Looking to buy a Z4 E89.
Discussion
I would echo what's been said about the 6 cyl. However, much as choosing the most powerful one you can find is a good rule, I wouldn't rule out the NA 3.0. Less powerful, but more engaging.
That being said, that'd probably have a lower spec and, from what I've read, I'd be looking for one with adaptive ride.
4 cyl turbos, not a fan.
That being said, that'd probably have a lower spec and, from what I've read, I'd be looking for one with adaptive ride.
4 cyl turbos, not a fan.
No, the 30i is a great engine.
But I think it was only fitted to early E89s and got replaced by the 28i in LCI models, so I'm not sure you'd find a 30i with Adaptive suspension.
Then again I wouldn't want to - someone on z4forum took his 35i with Adaptive to a main agent for recall work, and they spotted a leaking front shocker. They quoted him £890 to replace just the one! His Indy quoted £810 to fit the same part!
Then he found a firm offering a full set of non-adaptive coilovers for £600 that he could get fitted for £200!
But I think it was only fitted to early E89s and got replaced by the 28i in LCI models, so I'm not sure you'd find a 30i with Adaptive suspension.
Then again I wouldn't want to - someone on z4forum took his 35i with Adaptive to a main agent for recall work, and they spotted a leaking front shocker. They quoted him £890 to replace just the one! His Indy quoted £810 to fit the same part!
Then he found a firm offering a full set of non-adaptive coilovers for £600 that he could get fitted for £200!
The 30i and 35i dont seem to vary much in terms of price (give or take 1k for similar year/mileage).
taking that into account i might opt for the 35i for the whole shebang. call me prude but the yellow DRLs pre LCI dont do it for me either, a friend has said I could get those swapped to the newer white LEDS, anyone know if that's an option or the cost of doing that?
30i, 59 reg, 42k miles, £11.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
30i, 10 reg, 32k miles, £11.7k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
35i, 09 reg, 50k miles, £11.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
35i, 09 reg, 43k miles, £12.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
taking that into account i might opt for the 35i for the whole shebang. call me prude but the yellow DRLs pre LCI dont do it for me either, a friend has said I could get those swapped to the newer white LEDS, anyone know if that's an option or the cost of doing that?
30i, 59 reg, 42k miles, £11.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
30i, 10 reg, 32k miles, £11.7k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
35i, 09 reg, 50k miles, £11.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
35i, 09 reg, 43k miles, £12.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
It’s a relatively simple bulb swap using something like this
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
If it's an auto you want, this seems better than what you've posted. A few extra miles though.
£10.5k for an 11 plate 3.0 M Sport with 62k.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
£10.5k for an 11 plate 3.0 M Sport with 62k.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
lucazkoh said:
Heres Johnny said:
The 35i has the dual clutch (DCT) 7 speed gearbox, the 30i has a steptronic torque converter box. That’s another difference between the cars
What’s the difference between the two? Is one generally more favoured over the other?The steptronique is old school auto, some call a slush box, but a very good one at that.
Both you can override the changes and try and change manually, but if you enjoy full power snappy gear changes then DCT is the way to go.
I bought the 28i, it was relatively local and I said to myself I’d test drive it and see... really liked it!
As mentioned previously, it replaced the 30i and I believe it’s actually quicker especially with the ZF 8 speed box.
Mine is my first ever auto and I love it. I could never own a normal slush box auto, but love the ZF.
I’ve said for a while if I was to do it again I’d get a 35is. But that’s not to say the 28i isn’t fantastic and if you would consider a 30i I guess total power isn’t the most important thing to you (perhaps spec is?).
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
As mentioned previously, it replaced the 30i and I believe it’s actually quicker especially with the ZF 8 speed box.
Mine is my first ever auto and I love it. I could never own a normal slush box auto, but love the ZF.
I’ve said for a while if I was to do it again I’d get a 35is. But that’s not to say the 28i isn’t fantastic and if you would consider a 30i I guess total power isn’t the most important thing to you (perhaps spec is?).
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
SteveS Cup said:
I bought the 28i, it was relatively local and I said to myself I’d test drive it and see... really liked it!
As mentioned previously, it replaced the 30i and I believe it’s actually quicker especially with the ZF 8 speed box.
Mine is my first ever auto and I love it. I could never own a normal slush box auto, but love the ZF.
I’ve said for a while if I was to do it again I’d get a 35is. But that’s not to say the 28i isn’t fantastic and if you would consider a 30i I guess total power isn’t the most important thing to you (perhaps spec is?).
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
Power was st the top of my list, but sensibility has taken over and now as you said, spec sits at the top now. If my 0-62 numbers are right, it’s around 5 secs, 5.5 secs, and 6 secs for the 35i, 28i and 30i respectively, which is the real world doesn’t make a difference to me. I’m now looking to set a budget below 12k for the car, to save some money when I come to sell it in the hope I lose a smaller percentage a year down the line. As mentioned previously, it replaced the 30i and I believe it’s actually quicker especially with the ZF 8 speed box.
