E36 cheap track day toy

E36 cheap track day toy

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TroubledSoul

4,600 posts

195 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Cheers thumbup

E-bmw

9,236 posts

153 months

Wednesday 6th April 2016
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Now you have had them on a little while what are your views on the Nankangs?

Which compound/size did you buy?

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Thursday 7th April 2016
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225/45 R 17 in the harder compound. Honestly I think they are great. So much more grip than the standard road tyres I had on before. They have worked quite well in the rain to surprisingly.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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Somewhat off topic but I want to change the suspension on my E36 328 for something taughter. Don't want to ruin the ride comfort entirely as it will be a 95% road car and don't want it too low. Any ideas?

Searching on the net brings all sorts of ideas but it leaves me more confused!

Looking at ARBs, bushes, steering rack etc. eventually as well.

TroubledSoul

4,600 posts

195 months

Friday 8th April 2016
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SidewaysSi said:
Somewhat off topic but I want to change the suspension on my E36 328 for something taughter. Don't want to ruin the ride comfort entirely as it will be a 95% road car and don't want it too low. Any ideas?

Searching on the net brings all sorts of ideas but it leaves me more confused!

Looking at ARBs, bushes, steering rack etc. eventually as well.
Not sure if these are still available but might be worth a pop?
http://e36coupe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t...

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Saturday 16th April 2016
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So there is good news and bad news.

The good news! My beautiful fiancé bought me an M3 front bumper for my birthday. Hopefully this will supply a bit of front downforce and a couple more updates for the thread.

The bad news. I am still suffering a lot with my back. I am now booked for a spinal procedure in a couple of weeks. Which is literally the day before I was planning on doing a track day. I'm not sure when I can squeeze another in. I have no holiday left and there don't seem to be any weekend ones local until about October.

tonycott

132 posts

193 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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Hi Hamster

This is a great thread, I've got an E36 318is that i'm just about to modify for track days. There is some good info here but could you please give me some advice of what I should change first i.e with out changing all the bushes to poly are there a few that are a must.

I'm planning on

17" wheels, Hopefully road/track tyres
Bucket seats/harnesses
EBC yellow or mintex m series pads.
Coilovers with original top mounts
Change wishbones/arms/links (complete sets on ebay £105)
Service and change all fluids.
K&N panel filter or maybe an induction.


Anything I'm missing that is a must?











TroubledSoul

4,600 posts

195 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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tonycott said:
Hi Hamster

This is a great thread, I've got an E36 318is that i'm just about to modify for track days. There is some good info here but could you please give me some advice of what I should change first i.e with out changing all the bushes to poly are there a few that are a must.

I'm planning on

17" wheels, Hopefully road/track tyres
Bucket seats/harnesses
EBC yellow or mintex m series pads.
Coilovers with original top mounts
Change wishbones/arms/links (complete sets on ebay £105)
Service and change all fluids.
K&N panel filter or maybe an induction.


Anything I'm missing that is a must?
Unless they are new, replace the top mounts too. However, beware cheap wishbones etc. The bushes and ball joints with these things tend not to last very long. Buy cheap, buy twice.

Look for Meyle HD or Lemforder for stuff like that. Those are the top quality brands that BMW and others use themselves.

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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I agree, the balance between cheep and good is one you must make for yourself. I must admit I have bought cheap arms and they haven't lasted many miles. But in reality the car doesn't do many miles.
What your car needs first is kind of dictated by what car needs to start with. One of the first things I did was lower arms and powerflex bushes. But that was because the bushes on the car were knackered.

In general you want, stiff suspension, grippy tyres, better brakes and more power.

But I would just do anything it needs. Then go do a trackday. See where your weak points are, then invest in that area.

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Monday 18th April 2016
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tonycott said:
Hi Hamster




Anything I'm missing that is a must?
To quote Colin Chapman

"Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere".

Throw away everything you don't need.

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Tuesday 19th April 2016
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So that was a fun week. Last Saturday I set about replacing the perished brake hoses on the estate. Trying for a bit of an overhaul, sand blasting the calipers and replacing the nipples like I have on the coupe.



Didn't come out to bad really. All was going smoothly until I bolted the pipe back up on the N/S/R. Sprayed the union off and watched it drip and drip and drip. The pipe had cracked on the corner. The corrosion obviously being worse than I thought. Now starts the real work. Had to replace the pipe right from the calipers hose, up over the fuel tank, full length of the car and up to the ABS pump.
I then decided that I would very carefully inspect the rest and wasn't happy with one bend on the O/S/F. Now this pipe runs behind the engine. I'm not dropping the engine to replace one pipe, especially when I intend to remove the engine in the future. So I routed the new coper pipe over the engine. I will run it in properly when the engine is out. Finally one week after I started I got the brakes bled.



With the new discs on and braided hoses, I have a nice smoothly braking car.

I was given a small amount of money from my mum for my birthday. Which I have decided to spend on some new front shocks and a set of springs. The O/S shock is leaking and both the springs and shocks are very corroded.
I'm not going with racing coilovers or anything like that. But I am still me, so APEX lowering springs and sports shocks ordered.

TroubledSoul

4,600 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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Good work. I have to make new rear brake pipes as part of my long list of jobs, and that will involve removal of the tank etc. Not really looking forward to it.

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Wednesday 20th April 2016
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Yeah, I didn't take the tank out. All the fixings look like they would snap. Managed to feed the pipe over and clip it in either side of the tank. It should be supported enough.

TroubledSoul

4,600 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st April 2016
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Well I have to do the 2nd fuel pump mod on the M3 also, so I will need to get that done at the same time. Big job I reckon!

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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So I had my spinal procedure on Monday. Despite spending a few days feeling like I had a wallop in the happy sacks, I am now starting to feel a whole lot better.
So my mind is starting to return to cars. Found a couple of track days that I should be able to attend. I just need to get the estate finished off, then I can play. It would of coarse have helped if the suspension springs had turned up, but never mind.
The only thing on my mind about the estate now is the rediculose gear ratios. As it is the 328 lump is being pumped through the standard 318 diff. I'm sure on track it would make for good fun. But as I spend an hour a day in the thing commuting, it seems silly to be revving all the time for very little speed.
I don't want to go through all the palaver of fitting a medium case diff into a small diff car again, especially as the long term idea is to put a 318 lump back in it again. But I think I have found a simple way round it.
A 318tds had a 2.79 diff in a small case? This is much closer to the 328i's 2.93 ratio than the 318i's 3.45.
If the diff cases are both the same, i.e. small. The differentials should be easily swappable shouldn't they? Or does anyone know something about diesel diffs I don't?!

Dom3660

2 posts

96 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Spent the last few evenings reading through this....

Excellent work...
In the process of building a 318ti into a fast road/track toy.

Ive noticed you run performance friction pads are these on stock calipers/discs or are they 6 pot set up I cant seem to for the life of me remember

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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They are currently on the stock callipers. With good quality discs (Brembo) and braided hoses she stops ok.

Dom3660

2 posts

96 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Thanks for the fast reply smile

Look forward to more updates. Hoping to post my build on here, currently collecting parts so I can do the build all in one go as my base car needs A LOT of work

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

177 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Hi Hamster


318is owner here, what pads did you go for after you were having trouble with the Ferodos?

Just noticed your exhaust, what back box have you got?

Also what was Brands Hatch like getting up the hills in a 318.

Hamster69

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747 posts

147 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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The pads are performance friction carbon metallics. They really are good.
The back box was simply an eBay purchase, it's not really branded.
Brands was really good fun though expensive. My car didn't really struggle but the engine isn't exactly standard.