not too bad a bet at £4750 with a recent rebuild by WGT
www.pistonheads.com/sales/125664.htm
www.pistonheads.com/sales/125664.htm
A WGT rebuild will weigh in at no less than 3k inclusive of minimum replacement parts. So that's £1750 for a FD.
Frigheteningly cheap and suspicious as hell.
Los Angeles said:
Gazboy said:
Los Angeles said:
The RX7 is a gas guzzler with a complicated engine, but in its day was considered an equal competitor to, or better than, the Porsche 944.
Er, hasn't it only got three moving parts?
Everyone bow down before the great LA. He is the Oracle for all things automotive.
He has spoken, cower before his demonstrable wisdom.
And don't put a turbo on your MX-5 or you're going to hell.
iaint said:
Yeah, I saw that one, my suspicion drive went to full throttle as I read the listing
Los Angeles said:
iaint said:
Everyone bow down. He is the Oracle for all things automotive. He has spoken, cower before his demonstrable wisdom. And don't put a turbo on your MX-5 or you're going to hell.
Relax. You only need eat my shorts. 
PS: Where did you read about not strapping a turbo to an MX5?
It might have been adding a supercharger you were against (destruction of the purity and moving away from the factory design goals that created the perfect motor car)...
I'm sure the thread could be dug up as it wasn't all that long ago. IIRC there were those more vocal and 'religious' about it but you can't blame a chap for a bit of LA bashing when the opportunity arises!
Has anyone got any info on slapping the wankel in an MX5?
Even one from a non-turbo FC would do, as 160BHP would be a giggle in an MX5.
I'd hope the non-turbo would use less fuel and possible be more reliable.
I know that buying an RX7 would be cheaper, but my drift MX5 handles just the way I want it and I'd rather have a 13B than go for forced induction on the 1.6 I4.
Even one from a non-turbo FC would do, as 160BHP would be a giggle in an MX5.
I'd hope the non-turbo would use less fuel and possible be more reliable.
I know that buying an RX7 would be cheaper, but my drift MX5 handles just the way I want it and I'd rather have a 13B than go for forced induction on the 1.6 I4.
Los Angeles said:
... In the end, why bother when you can buy the real thing in that car's elder sibling - the RX7?
Captain Muppet said:
I know that buying an RX7 would be cheaper, but my drift MX5 handles just the way I want it and I'd rather have a 13B than go for forced induction on the 1.6 I4.
Like I said. The MX5 has had a lot of time and grief put in to making it drift the way I like. I just want a bit more power to slot in over winter next year. MX5 is lighter than an RX7 too..
Captain Muppet said:
Has anyone got any info on slapping the wankel in an MX5?
Even one from a non-turbo FC would do, as 160BHP would be a giggle in an MX5.
I'd hope the non-turbo would use less fuel and possible be more reliable.
I know that buying an RX7 would be cheaper, but my drift MX5 handles just the way I want it and I'd rather have a 13B than go for forced induction on the 1.6 I4.
Even one from a non-turbo FC would do, as 160BHP would be a giggle in an MX5.
I'd hope the non-turbo would use less fuel and possible be more reliable.
I know that buying an RX7 would be cheaper, but my drift MX5 handles just the way I want it and I'd rather have a 13B than go for forced induction on the 1.6 I4.
Pretty sure it'll have been done. Check the Miata forums in the US or possibly the various US rotary forums. I've not come accross anyone doing this on the rotary fourms here in the UK in the last 4 years.
It wouldn't be a cheap exercise but would be very doable. Without all the turbo gubbins and extra cooling requirement the power adds it'd be simple enough to fit but you'd likely be looking at a reasonable cost for the ECU side of things to get EFI working. A carb solution would be cheaper but more prone to problems and limit things a bit.
A pheripheral ported N/A 13b could easily produce over 200bhp without too much work, which would be fun.
If you wanted N/A rotary power you could got for an FC (2nd gen rx-7) or FD (for that old-skool feel).
From what I've heard from people who've tried it the FD isn't ideal for drifting without some serious work - the steering rack's a little too slow for starters...
Los Angeles said:
iaint said:
It might have been adding a supercharger you were against (destruction of the purity and moving away from the factory design goals that created the perfect motor car)...
As I thought, you have no idea what I said. Clearly, must be my ageing memory letting me down.
Los Angeles said:
I steer clear of giving competitive advice for I have no need to be aggressive.
Sorry, didn't think I was being aggressive or competetive. Vaguely humerous was the intention, certainly didn't intend to put you down or scare you old chap.
Los Angeles said:
Having also worked closely with RX7 designers and devotees here in California - where the car was first cliniced and where there is a large and vociferous fan club - I also have some knowledge of the car and its driving characteristics.
Sorry, new word to me, what does it mean?
Los Angeles said:
However, I have kept my advice on this thread to the barest of short-hand because owners like you who currently run an RX7 have immediate experience of the UK car's strengths and foibles ... and have lots to say about it. If the originator of this thread thinks he needs more guidance he will ask for it. I may or may not respond depending on what he asks.
As is your right on a forum...
Los Angeles said:
Meanwhile, forget indulging in a bit of grand standing by poking someone you have never met in the eye on an Internet site. Use the time to drive your RX7. It's a good car.
Maybe we should meet up so I can poke you in the eye for being a condescending knobber?
Or maybe I'm just being oversensetive coz, being an RX-7, it's off at the doctors being rebuilt...
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