E91 Straight Six Bearding

E91 Straight Six Bearding

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g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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gizlaroc said:
I used to get the EML light on using Sainsbury fuel, took me 12 months to realise.

I used to use the Sainsbury on the A11 when going to London and running late, used Shell V or Tesco 99 all the other times, so took ages to realise.

Started using nothing but Shell V and Tesco 99 and never had the EML light on again.
Sold the car and the guy called up saying EML light on, dealer wanted to change Nox or O2 sesnors at £600. I convinced him it was probably the fuel he was using, he said after a tank of super the light went out and stayed out.
I was thinking that actually (and seen in mentioned on forums before). Got 3/4 tank remaining of ASDA (council) petrol and will stick in some Tesco 99 and see how things go.

MajorMantra said:
A cheap code reader is hugely helpful for stuff like this. Sub-£10 on ebay. The engine light comes on for all sorts of reasons, some of them relatively trivial. In my case it was fixed by new Vanos solenoids, which are very easy to fit.
I thought it would be. Which would you recommend? There seem to be loads out there.

Is this the same thing as the Carly reader (or is that to actually program codes etc)?

Swervin_Mervin

4,452 posts

238 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Be aware, when it comes to code readers, I've had a BT one that didn't work at all on my E91 but worked fine on our old F20. Currently I've borrowed a C110+ which works absolutely fine. I just need to look into whether I can output the datastream in any way.

Or I'll buy a pre-packaged INPA laptop from ebay for a few notes.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Be aware, when it comes to code readers, I've had a BT one that didn't work at all on my E91 but worked fine on our old F20. Currently I've borrowed a C110+ which works absolutely fine. I just need to look into whether I can output the datastream in any way.

Or I'll buy a pre-packaged INPA laptop from ebay for a few notes.
Ok, seems complicated and as mentioned lots on ebay to choose from!

Just gone out on a visit and the EML light was off. Would codes from when it was on stay on the system or is it pointless to take it for diagnostics now?

Is this Creator C310 any good? is it better to spend more and get one with more (fancy) features?

I'm happy to be guided by the Beards. biggrin

Edited by g3org3y on Tuesday 11th June 14:14

stevesuk

1,346 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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g3org3y said:
Ok, seems complicated and as mentioned lots on ebay to choose from!
I had a USB <-> diagnostics port cable, and an old laptop on which I installed INPA. Worked fine with my E46, but would never stay connected with the E91. It can take a lot of fiddling smile

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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stevesuk said:
g3org3y said:
Ok, seems complicated and as mentioned lots on ebay to choose from!
I had a USB <-> diagnostics port cable, and an old laptop on which I installed INPA. Worked fine with my E46, but would never stay connected with the E91. It can take a lot of fiddling smile
So what did (do) you use on the E91? Something else?

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Carly is very good. Does diagnostics, and coding too. I've had it for a few years and it's worked well on all sorts of cars. Will even work fine with your E36. smile

helix402

7,861 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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C310 is the newer version of the 110. I have ISTA D, Inpa, Carly and DIS. The little Creator I have is still handy.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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JakeT said:
Carly is very good. Does diagnostics, and coding too. I've had it for a few years and it's worked well on all sorts of cars. Will even work fine with your E36. smile
My E36 never throws up fault codes. tongue out

helix402 said:
C310 is the newer version of the 110. I have ISTA D, Inpa, Carly and DIS. The little Creator I have is still handy.
What does the ISTA, INPA and Carly do that the C310 doesn't?

Is the C310 just a diagnostic kit, whereas you can do reprogramming with the others? Would the C310 be able to read the EML code? (And as mentioned, now the light has gone out, will there be anything to read anyway?).

TBH, I just want a plug and play kit, minimum messing about.

Swervin_Mervin

4,452 posts

238 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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The creator should be fine for most tasks - C310 from my reading doesn't offer you much more, if anything, than the C110.

stevesuk

1,346 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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g3org3y said:
So what did (do) you use on the E91? Something else?
I gave up - I don't have much spare time these days, so took it to the garage instead. It was very useful on my E46 - which was always breaking due to sensors or wiring problems smile

MajorMantra

1,296 posts

112 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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g3org3y said:
I thought it would be. Which would you recommend? There seem to be loads out there.

Is this the same thing as the Carly reader (or is that to actually program codes etc)?
As others have pointed out, there seems to be some inconsistency in which readers work with which cars. I bought one of the very generic ones for about £8 a few years back and use it with the Torque Pro app. I doubt I could find the same model now, so it's a bit of a lottery, albeit a low stakes one as they're so cheap.

A cheap code reader will only ever show up generic codes and lacks any of the advanced capabilities of manufacturer-specific systems. It's often a whole lot better than nothing however.

I have no experience with Carly, but from cursory research it appears to be more capable and also a lot more expensive.

helix402

7,861 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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g3org3y said:
What does the ISTA, INPA and Carly do that the C310 doesn't?

Is the C310 just a diagnostic kit, whereas you can do reprogramming with the others? Would the C310 be able to read the EML code? (And as mentioned, now the light has gone out, will there be anything to read anyway?).

TBH, I just want a plug and play kit, minimum messing about.
C110/310 does fault code reading and clearing and live data, showing actual values against desired-which can be handy for diagnosis.

INPA is BMW factory software, I don’t use it much as ISTA is a lot more user friendly.

ISTA D is the dealer diagnosis software, it has guided diagnosis and also allows all service resets and lots more in depth stuff such as injector coding, all service resets-basically anything service and repair wise.

ISTA P is for programming control units and software updates.

Carly allows diagnosis and also car customisation, sometimes beyond what dealers can do. It also can do things like battery registration and Dpf regen. These features have to be bought as add ons if you are a new user.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply. thumbup

I'll start with the C310 and see how I get on. I may upgrade to the other systems as other things go wrong I get more advanced. smile

Mike335i

5,005 posts

102 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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g3org3y said:
Thanks for the comprehensive reply. thumbup

I'll start with the C310 and see how I get on. I may upgrade to the other systems as other things go wrong I get more advanced. smile
Just to add there is also Carista that does most if not all of what Carly does.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Mike335i said:
Just to add there is also Carista that does most if not all of what Carly does.
Thanks. Decisions decisions. scratchchin

Speaking of decisions, wanted to buy a pollen filter, and according to ECP (and CP4L), you can buy a regular one and an activated carbon equivalent. Which is the one to go for?

ferrisbueller

29,328 posts

227 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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I use the Mann Activated from ECP or EBay. Usually £10-12.

Mr Tidy

22,334 posts

127 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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FWIW my understanding is a C110 or C310 is fine for reading codes and clearing them, but Carly is useful for changing settings like the 3-flash or 5-flash indicators, auto-locking on drive away, etc.

The downside is that if you buy it now there is a £50 a year subscription charge. frown

ATM

18,289 posts

219 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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ferrisbueller

29,328 posts

227 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Good find. We've never said much of E93s, this looks value.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/bmw-330i-convertible-RA...

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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ferrisbueller said:
Good find. We've never said much of E93s, this looks value.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/bmw-330i-convertible-RA...
Looks nice. At this age, would it be an N52 or N53? I don't see a photo of the engine.

Also seat heating is a nice feature on the Convertible which is looks like this lacks, but otherwise appears to be a v nice honest car. SE probably much nicer on a cab than the rather harsh M Sport.

Edit to add...not that far away from me. scratchchin

Edited by g3org3y on Wednesday 12th June 08:46