F31 335d xDrive - experiences?

[Welshbeef]

Fox- said:

Welshbeef said:

You will not see 60mpg at M way speed in a 335d you will in a 330d easily. Heck you can get it into 70mpg if you ease off a bit.

These seem like ridiculous fantasy numbers. Ok mine is a 530d but I can't see 100kg less weight adding 10mpg..

Well my F10 535d does low to mid 40’s normally and long run 45-50mpg. The 535d uses more dino juice than the 530d.
Also I’ve tested the F30 330d maiden and driven hard then sensiblaly over many hours I know what it can do+ I know what it’s older Feb 231bhp 6 speed auto could do as I owned it for 3-4 years

[smashy]

Coming back on the m4 middle of night 330d f30 to help keep awake little test 15 miles at 80mph gave me 46mpg reset 15 miles at 70mph gave me 56mpg both in comfort...then 15 miles reset at 55-60mph in eco pro couldn't keep same speed 're lorries gave me a crazy 72 mpg

[Welshbeef]

smashy said:

Coming back on the m4 middle of night 330d f30 to help keep awake little test 15 miles at 80mph gave me 46mpg reset 15 miles at 70mph gave me 56mpg both in comfort...then 15 miles reset at 55-60mph in eco pro couldn't keep same speed 're lorries gave me a crazy 72 mpg

I keep telling people the F30 330d is a superb car actually every 330d always was always will be great Cars.

Fast tick
Great handling tick
Ability to give Mpg a 320d could only dream of
Sounds - not too bad, not perfect but far far far from st dagadaga 4 pot banger

[smashy]

Hello welshbeef every year I'll do Cornwall about 700 miles all in 2 years in my 120d auto 177bhp auto both averaged 44mpg 2 years in the 330d 45 and 46 mpg comfort and some sport(Don't like the heavy steering in sport) No eco pro... It's the gradient roads that kills it.....I will be so sad to see the end of this engine 're the op I would go petrol rather than 335d

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[Fox-]

Welshbeef said:

Well my F10 535d does low to mid 40’s normally and long run 45-50mpg. The 535d uses more dino juice than the 530d.
Also I’ve tested the F30 330d maiden and driven hard then sensiblaly over many hours I know what it can do+ I know what it’s older Feb 231bhp 6 speed auto could do as I owned it for 3-4 years

I drive my 530d reasonably sedately on long trips, I observe the speed limit on the Motorways etc etc and I'm pleased if its doing 50mpg. The idea of it doing noticeable more than this no matter how careful I am with it feels like a fantasy.

[Mr Whippy]

The diesels are good but not sensational.

In the end they're always in big heavy cars and any kind of stop/start driving or whatever dents economy.

My Z4 is averaging 32mpg on the readout right now, the 335d driving similar runs is 39mpg.


Only a plonker would read modern book figures for economy and believe them.
For diesels book figures were bks as soon as co2 ratings became a thing, then petroleum followed suit when they all went turbo.

Massaging numbers for the tests, but not being indicative of reality.

[Welshbeef]

Fox- said:

I drive my 530d reasonably sedately on long trips, I observe the speed limit on the Motorways etc etc and I'm pleased if its doing 50mpg. The idea of it doing noticeable more than this no matter how careful I am with it feels like a fantasy.

When you put it in Eco Pro and drive at 65mph for long periods what MPG does that give.

[smashy]

Mr whippy I think my 330d IS sensational POWER/MPG I'm a fanboy I guess

[Fox-]

Welshbeef said:

When you put it in Eco Pro and drive at 65mph for long periods what MPG does that give.

I've no idea, why would I drive for long periods at 65mph?

I do exactly that but at 70mph and it does 50mpg.

[anonymous-user]

Had a brief play with a 335d from the lights at the weekend (Leeds ring road, near Wortley). Floored it up to the 40 limit and the 335d was ahead. Bloody quick it was and clouds of black soot, to boot.

[Osinjak]

janesmith1950 said:

Had a brief play with a 335d from the lights at the weekend (Leeds ring road, near Wortley). Floored it up to the 40 limit and the 335d was ahead. Bloody quick it was and clouds of black soot, to boot.

That's definitely not normal. What were you driving anyway?

[Welshbeef]

Fox- said:

I've no idea, why would I drive for long periods at 65mph?

I do exactly that but at 70mph and it does 50mpg.

Say it’s a business trip and the time you gave to arrive there turns out to be too much/no traffic issues st all so ease off a touch save a boat load in fuel.

No other reason unless you’ve no fuel left in the tank.

[anonymous-user]

Osinjak said:

That's definitely not normal. What were you driving anyway?

F80 M3 Comp pack.

Guy in the 335 was a nutter, must have reached well over 60 before swerving around a car that emerged from the central reservation.

