F10 530d v 535d

[Welshbeef]

smashy said:

Fox are you sure it was at the sane time? I think when the aluminium 258bhp 3ltr came out for quite a while it was recognised as faster then the iron block twin turbos going in at the same time 5.6 as opposed 6.1 2013 for the 313bhp twin ...

I think you are confused the last iron block 3ltr BMW was the 231bhp unit ie the 286bhp x35d.

[smashy]

Fair enough all anally interesting though

[Welshbeef]

The 3ltr 330d has done the following

184bhp E46 5 speed auto tailpipies down turned
204bhp E46 6 Speed auto straight tailpipes like the 330i/all inline 6's
231bhp E90 6 speed auto
245bhp E90 6 speed auto alloy from now onwards
258bhp F30 8 Speed auto


The 335d has done
286bhp E90 6 speed auto
313bhp F30 8 speed auto alloy

The 535d
272bhp E60 6 speed auto
286bhp E60 6 speed auto
299bhp F10 8 speed auto alloy now inwards
313bhp F10 8 speed auto
386bhp F10 M550d 8 speed auto

I cannot recall the 530d's changes through its life none the less what I find very interesting is that with each incarnation you get more power but you also get more Mpg and like for like it's genuine.

To think the original 330d managed 8.3 seconds to 62mph and 32mpg which at the time was mighty impressive to today 5.6seconds 56mpg and 40% more power. How long before a standard 330d from BMW produces 300bhp out of the box and sneaks under 5 seconds to 62mph. It is the accountants car - whereas the 535d is the naughty accoubtants car. And the C5 RS6 is a madman.

[smashy]

Aha didnt know about the 5 series 299bhp version im rjght re F30 i reckon...welshbeef spent the day recently in an RS7 it was too much relieved to get back in my car which surprised me must be getting old

[Welshbeef]

smashy said:

Aha didnt know about the 5 series 299bhp version im rjght re F30 i reckon...welshbeef spent the day recently in an RS7 it was too much relieved to get back in my car which surprised me must be getting old

I loved my C5 RS6.
Noise
Totally flat cornering
Grip off the line staggering
Noise
Starting it up
Wide open throttle through tunnels with roof and windows down.
The ability to overtake literally anything without issue.
5 speed with 3rd good for 120mph so 40mph overtakes drop to 3rd foot to the floor hold on v
The fact I ran one for a year as a daily - bonkers but fun.
It's utterly manic top end 5,000-7,500 rpm was a wail into a scream from the engine.

Annoying bits - I found that every single commute I'd be blasting through the 100mph very often
You had chavs in Motuned up Focus STs at the lights
Concerns about reliability/if anything goes wrong it's going to be a huge cost.
Couldn't park it anywhere it's a highly desirable and easily stolen vehicle.
Knew petrol station staff very very well

But for most of my drives the 535d wouldn't have been that far behind with well well over double the economy zero reliability concerns modern safe etc.

[Fox-]

smashy said:

Fox are you sure it was at the sane time? I think when the aluminium 258bhp 3ltr came out for quite a while it was recognised as faster then the iron block twin turbos going in at the same time 5.6 as opposed 6.1 2013 for the 313bhp twin ...

Iron to Alu change was M57 to N57 - all F10's have N57 engines from start of production. September 11 production, for MY12, moved to the revised N57 offering 313bhp in the 35d and 258bhp in the 30d.

They are easily spotted by the presence of the start/stop on/off button under the Engine Start button in the cabin.

[DuckDuck]

Fox- said:

smashy said:

Fox are you sure it was at the sane time? I think when the aluminium 258bhp 3ltr came out for quite a while it was recognised as faster then the iron block twin turbos going in at the same time 5.6 as opposed 6.1 2013 for the 313bhp twin ...

Iron to Alu change was M57 to N57 - all F10's have N57 engines from start of production. September 11 production, for MY12, moved to the revised N57 offering 313bhp in the 35d and 258bhp in the 30d.

They are easily spotted by the presence of the start/stop on/off button under the Engine Start button in the cabin.

All 535d from LCI e60/61 through to the current engine have aluminium blocks.

[Welshbeef]

DuckDuck said:

All 535d from LCI e60/61 through to the current engine have aluminium blocks.

No they have not the 286bhp unit is cast iron just like the 335d.

[Fox-]

Welshbeef said:

No they have not the 286bhp unit is cast iron just like the 335d.

He's actually spot on - the M57 went Alu right near the end of production it seems.

[BMRuss]

rb5201 said:

Hey bmruss how you finding this car? I've got one on order but have a delivery date of end of November. Time is going so slow!!

Great car mate, mine is a little poverty spec, but the engine and gearbox are fantastic, bit small for me now so moving to it's big brother, I'm sure you'll love it!

[BMRuss]

clumsen said:

SOLD

I have PM you.

Back at you.