335i Reliability
Discussion
TX1 said:
Would have thought similar to a e92 330i, had it done last month and its around the £200 mark
So oil services on E92 335i's and 330i's are more expensive at a main dealer than for an E46 M3? Surprised at that TBH although I guess (hope!) the Inspection 1 and Inspection 2 services are somewhat cheaper to compensate....?JNW1 said:
So oil services on E92 335i's and 330i's are more expensive at a main dealer than for an E46 M3? Surprised at that TBH although I guess (hope!) the Inspection 1 and Inspection 2 services are somewhat cheaper to compensate....?
They dont have I1 and I2 - its Condition Based Servicing instead. But yes, its all much cheaper. The M3 benefits from the 6+ discounts some dealers do giving it quite cheap oil services, the E92's are not old enough yet.Fox- said:
They dont have I1 and I2 - its Condition Based Servicing instead. But yes, its all much cheaper. The M3 benefits from the 6+ discounts some dealers do giving it quite cheap oil services, the E92's are not old enough yet.
Did think about the age aspect but my M3 never cost more than £150ish for an oil service and it was only about 18 months old when I got it! However, from memory Inspection 1 was over £500 and Inspection 2 closer to £800 so I'd hope a 335i would be less than that. Having said that, IMO the M3 is still reasonable to run for the type of car and I certainly never begrudged a penny spent on the CS!JNW1 said:
Did think about the age aspect but my M3 never cost more than £150ish for an oil service and it was only about 18 months old when I got it! However, from memory Inspection 1 was over £500 and Inspection 2 closer to £800 so I'd hope a 335i would be less than that. Having said that, IMO the M3 is still reasonable to run for the type of car and I certainly never begrudged a penny spent on the CS!
Not sure which main dealer you get your cars serviced at but I live in London and I'd be very surprised if my standard service was any less than £200 and in all likelyhood it would be closer to £300. My wife used to have a CLK, not a BMW I know but a comparable German marque and when it was in warranty, I took it to a main dealer to get it serviced and it cost me in the region of £280 IIRC and this was several years ago. When I asked around, that seemed to be the norm at a main dealer whereas a decent indy was closer to £150. This was with them suppliying the oil though.I've had my 2007 N54 335i since new and am on 100k miles now ! It had new turbos at 55k under warranty (wastegates went) and new injectors at about 75k. Just showing signs of the dreaded HPFP problem (alternating high/low revs followed by misfiring on cold start) but switch off and re-start solves it until the next day (although it doesn't always show the problem). No sign of anything nasty once you are on the move. I still have extended warranty so I'll get it sorted soon.
Otherwise it has been great. 32mpg (mostly M'way).
I still have 50k on the original brakes according to the iDrive which is pretty scary (prefer the accelerator to the brakes
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Otherwise it has been great. 32mpg (mostly M'way).
I still have 50k on the original brakes according to the iDrive which is pretty scary (prefer the accelerator to the brakes
)Guvernator said:
Not sure which main dealer you get your cars serviced at but I live in London and I'd be very surprised if my standard service was any less than £200 and in all likelyhood it would be closer to £300. My wife used to have a CLK, not a BMW I know but a comparable German marque and when it was in warranty, I took it to a main dealer to get it serviced and it cost me in the region of £280 IIRC and this was several years ago. When I asked around, that seemed to be the norm at a main dealer whereas a decent indy was closer to £150. This was with them suppliying the oil though.
Ah, so cheaper car servicing is yet another benefit of living in North Yorkshire! I use Stratstone in Harrogate and on the whole I've been pleased with the work they've done and haven't felt ripped-off with their prices (they'll actually negotiate to keep your business and will always price match or beat another main dealer); usually deal with a chap called Colin on their service desk and he's always very good. Can see that London prices will be higher, that's one of the reasons why although I quite like to visit I wouldn't want to live there! Edited by JNW1 on Friday 30th March 19:06
pilchardthecat said:
lepetitoeuf said:
I've only had mine for three months, but I put my '07 Sport Touring with 40k miles through Surrey Rolling Road a couple of weeks ago, it came out with 311.3bhp 
You've got the 335i Touring. I tried to buy one of those about 2 years ago - i think there are only about 4 in the entire universe. I see more Veyrons.Averages 27mpg about town and 32-35 when on the motorway. Better than my ST220 and spitting distance of my old 1.8 MX-5.
Loving it, just need to avoid the lure of a Qaife LSD and remap.
OP, I have a 135i on a 59 plate (I have had it since it was new in October 2009).
