Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 vs Michelin CrossClimate+

[Bazman67]

Hi there,

I need to put new tyres on my f30 330d.

I want to switch away from run flats.
The tyres will be used all year round.

I was veering towards the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 as recommended by this website (although I am open to other suggestions):

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyres_For/BMW/330d-M-...

However the snow performance seems to be lacking (not too surprising given they are a summer tyre)

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Therefore I was wondering about Michelin crossclimate instead:

https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/michelin/cr...

I live in a rural part of the south east so I get no more than two weeks of snow a year but face driving on un-gritted roads when it does snow.

The rub here is that I'm compromising the cars performance for the rest of the year to make sure I'm OK for 2 weeks in winter!

Any thoughts on which option would be best for somebody in my position?

Thanks

[stevemiller]

Get the Goodyears, I live in Cumbria withe a 405 bhp mg. Two weeks of buttocks clenching, whats to worry about!

[E-bmw]

The Goodyears are a fantastic tyre, get them on your current wheels & get a set of ebay cheapo 2nd handers for winter tyres that will last a lifetime of 2/3 months on for a year.

[Pica-Pica]

Continental AllSeason Contact. If they have the sizes available.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92...

..and watch and listen to Jon (or is it John?) here, who talks a lot of sense from experience, especially about winter tyre temperatures (he may pop by here to comment).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-gkTCOs7E

For my 335d, I cannot quite get to the need for winters, on the few days where we get snow, it disappears as soon as it arrives. So I am sticking to Pirelli run flats, I may consider a run flat winter next year. For my wife’s Fabia, I am considering Vredestein Quatrac 5.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Sunday 20th January 13:46

[4rephill]

Pica-Pica said:

Continental AllSeason Contact. If they have the sizes available.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92...

..and watch and listen to Jon (or is it John?) here, who talks a lot of sense from experience, especially about winter tyre temperatures (he may pop by here to comment).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-gkTCOs7E

For my 335d, I cannot quite get to the need for winters, on the few days where we get snow, it disappears as soon as it arrives. So I am sticking to Pirelli run flats, I may consider a run flat winter next year. For my wife’s Fabia, I am considering Vredestein Quatrac 5.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Sunday 20th January 13:46

Curious how you mention:

Pica-Pica said:

..and watch and listen to Jon (or is it John?) here, who talks a lot of sense from experience, especially about winter tyre temperatures......

But then go on to state:

Pica-Pica said:

For my 335d, I cannot quite get to the need for winters, on the few days where we get snow....

It appears you have made the same mistake that most owners/drivers make: Thinking that winter tyres are only for when there is snow and ice on the road.

As I'm sure "Jon" or "John" would happily point out, winter tyres are designed to operate in temperatures below 7°C, and not just when there is snow or ice on the road

[Vergis]

Goodyear Assyms are brilliant.

[Fox-]

Vergis said:

Goodyear Assyms are brilliant.

I am very happy with them - as a bonus they seem to last ages as well.

[Pica-Pica]

4rephill said:

Pica-Pica said:

Continental AllSeason Contact. If they have the sizes available.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92...

..and watch and listen to Jon (or is it John?) here, who talks a lot of sense from experience, especially about winter tyre temperatures (he may pop by here to comment).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-gkTCOs7E

For my 335d, I cannot quite get to the need for winters, on the few days where we get snow, it disappears as soon as it arrives. So I am sticking to Pirelli run flats, I may consider a run flat winter next year. For my wife’s Fabia, I am considering Vredestein Quatrac 5.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Sunday 20th January 13:46

Curious how you mention:

Pica-Pica said:

..and watch and listen to Jon (or is it John?) here, who talks a lot of sense from experience, especially about winter tyre temperatures......

But then go on to state:

Pica-Pica said:

For my 335d, I cannot quite get to the need for winters, on the few days where we get snow....

It appears you have made the same mistake that most owners/drivers make: Thinking that winter tyres are only for when there is snow and ice on the road.

As I'm sure "Jon" or "John" would happily point out, winter tyres are designed to operate in temperatures below 7°C, and not just when there is snow or ice on the road

No he says 2 to 4 degrees C, and that is my experience over several decades - thank you.

[E-bmw]

Normal tyre compound basically loses most of its elasticity by 8 degrees winter rubber actually works better from 8 degrees down, so not technically correct.

[Billy_Whizzzz]

Have used Crossclimates on an M140i for the OST few winters with great effect. I’d definitely recommend them and dry performance on warmer roads is great too. We run them all year round on my wife’s car too.

[Bazman67]

Thanks for all the advice guys went with the Goodyear's in the end!

[vindaloo79]

I had these on my last car. Really softened the ride up nicely.

Only issue was wife slightly curbed the car and it burst the tyre.

When i sold the car it was spotted the rear one was chipped into, mostly likely after a gentle curbing when parking, neither of us are fessing up to that one.

But the damage was enough to be chipped down the cost of replacement when sold.

Anyone else find they are easily damaged?

[Sticks.]

I've had 4 sets of F1s and pleased with them, as with the GSD3s before. They smooth out a lot of the smaller irregularities, grip well, and the only time I got caught in the snow with them I was pleasantly surprised, albeit in a Quattro car.

They do have a rounder or fatter sidewall than some tyres, but I've not taken any chunks out of them.

I'll get some more as soon as the tyres my car came with are worn enough.