[Mr Whippy]

Welshbeef said:

In tiptronic mode and dealing with roundabouts junctions it’s dead simple.

Paddles are rotating, or you have to take a hand off wheel to shift the lever.

Ooor, you leave it in sport auto and its revving the crap out of it and playing loud noises waking your baby up, rather than just using the torque.

It's a frustrating omission in the selections and/or the standard gearbox shifting patterns in sport.


All I want is sport steering and throttle, but comfort shifting.

Or just shift sport throttle over to chassis, then turn off sport drivetrain from sport mode.

[Fox-]

Mr Whippy said:

Paddles are rotating, or you have to take a hand off wheel to shift the lever.

Ooor, you leave it in sport auto and its revving the crap out of it and playing loud noises waking your baby up, rather than just using the torque.

It's a frustrating omission in the selections and/or the standard gearbox shifting patterns in sport.


All I want is sport steering and throttle, but comfort shifting.

Or just shift sport throttle over to chassis, then turn off sport drivetrain from sport mode.

What is infuriating is that you used to be able to do this, my pre LCI F10 allowed configuration of sport mode and I had it set exactly how you wish.

At some point they disabled this and now you can only configure sport if you have an active damping system so my LCI F10 won't let me do it.

Very annoying.

[Mr Whippy]

Anyone know if 335d is a bdm job for ecu data tweaking?

Wonder if an obd tool/support will arrive.


Did a 0-60-85 ish today.

Pretty brisk but no drama in it.

The cars performance shines more in-gear... so sad then that the stupid bloody gearbox needs to be in manual to enjoy the wafty torque.

What turd at BMW put 320d calibrations on for the 335d!!?

[Welshbeef]

Mr Whippy said:

Paddles are rotating, or you have to take a hand off wheel to shift the lever.

Ooor, you leave it in sport auto and its revving the crap out of it and playing loud noises waking your baby up, rather than just using the torque.

It's a frustrating omission in the selections and/or the standard gearbox shifting patterns in sport.


All I want is sport steering and throttle, but comfort shifting.

Or just shift sport throttle over to chassis, then turn off sport drivetrain from sport mode.

I always have the setting as comfort drivetrain but sport suspension.

If I want sport gearbox I knock the leaver over to DS.

I have tried it in Sport with Sport drivetrain and suspension for long cross country trips say 30-60 Miles. Oddly my expectation that it would guzzle fuel was very wrong it hardly uses any more but what a different beast.

[Mr Whippy]

I'm annoyed I couldn't even find a car at 3 dealers that had adaptive susp even to try!
There were 3ers with it but not with SE suspension.

BMW were in my view terrible at selling their product.


I'm slightly tempted to buy a new one with right spec next year on amazing end of life offers, but I've no idea how to even try these things out when no dealers have decent demonstrator models.



Has anyone here got a 335d xd and an F30 m3?

Is the M3 similar on comfort?

As much as the 335d is nice, jumping from my z4 to 335d I'm feeling there is scope for a better compromise.

If the M3 can go over bumps like a 335d but be more like the z4 in feel I'd be happier I think.

[julian64]

Mr Whippy said:

I'm annoyed I couldn't even find a car at 3 dealers that had adaptive susp even to try!
There were 3ers with it but not with SE suspension.

BMW were in my view terrible at selling their product.


I'm slightly tempted to buy a new one with right spec next year on amazing end of life offers, but I've no idea how to even try these things out when no dealers have decent demonstrator models.



Has anyone here got a 335d xd and an F30 m3?

Is the M3 similar on comfort?

As much as the 335d is nice, jumping from my z4 to 335d I'm feeling there is scope for a better compromise.

If the M3 can go over bumps like a 335d but be more like the z4 in feel I'd be happier I think.

Okay just test drove an M3 and currently have a 335xd F30

The M3 is harsher on the road but feels more nimble than the 335xd. 'Comfort' on the M3 feels like sport on the 335xd. P.S I have adaptive on the 335 and 19" wheels

[anonymous-user]

Mr Whippy said:

I'm annoyed I couldn't even find a car at 3 dealers that had adaptive susp even to try!
There were 3ers with it but not with SE suspension.

BMW were in my view terrible at selling their product.


I'm slightly tempted to buy a new one with right spec next year on amazing end of life offers, but I've no idea how to even try these things out when no dealers have decent demonstrator models.



Has anyone here got a 335d xd and an F30 m3?

Is the M3 similar on comfort?

As much as the 335d is nice, jumping from my z4 to 335d I'm feeling there is scope for a better compromise.

If the M3 can go over bumps like a 335d but be more like the z4 in feel I'd be happier I think.

Erm, no. The M3 at its most compliant is not as soft as a 335d in any mode. My M140 before it was much softer than the M3. I'm happy with mine being firm, however my wife's Passat rides like a limo in comparison.