Skyline GT-R (34) vs Porsche 993 Turbo 4

[CarZee]

Come on then.. what's going to be the relative cost..

Let's talk about, say, a reliable 500BHP.

Drove a 500BHP 993T4 today and I'm utterly blown away by it.... can anyone offer a comparison?

[shadowninja]

One irritating thing I'm discovering...

A 993T4 is 408bhp as standard. You take it into an MOT garage and you pass. Or if you're stopped by those mobile testing gits you pass.

Take a 408bhp Skyline R3n to an MOT garage and you fail. Need a decat pipe, see... bit of a hassle to get it put on and off (yes you can do it yourself or pay someone but its more messing about than I want). And if you get caught by a mobile testing thing you get fined...

Just a thought.

[pesty]

993 T4 £35-40K go to G force and throw another £10k at them and you've got 500bhp(read in one of the Porsche mags last month)

don't know what the relative cost of a Skyline is but even though skylines are fantastic I know what I'd spend me cash on(if I had it)

[gazzab]

But do hairdressers need to drive that fast?

[DanBoy]

gazzab said:

But do hairdressers need to drive that fast?

Heyyyyyyyy that joke was funny a few times!

[andy mac]

gazzab said:

But do hairdressers need to drive that fast?

Of course... people lie yourselvs need to get their highlights done, and on short notice

[shadowninja]

Gazboy said:

shadowninja said: One irritating thing I'm discovering... A 993T4 is 408bhp as standard. You take it into an MOT garage and you pass. Or if you're stopped by those mobile testing gits you pass. Take a 408bhp Skyline R3n to an MOT garage and you fail. Need a decat pipe, see... bit of a hassle to get it put on and off (yes you can do it yourself or pay someone but its more messing about than I want). And if you get caught by a mobile testing thing you get fined... Just a thought. Competition cat?

is there a Crufts for cats?

Are such cats that good anyway? I'd like to hear from someone who has one on a highly tuned skyline and passes the emissions test first time. Everyone I know has a decat pipe...

[ro_butler]

Hmmmmm.

How long is a piece of string? For 500bhp I reckon the skyline is cheaper/better value. As has been mentioned you can pick up R33's with 500bhp quite cheaply. If you want much more than that it gets expensive.

Was the 993 a genuine 500bhp? Was that figure at the flywheel or at the wheels?

My R34 is yet to be dynoed so can't comment on mine, although I have a fairly good idea what to expect.

As regards cats, HKS do a sports cat which is not too restrictive. A guy in Japan is running 800bhp at the wheels using one.

[Neil_H]

I agree with Ro, I think bang-for-buck the Skyline wins, there was an R34 on Autotrader recently with 550bhp and was under 30 grand (it had about 80k miles on it though), I don't know many other cars with that kind of power available for under 30 grand.

I've never driven either so I wouldn't like to say which was more enjoyable.

There's an interesting R34 for sale at the moment, I shudder to think how much it has cost the owner to get to it's current spec, but it must be over £100k It's the one featured in the Skyline DVD going around the Nurburgring.

www.prospec-ms.co.uk/stocks/34_281.html



If I had 60k that's where I would be spending it (those stickers would have to go though).

[ro_butler]

I would personally be very wary of an R34 for under 30k. Obviously prices will fall in time but for now I wouldn't buy it.

Even though the cars are reliable there are plenty of dogs out there, often due to poor tuning work and neglect.

It is making 550bhp but I would want to make sure the work had been done by a top tuning firm. I'm sure all this applies to the porsche as well but take care if you are buying a skyline.

The black car is the prospec demonstrator and as such I'm sure a lot of the parts were obtained at cost. Still expensive though.

[granville]

Gazboy said:

16k is very cheap to demolish RUF R turbos!

Except it wouldn't.

[Mr E]

Mmmm. But Pauls Supra isn't tuned for pure power. It's tuned for driveability.

>> Edited by Mr E on Wednesday 24th March 16:10

[andysgriff]

not bad until you reach a corner....

[TimW]

Skyline anyday.!

[z064life]

Gazboy said:

andysgriff said: not bad until you reach a corner.... Blitz Supra monstered the 'Ring in 1997, in 8(or 7) mins and 49 seconds. I am told it was the fastest road legal time.

That would be 7 mins 49 secs. If it monstered the 'Ring, 8 mins 49 secs isn't competitive at all. A minute quicker is quicker than a lot of supercars.

[dinkel]

Some pretty quick laps here
www.corner-carvers.com/trackrecords/index.htm#Thunderhill

Do not underestimate (cheap compared to porker etc.) Japs
www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/roadtest/44256/article.html

www.onelapsupra.com/

Building a straight line monster is one thing . . . but building and driving a car that can take on the twisties in addition to do well in a straight line is quite another.
www.lilviv.com/supra/vivracng.html

It may be less stylish, plastic, noisy and a bit bold but boy do we have fun killing some megabuck supercars . . .

[deltaf]

Got a video clip somewhere of a road going supra on the rollers kicking out 847bhp...at the wheels, and reliably too.
I know where id spend the cash...sorry fritz!