E91 Straight Six Bearding

E91 Straight Six Bearding

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ExVantagemech..

5,729 posts

216 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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redandwhite said:
interesting thread - looking at an E91 330 as my next. Whats a 'beard'? (in the context of this thread)
Very similar to being a "bobble hat" - often worn by those that whilst being completely disjointed from society, still have a unquestionable knowledge of said item.

ladderino

728 posts

140 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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lord trumpton said:
Just a quick one for the beards....

On my E91 the very most rear quarter glass (triangle shape) that is at right angles to the tailgate - there is an orange line pattern similar to the orane lines on the heated rear screen. What are these orange lines?

Is it for an aerial or something?
Yes. Does yours have the TV option?

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e91-318i-tou/re...

ATM

18,337 posts

220 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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PTF said:
Patrick Bateman said:
They're certainly more efficient than Porsche's flat 6.

My Boxster (2.7, 240bhp) would average 26mpg at best and on a long motorway run taking it easy you'd struggle to see much more than 30mpg, even sitting at 60 didn't help much.
Interesting.

I've got a Boxster 986 3.2 and regularly see mid-30s on a run. Average so far is 31mpg in a mix of driving and a fair bit of hooning.

It's very similar on fuel to my 130i
I think the 2.7 is lower geared - isnt it only a 5 speed too?

I had a 3.2 manual 986 and managed 36mpg on one run for over 100 all motorway miles tickling the throttle at roughly 60mph all the way. I got it into my head if you keep the spoiler down its much better mpg wise. This was a total one off as i normally bashed along at 80 to 90.

Patrick Bateman

12,212 posts

175 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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It's a 5 speed but the gearing is fairly long for the power. Even at 60 didn't see great results compared to what a similar BMW 6 can get.

sleepysnake

18 posts

98 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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I tend to see just under 30 mpg average with what I guess is 2/5ths cruising on the motorway at 75.

If I consume a tank just doing my 20 mile round trip commute (fairly aggressive on the throttle once the oil is hot), it tends to hit around 320-340 miles. Works out to 26/27mpg.

What annoys me is not being able to see the oil temperature. I tend to start getting more aggressive on the throttle once I can see the oil level reading, but try not to push too hard at this point. Apparently, the 330i does have an oil temp sensor as you get the reading if you retrofit a set of clocks with the oil temp readout, so the oil level reading isn't basing it all on coolant temp.

Does anyone with the coupe version, or an N53 (IIRC these have the oil temp reading instead of mpg) know roughly what the oil temp displayed is when their oil level reading indicates a level?


bmwmike

6,990 posts

109 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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sleepysnake said:
Does anyone with the coupe version, or an N53 (IIRC these have the oil temp reading instead of mpg) know roughly what the oil temp displayed is when their oil level reading indicates a level?
I have an n53 with oil temp but not sure what you mean by level as it doesn't seem to make a difference. I see anything from 110c to 125c normal driving

ferrisbueller

29,367 posts

228 months

Saturday 14th April 2018
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sleepysnake said:
Does anyone with the coupe version, or an N53 (IIRC these have the oil temp reading instead of mpg) know roughly what the oil temp displayed is when their oil level reading indicates a level?
I know what you're asking i.e. at what oil temperature does the oil level indicator start registering but I don't know the answer I'm afraid. A quick google hasn't turned up anything either.

Mike335i

5,020 posts

103 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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On mine the oil level reading will show just before the needle moves off the stop (70 degrees C).

Its almost as if the green line on the screen is a green light to have fun.

ExVantagemech..

5,729 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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So, fought the runflats off my wheels yesterday and fitted Uniroyal RS3 XL's.
Night and bloody day difference. No tramlining, smoother ride - where with the RFT's you felt every repair and bump in the road, the RS3's make noise but you dont necessarily feel it.
I'd say it feels maybe 10-15% more wallowy in corners but mines an SE anyway, its still a firm ride.
Just need to get a can of gunk for the boot - already have a compressor in there.

One of the rear RFT's had an egg shaped sidewall, must have been some pothole to have done that!

ferrisbueller

29,367 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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RFTs must be one of the industry's most unwanted innovations in recent times. Utter st.

lord trumpton

7,460 posts

127 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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Ive just put new MPS2 RFT's on my E91 330i.

I did have a dilemma as the fronts had 6mm and the rears needed replacing (original rears at 12 years old) and considered 4 non Rft.

I wish I'd ditched them but as it's my daily school run car I didn't want the worry of a puncture.

My F10 rides so much nicer

TheGreatSoprendo

5,286 posts

250 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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I need new discs and pads for my E91 325i. It's the 218bhp N52 SE model. Can anyone confirm what diameter and thickness of disc I need, as there seems to be quite an array of options!

ferrisbueller

29,367 posts

228 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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TheGreatSoprendo said:
I need new discs and pads for my E91 325i. It's the 218bhp N52 SE model. Can anyone confirm what diameter and thickness of disc I need, as there seems to be quite an array of options!
http://www.bmminiparts.com/DiagramView.aspx?DiagramId=137598&MOSP=48834

300x24?

330mm discs are 330i/330d. I think the 325 uses the smaller ones.