Three weeks ago, the high pressure fuel pump failed, at 12,700 miles or so. The car could still be driven, albeit with reduced power. In all fairness, BMW Assist were nothing short of excellent. Despite the failure occurring on a Sunday afternoon, the car was repaired by Tuesday morning. The pump was fitted on the Monday, but they had to run a computer update that takes about 5 hours, so the car was ready the following morning.
The technician who came to take the car on the Sunday said that he rarely sees the 135i or 335i. He said there are more problems with the diesel variants. Whilst it is tempting to suggest that a BMW technician might say that, BMW assist is, in fact, sub-contracted, and the technician said that he works on a number of marques.
Aside from the above, I have only had minor problems. There was some excess wind noise around the frameless windows, which my local dealer resolved easily. I also have a slight squeal from the rear brakes, which seems to be harder to sort out.
Aside from the above, the car has been faultless. I would go for a BMW warranty if you can: on my experience, the service is excellent. That said, I am aware of the fact that such things are variable and that there can be no guarantees of satisfaction.
In short, if it's your sort of car, you'll like it. I have had all sorts over the years, but I still enjoy mine after two and a half years and that's quite something for me.
I hope the above helps. Good luck.
Andy
Three weeks ago, the high pressure fuel pump failed, at 12,700 miles or so. The car could still be driven, albeit with reduced power. In all fairness, BMW Assist were nothing short of excellent. Despite the failure occurring on a Sunday afternoon, the car was repaired by Tuesday morning. The pump was fitted on the Monday, but they had to run a computer update that takes about 5 hours, so the car was ready the following morning.
The technician who came to take the car on the Sunday said that he rarely sees the 135i or 335i. He said there are more problems with the diesel variants. Whilst it is tempting to suggest that a BMW technician might say that, BMW assist is, in fact, sub-contracted, and the technician said that he works on a number of marques.
Aside from the above, I have only had minor problems. There was some excess wind noise around the frameless windows, which my local dealer resolved easily. I also have a slight squeal from the rear brakes, which seems to be harder to sort out.
Aside from the above, the car has been faultless. I would go for a BMW warranty if you can: on my experience, the service is excellent. That said, I am aware of the fact that such things are variable and that there can be no guarantees of satisfaction.
In short, if it's your sort of car, you'll like it. I have had all sorts over the years, but I still enjoy mine after two and a half years and that's quite something for me.
I hope the above helps. Good luck.
Andy
pilchardthecat said:
I suspect the fact that the bmw engineer sees more diesels with problems is that diesels outnumber 135 and 335is by a factor of ten gazillion.
Fair point. I did not ask him whether he was speaking in absolute or relative terms, but from the context of the conversation the logical inference was that, in his opinion, the petrol engines cause fewer problems. Personally, I have no idea whether that is correct. I have a lot of respect for BMW diesels and I do not want to be responsible for the start of yet another diesel versus petrol debate!Sadly, my 135 goes back in September. As we have a building project to finance I will be driving something less interesting: looking at Mark V Golf GTis at the moment. Mind you, I could perhaps do better: it was E39 M5s for less than £10k the other week ...
Andy
JNW1 said:
Ah, so cheaper car servicing is yet another benefit of living in North Yorkshire! I use Stratstone in Harrogate and on the whole I've been pleased with the work they've done and haven't felt ripped-off with their prices (they'll actually negotiate to keep your business and will always price match or beat another main dealer); usually deal with a chap called Colin on their service desk and he's always very good. Can see that London prices will be higher, that's one of the reasons why although I quite like to visit I wouldn't want to live there!
Yep, someone has to pay for those big flashy offices in the posh parts of London! I am not too far from the outskirts of London tbh so I may call a few dealers outside and shop around. Ideally I'd like to renew the warranty as then it takes all the worry out of 335i ownership but I'm not going to get shafted on servicing for the priveleage.Edited by JNW1 on Friday 30th March 19:06
BarryGibb said:
I know someone with a 330i - it has been back to the dealer numerous times with engine issues, and puts out <250bhp on the dyno - I wouldn't touch one without a cast iron warranty.
Interesting and disturbing to hear this - I was considering one myself and need more research. Edited by a_bread on Saturday 31st March 22:34
lepetitoeuf said:
Guvernator said:
Yep, someone has to pay for those big flashy offices in the posh parts of London!
After buying my 335i I went online to locate where my nearest BMW dealership would be. It's Park Lane BMW, but I think I will look at going in the other direction, out of town for servicing...Gassing Station | BMW General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff