F10 530d v 535d
Discussion
cycle tramp said:
If its the same upgrade as BMW offer on the F30 series 330d, its a complete waste of money.
The BMW Performance Power Kit (PPK) I had fitted to my 2014 F31 330d made a negligible performance increase, whilst causing the fuel consumption to increase dramatically and making the gearbox really busy, causing it to shuffle up and down the ratios constantly in response to the slightest throttle input even on the motorway. After a few weeks BMW agreed to take it all off and revert the car to standard and it was a great improvement.
A tuning box is probably a better option if its extra power thats wanted.
For an alternative view there is a prominent poster on here who loved it had it rolling roaded at 299bhp(yes I realise there are issues with those tests) He said comfort felt like sport without the issue of a tightened steering wheelThe BMW Performance Power Kit (PPK) I had fitted to my 2014 F31 330d made a negligible performance increase, whilst causing the fuel consumption to increase dramatically and making the gearbox really busy, causing it to shuffle up and down the ratios constantly in response to the slightest throttle input even on the motorway. After a few weeks BMW agreed to take it all off and revert the car to standard and it was a great improvement.
A tuning box is probably a better option if its extra power thats wanted.
Just my 2p
The F30 330d is a great car - I had a long 3 hour test drive in one 4 up (2+2kids) driving it hard most of the time superb handling really tight and the power was great.
It had the M Pack on it too blue caliper a etc.
I would have gone for it had the £ ready to buy it but then saw my 535d which was cheaper had so much more kit and the interior was in a different league + expanding family meant it was a no brainer. I wasn't expecting that.
Economy in the 330d is simply absurd and it really does it
It had the M Pack on it too blue caliper a etc.
I would have gone for it had the £ ready to buy it but then saw my 535d which was cheaper had so much more kit and the interior was in a different league + expanding family meant it was a no brainer. I wasn't expecting that.
Economy in the 330d is simply absurd and it really does it
BMRuss said:
sak83 said:
What sort of deal did you get? i have been deliberating over a new car and am considering the f10 as its coming to the end of production and expect there to be good deals out there.
I'm paying £346.00 per month, 6 months down, 12k p.a.that's over 2 years.
Add in what £0.13 pence per mile for fuel
Zero MOT
Zero tyres
Zero servicing
That's actually a cheap deal - it is hard to get your head around the fact you have nothing at the end of 2 years simply you've had its value in those 24 months.
Or really £418pcm all up - add fuel and VED c£500pcm all in to run it for the miles allowed.
My last car was an F11 530d and my current car is an F11 535d.
My experience with slightly different spec levels is that I much prefer the low down torque available from the get go which the smaller turbo in the 535 offers.
Essential extras for me would be flappy paddles, sports seats (if you aren't getting the sport spec) and sunroof (not everyone would agree on this one!).
I was surprised to find that my one error of judgment on spec was not to have got the dynamic suspension - I had it on the last car and thought it was a novelty which could possibly be more trouble long term if it went wrong than benefit. But I have to admit, this is the one option which I really miss and, were I specifying a car today it would be near the top of my must have options. If you are cruising on a poorly surfaced road, the comfort setting turns the car into a bit of a floating Citroen luxo-barge; and if you want to press on, the sport setting really helps tighten the whole thing up (for what is admittedly a near two tonne barge!). To the OP, please give this one a think if you haven't already/ if not too late.
Peter
My experience with slightly different spec levels is that I much prefer the low down torque available from the get go which the smaller turbo in the 535 offers.
Essential extras for me would be flappy paddles, sports seats (if you aren't getting the sport spec) and sunroof (not everyone would agree on this one!).
I was surprised to find that my one error of judgment on spec was not to have got the dynamic suspension - I had it on the last car and thought it was a novelty which could possibly be more trouble long term if it went wrong than benefit. But I have to admit, this is the one option which I really miss and, were I specifying a car today it would be near the top of my must have options. If you are cruising on a poorly surfaced road, the comfort setting turns the car into a bit of a floating Citroen luxo-barge; and if you want to press on, the sport setting really helps tighten the whole thing up (for what is admittedly a near two tonne barge!). To the OP, please give this one a think if you haven't already/ if not too late.