ETA. To clarify this is fronts.

Edited by ferrisbueller on Sunday 15th April 13:51

MajorMantra

1,323 posts

113 months

Sunday 15th April 2018
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TheGreatSoprendo said:
I need new discs and pads for my E91 325i. It's the 218bhp N52 SE model. Can anyone confirm what diameter and thickness of disc I need, as there seems to be quite an array of options!
My 2006 325i with the 218bhp N52 is an M-Sport (with 18s), but I *think* it takes the same spec. I fitted these (on the rear FWIW):

https://www.eurocarparts.com/search/104111198

300mm dia, 20mm thick.

Edited by MajorMantra on Sunday 15th April 13:29

Mr Tidy

22,579 posts

128 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Quick update on my E91 with the N52 in 325i SE format.

I've done nearly 1,400 miles now, and even with the temperature we had today in the SouthEast (25+degrees) and Blizzak winters it handles tidily. (I hope I can get the summers fitted tomorrow).smile

I don't commute, because I've given up working, so most of my miles are on dual-carriageways or motorways which means my average speed on the OBC is about 40mph. But it's also showing an average of 36.2 mpg!

Why would you want a diesel? laugh

cerb4.5lee

30,930 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Mr Tidy said:

Why would you want a diesel? laugh
If you want performance and economy. My 640d did 0 to 60 in 5.3 secs and had a very strong mid range yet it still did 40mpg.

A 335d is even faster and more economical, it makes you wonder why would you want the slow and thirsty petrol N52!? hehe

When I had the 640d and 330i together it did make me wonder what the 330i actually offered. It was slow/thirsty and it didn't actually sound that great because it was muted in the cabin and you couldn't hear the exhaust.

Both the 330d/640d I had showed the 330i up in every way pretty much, the only thing I was left with was a quiet and smooth engine. Apart from at idle the 6 cylinder diesels are smooth anyway and actually sound better/more meaty inside(to me) because of the piped in noise.

I never thought I'd ever criticise a petrol engine! getmecoat

ferrisbueller

29,367 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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And then you factor in the initial outlay, depreciation and long term maintenance costs. Also acknowledge the fact that some people want a manual box, which you couldn't have on the 335d and that there's a proportion of people who don't want a diesel at all.

No doubt the diesels are impressive. Equally no doubt why they offered petrols. I wonder how many customers they'd have lost I'd they offered a diesel only range. Most of the American market for a start. In Europe, how many of the (almost half) of buyers who wanted petrol would still have bought a BMW if they could only have a diesel?

I personally see an out of warranty diesel as a significant financial risk.

lord trumpton

7,460 posts

127 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
Mr Tidy said:

Why would you want a diesel? laugh
If you want performance and economy. My 640d did 0 to 60 in 5.3 secs and had a very strong mid range yet it still did 40mpg.

A 335d is even faster and more economical, it makes you wonder why would you want the slow and thirsty petrol N52!? hehe

When I had the 640d and 330i together it did make me wonder what the 330i actually offered. It was slow/thirsty and it didn't actually sound that great because it was muted in the cabin and you couldn't hear the exhaust.

Both the 330d/640d I had showed the 330i up in every way pretty much, the only thing I was left with was a quiet and smooth engine. Apart from at idle the 6 cylinder diesels are smooth anyway and actually sound better/more meaty inside(to me) because of the piped in noise.

I never thought I'd ever criticise a petrol engine! getmecoat
I'd agree with the above in terms of performance but having had, and loved a number of BMW diesels I'm finding my n52 330i a nice change. The anti derv rhetoric is killing resale values and the complexity and Bork factor are too much to ignore for me.

lord trumpton

7,460 posts

127 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
Mr Tidy said:

Why would you want a diesel? laugh
If you want performance and economy. My 640d did 0 to 60 in 5.3 secs and had a very strong mid range yet it still did 40mpg.

A 335d is even faster and more economical, it makes you wonder why would you want the slow and thirsty petrol N52!? hehe

When I had the 640d and 330i together it did make me wonder what the 330i actually offered. It was slow/thirsty and it didn't actually sound that great because it was muted in the cabin and you couldn't hear the exhaust.

Both the 330d/640d I had showed the 330i up in every way pretty much, the only thing I was left with was a quiet and smooth engine. Apart from at idle the 6 cylinder diesels are smooth anyway and actually sound better/more meaty inside(to me) because of the piped in noise.

I never thought I'd ever criticise a petrol engine! getmecoat
I'd agree with the above in terms of performance but having had, and loved a number of BMW diesels I'm finding my n52 330i a nice change. The anti derv rhetoric is killing resale values and the complexity and Bork factor are too much to ignore for me.

cerb4.5lee

30,930 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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The maintenance and running costs of the diesels is a good point on older cars for sure. Did over 200k miles in the 640d/ 330d without any issues but they were nearly new low mileage cars.

The manual gearbox option on the petrols is another good point, and I remember really wanting a 335d years ago but I was put off by Auto only at the time.

I'd imagine in America they'd hardly sell any diesel Bmw's, and if petrol was the same price in the UK as it is in America I don't think diesel performance cars would have took off over here either.