Possible dead 1 series

Possible dead 1 series

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E-bmw

9,220 posts

152 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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My advice would be to get it to an Indy, have them remove & get the DPF PROPERLY cleaned, have the inlet manifold off, get it & EGR etc all cleaned out.

Then clear all the codes & see where you stand.

helix402

7,861 posts

182 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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I use Dpf clean team for dpfs that can’t be cleared via a forced regen. It’s very rare for the Dpf to need changing. You may need new thermostats too but as they don’t show a fault code if the diagnosis was a bit rubbish they won’t be listed.

Sardonicus

18,962 posts

221 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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helix402 said:
I use Dpf clean team for dpfs that can’t be cleared via a forced regen. It’s very rare for the Dpf to need changing. You may need new thermostats too but as they don’t show a fault code if the diagnosis was a bit rubbish they won’t be listed.
Agree with all of this ^ I recently had a Vauxhall DPF done by the above mentioned recently cost around £380 IIRC and cheaper than the 1500+ the dreaded from Vauxhall and that was an exchange basis using someones old unit rolleyes however I have recently witnessed an internally collapsed/melted DPF that thing was a write off however this is unusual IME

helix402

7,861 posts

182 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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I suspect the fuel heater code could be left to a later date and dealt with as a secondary problem.

E-bmw

9,220 posts

152 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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helix402 said:
I suspect the fuel heater code could be left to a later date and dealt with as a secondary problem.
My thoughts exactly, leave the heater along with the glow plugs so try & get rid of the other (relatively cheap) ones and see what is left.

helix402

7,861 posts

182 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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The glow plugs need to work properly for Dpf regens so it would be wise to fix that problem too.

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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The swirl flaps may have failed, the shrill may be a burst Turbo hose.

E-bmw

9,220 posts

152 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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helix402 said:
The glow plugs need to work properly for Dpf regens so it would be wise to fix that problem too.
I agree it would be wise to fix them, but they are less urgent if he can get the car working & then see how much the repairs will cost elsewhere once the "generic issues" of the DPF & manifold are hopefully sorted, or at least more info is available.

Elliot2000

785 posts

176 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Dominic H said:
Right, I have the estimate from BMW. There are three areas that are showing permanent fault codes;

DPF at £1485 plus vat inc bits and labour.

Glow plugs/pre-heater at £555.05 plus vat inc bits and labour.

Fuel heater £829.52 plus vat inc labour.

A total of £3444.58 inc vat and parts.


It was explained that the inlet manifold was also showing faults and was likely to be blocked. There is a strong likelihood of additional costs once they'd started the work.

I guess the next move would be to see if any of these issues/parts can be repaired rather than replaced at an Indy. See what the non-franchised cost would be. Then take a decision as to whether its worth doing. As per the OP, it seems a shame for an otherwise well maintained, reliable car....
Leave the glow plugs and preheated ecu, how the hell is fuel heater 830£? Something wrong there - it’s like a 60£ part and takes half hour to fit.

Dpf won’t need replacing- get someone to do a clean on it

There must still be a reason it’s clogged in the first place though and from that estimate they have not identified it.

Dpf on that model will still regen with glow plugs faults, as someone said it could be thermostats- or a faulty dpf pressure sensor, or lots of things tbh.

What’s your reg- I might be able to find some more info on it

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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As I said, you really need to check the 'stats, if they are more than 4-5 years old they will be knackered and will stop your car doing a regen.


Dominic H

Original Poster:

3,275 posts

232 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Thanks for all the replies, it certainly gives an idea of what to try and fix...

OldGermanHeaps said:
I'll give you £300 for the car as it stands, collected by transporter.

You're all heart!

OldGermanHeaps

3,832 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Just offereing an option better than scrapping if you cant be bothered dealing with the hassle, you did say the current repair quote exceeds the vehicles value. You are deffo best to find a good indy, but some people just cant be arsed or have reached the end of their tether with a motor, and I have picked up a few interesting motors that way, it isn't predeatory, no one was forced, and the scrappys would offer half that if they were collecting.
Personally for the sake of a couple of hours on a saturday for free if it was me I would pressure wash the fk out of the dpf and soak the egr in petrol overnight and give everything a good clean and lube and see how you go.

Dominic H

Original Poster:

3,275 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Just offereing an option better than scrapping if you cant be bothered dealing with the hassle, you did say the current repair quote exceeds the vehicles value. You are deffo best to find a good indy, but some people just cant be arsed or have reached the end of their tether with a motor, and I have picked up a few interesting motors that way, it isn't predeatory, no one was forced, and the scrappys would offer half that if they were collecting.
Personally for the sake of a couple of hours on a Saturday for free if it was me I would pressure wash the fk out of the dpf and soak the egr in petrol overnight and give everything a good clean and lube and see how you go.
Thanks OGH, this looks to be plan.. party

Can anyone recommend a good Indy in the Bromley area?


Edited by Dominic H on Tuesday 3rd July 12:55

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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They're not in Bromley but BM Sport in Bexleyheath have a good reputation (they're in the process of rebuilding the bottom end on my brothers M3) they're not the cheapest but do a good job.


PDV_40

6 posts

115 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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I'd add my support for BM Sport in Bexley, they've been looking after my E46 330Ci for awhile and I've been thoroughly impressed with them

Dominic H

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3,275 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st July 2018
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PDV_40 said:
I'd add my support for BM Sport in Bexley, they've been looking after my E46 330Ci for awhile and I've been thoroughly impressed with them
Top lurking!

To conclude this thread, and thanks for the advice. A local garage managed to clear the faults with the exception of the DPF. As a fault on the glow plugs wasn't allowing the DPF to regenerate. These were replaced along with the control unit. A regeneration was initially succesful by the garage. But when I drove it, the car was severely lacking in power (making no boost) and the oil light had come on (the car had used virtually no oil and the level via the OBC was checked regularly). The garage re-checked the work and found that the DPF was still blocked and that oil had been ingested by the turbo. Resulting in a big estimate to finally replace the DPF and the turbo. Time to call it a day.

Off to ebay to list the car with all the good points and all the faults. It sold at £1500 to a couple of lads with a garage, and was collected the next day. Happy to have got at least something back and good to see that the car will be fixed and back on the road soon.

Thanks again.