Peter
northpolar said:
I was surprised to find that my one error of judgment on spec was not to have got the dynamic suspension - I had it on the last car and thought it was a novelty which could possibly be more trouble long term if it went wrong than benefit. But I have to admit, this is the one option which I really miss and, were I specifying a car today it would be near the top of my must have options. If you are cruising on a poorly surfaced road, the comfort setting turns the car into a bit of a floating Citroen luxo-barge; and if you want to press on, the sport setting really helps tighten the whole thing up (for what is admittedly a near two tonne barge!). To the OP, please give this one a think if you haven't already/ if not too late.
Peter
Is your 535 an M Sport?Peter
I had a 2010 530d SE for a few years and although I initially found the suspension to be fine the more I got to know the car the more I realised that the body control was fairly poor and it wasn't rewarding me for that compromise with super pliant suspension. However I now have an LCI M Sport and the M Sport suspension has righted almost all of the wrongs - it rides no worse yet is far more composed in corners. As a long term purchase I too wrestled with the idea that Adaptive Drive might become a pain in the backside after a few years - the dampers are £1k a corner for example - so was in the end glad the car that finally fit my requirements had passive suspension.
Re real world mpg, I may not be the best exemplar - I regularly managed better than 30mpg when I ran a 996 targa!
I have not noticed much difference between the two. My 530 was 2010 build and the 535 is 2013. I don't do regular mileage due to living and working in central London. A couple of weeks ago I drove up to Scotland and back (I was up there for a week). With the 535, and bearing in mind the amount of speed control encountered on the motorway network, I averaged just over 45mpg. There were two of us in the car, along with a bike and lots of (unnecessary!) luggage.
I think that's pretty fab for such a heavy car with over 300bhp (albeit I wasn't exactly caning it!!). I don't think I would get much better from the 530. With the auto box these things sit around 1,500rpm at 70mph which makes for very civil cruising.
If you need much better economy than this then you really need to look in the direction of the latest breed of four cylinder engines. For me that would be a step in the wrong direction in terms of power available and refinement.
In terms of suspension, my last car was an SE with sports seats and dynamic suspension; my current car is a sport without the dynamic set up. Given the choice, I'd go for the SE with dynamic every time - much better body control in sport setting; and much more comfortable in comfort mode. The Sport is fine as an all round compromise, I just prefer the dynamic options for different circumstances/ moods and I miss not having it!
Peter
I have not noticed much difference between the two. My 530 was 2010 build and the 535 is 2013. I don't do regular mileage due to living and working in central London. A couple of weeks ago I drove up to Scotland and back (I was up there for a week). With the 535, and bearing in mind the amount of speed control encountered on the motorway network, I averaged just over 45mpg. There were two of us in the car, along with a bike and lots of (unnecessary!) luggage.
I think that's pretty fab for such a heavy car with over 300bhp (albeit I wasn't exactly caning it!!). I don't think I would get much better from the 530. With the auto box these things sit around 1,500rpm at 70mph which makes for very civil cruising.
If you need much better economy than this then you really need to look in the direction of the latest breed of four cylinder engines. For me that would be a step in the wrong direction in terms of power available and refinement.
In terms of suspension, my last car was an SE with sports seats and dynamic suspension; my current car is a sport without the dynamic set up. Given the choice, I'd go for the SE with dynamic every time - much better body control in sport setting; and much more comfortable in comfort mode. The Sport is fine as an all round compromise, I just prefer the dynamic options for different circumstances/ moods and I miss not having it!
Peter
Thanks Northpolar fair dos you cant compare the iron 3 ltr of 2010 to the one in mine I think there is a pretty big difference between the two new engines MPG wise you mention I reckon your 45 mpg is my 55 mpg mind you yours is a 5 series mine 3. I have seen 61 on a clear middle of the night 50 miles around the M25
Welshbeef said:
No it changed from from the 295bhp version to the 313bhp version.
Pretty sure it's 299bhp, and it is the same engine pretty much. I've never seen any actual differences between the N57D30T0 and N57D30T1 documented.Edit: or were the 530 and the 535 being compared?
Edited by Mr_Yogi on Saturday 3rd September 19:27
Edited by Mr_Yogi on Saturday 3rd September 20:01
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