Mine is my first ever auto and I love it. I could never own a normal slush box auto, but love the ZF.
I’ve said for a while if I was to do it again I’d get a 35is. But that’s not to say the 28i isn’t fantastic and if you would consider a 30i I guess total power isn’t the most important thing to you (perhaps spec is?).
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
Heres Johnny said:
DCT is more sporting, it’s like an automated manual and the twin clutches mean gear shifts are fast. It’s the type of technology Porsche and the rest use. There aren’t really any downsides, maybe just a little slow sometimes going into reverse.
The steptronique is old school auto, some call a slush box, but a very good one at that.
Both you can override the changes and try and change manually, but if you enjoy full power snappy gear changes then DCT is the way to go.
Thanks for the informationThe steptronique is old school auto, some call a slush box, but a very good one at that.
Both you can override the changes and try and change manually, but if you enjoy full power snappy gear changes then DCT is the way to go.
Driver101 said:
If it's an auto you want, this seems better than what you've posted. A few extra miles though.
£10.5k for an 11 plate 3.0 M Sport with 62k.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Good shout, didn’t notice I didn’t pick and msport options. Quite like the look of them£10.5k for an 11 plate 3.0 M Sport with 62k.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
The M-Sport seats are much more sought after than the standard ones. :thumb-up:
Heated seats also seem popular - they extend the top-down season!
Be careful with 19" wheels if you use run-flat tyres - they are known for cracking. Probably why a lot of owners switch to non-runflats.
Enjoy the search.
Heated seats also seem popular - they extend the top-down season!
Be careful with 19" wheels if you use run-flat tyres - they are known for cracking. Probably why a lot of owners switch to non-runflats.
Enjoy the search.
SteveS Cup said:
I bought the 28i, it was relatively local and I said to myself I’d test drive it and see... really liked it!
As mentioned previously, it replaced the 30i and I believe it’s actually quicker especially with the ZF 8 speed box.
Mine is my first ever auto and I love it. I could never own a normal slush box auto, but love the ZF.
I’ve said for a while if I was to do it again I’d get a 35is. But that’s not to say the 28i isn’t fantastic and if you would consider a 30i I guess total power isn’t the most important thing to you (perhaps spec is?).
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
The old 3.0i engine is fantastic, but the LCI changes you get on the 2.8 make the earlier model feel old-fashioned in some respects.As mentioned previously, it replaced the 30i and I believe it’s actually quicker especially with the ZF 8 speed box.
Mine is my first ever auto and I love it. I could never own a normal slush box auto, but love the ZF.
I’ve said for a while if I was to do it again I’d get a 35is. But that’s not to say the 28i isn’t fantastic and if you would consider a 30i I guess total power isn’t the most important thing to you (perhaps spec is?).
If you want to know anything specific let me know.
Long list of changes.
This will give you a taste: https://e89.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7824...
Highlights are upgrade to interior quality and external lighting, plus of course the gearboxes and engines.
This will give you a taste: https://e89.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7824...
Highlights are upgrade to interior quality and external lighting, plus of course the gearboxes and engines.
Edited by Vroomer on Saturday 26th January 10:01
lucazkoh said:
Pardon my ignorance, but what changes came with the LCI please?
In reality, aside from engines and gearboxes the differences are bundling a few options in as standard and a few cosmetic tweaks, but as the 35i engine and gearbox was left unchanged I wouldn't hang out for a LCI 35i as being a game changed.Hi, The Z4 has changed. It’s become sportier – the old one, with its folding hardtop and cuddly dynamics, took aim mostly at the Mercedes SLK (now SLC). The new one has a fabric top, dropping the weight measurement and centre of gravity. It’s evidently having a pop at the Porsche 718, itself in a vulnerable position since the much-lamented departure of that old flat six.
To prove its sporting bent, we’re driving a Z4 with an M in its name. Well, a part-way M car, the Z4 M40i. It’s got a turbo six with 340bhp. Other engines are four-cylinders in the 30i and 20i.
Ah yes, sporty. Hello internet, the ’Ring time is comfortably under eight minutes. The Z4’s physical dimensions are good for hot laps. The wheelbase is shorter than before by a huge 20cm, for agility. The track is much wider, for grip. The body is a whole lot stiffer than the old Z4’s, and it’s light.
Enjoy your ride
To prove its sporting bent, we’re driving a Z4 with an M in its name. Well, a part-way M car, the Z4 M40i. It’s got a turbo six with 340bhp. Other engines are four-cylinders in the 30i and 20i.
Ah yes, sporty. Hello internet, the ’Ring time is comfortably under eight minutes. The Z4’s physical dimensions are good for hot laps. The wheelbase is shorter than before by a huge 20cm, for agility. The track is much wider, for grip. The body is a whole lot stiffer than the old Z4’s, and it’s light.
Enjoy your ride
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