Londonderry car bomb
Discussion
So far no-one has claimed responsibility, though a warning was given
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-469...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-469...
Bit obvious. Some serious gangs getting plans into place should there be huge amounts of money to be made from Brexit .Few warnings to the police to stay away and allow them to be getting on with Business . Same as the IRA "terrorism " was just a great "cover title" to get away with extortion .
Edited by NormarkSuperswede on Sunday 20th January 13:03
Hmmmm....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-469...
Granddad must be the prime suspect, surely?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-469...
Granddad must be the prime suspect, surely?
“'IRA' claims responsibility for Londonderry car bomb”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-nireland...
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-nireland...
A journalist murdered by terrorists simply for doing her job.
Londonderry riots: Journalist Lyra McKee shot dead in 'terrorist incident'. Detectives have said the New IRA, a dissident republican group, was most likely behind the reporter's murder.
A 29-year-old journalist was killed Thursday night amid riots in Northern Ireland, her colleagues said, in what police are calling a "terrorist incident." The journalist, identified by friends on Twitter as Lyra McKee, was an editor for the news site Mediagazer and was based in Belfast, according to literary agency Janklow and Nesbit's website. Her work included examining the fallout of decades of violence in Northern Ireland, and she was described as a rising star of investigative journalism in an announcement of a publishing deal last year.
Londonderry riots: Journalist Lyra McKee shot dead in 'terrorist incident'. Detectives have said the New IRA, a dissident republican group, was most likely behind the reporter's murder.
A 29-year-old journalist was killed Thursday night amid riots in Northern Ireland, her colleagues said, in what police are calling a "terrorist incident." The journalist, identified by friends on Twitter as Lyra McKee, was an editor for the news site Mediagazer and was based in Belfast, according to literary agency Janklow and Nesbit's website. Her work included examining the fallout of decades of violence in Northern Ireland, and she was described as a rising star of investigative journalism in an announcement of a publishing deal last year.
OpulentBob said:
Aah, progressive, reasonable, and moderate Ireland
Give it back to them, mine the Irish Sea, brexit and IRA ste therefore sorted, 2 birds one stone, everyone (here) happier.
Who's "them"?Give it back to them, mine the Irish Sea, brexit and IRA ste therefore sorted, 2 birds one stone, everyone (here) happier.
Are you saying that it is right to mess something up and then walk away from the mess?
Nations reap what they sow.
OpulentBob said:
Aah, progressive, reasonable, and moderate Ireland
Give it back to them, mine the Irish Sea, brexit and IRA ste therefore sorted, 2 birds one stone, everyone (here) happier.
With all the ste being said by Boris and co about Ireland with the Brexit mess I had a feeling it would stir up trouble again. They need to leave the north as it is, it's still a heated area only getting back to peace and a few English fkwits talking st is it takes to unsettle the balance.Give it back to them, mine the Irish Sea, brexit and IRA ste therefore sorted, 2 birds one stone, everyone (here) happier.
“Two teenage men have been arrested in connection with the killing of journalist Lyra McKee.
The pair, aged 18 and 19, were detained under the Terrorism Act.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-479...
The pair, aged 18 and 19, were detained under the Terrorism Act.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-479...
BlackLabel said:
“Two teenage men have been arrested in connection with the killing of journalist Lyra McKee.
The pair, aged 18 and 19, were detained under the Terrorism Act.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-479...
I wouldn't be surprised to find that they're sacrificial lambs. The gunman I saw on that video didn't look like a teenager. It'd be typical of dissident republicans to arrange for some youngster to take the can - a sort of badge of honour.The pair, aged 18 and 19, were detained under the Terrorism Act.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-479...
Colonel D said:
With all the ste being said by Boris and co about Ireland with the Brexit mess I had a feeling it would stir up trouble again. They need to leave the north as it is, it's still a heated area only getting back to peace and a few English fkwits talking st is it takes to unsettle the balance.
The problem is not the border arrangements. It might be an excuse but these are terrorists. They don't need reasons other than their own warped desires.The UK had a civil war from 1969 until, more or less, the Good Friday agreement. There are many reasons why the civil war, more or less again, ended, and one can easily fall into the trap of suggesting one particular reason was the 'main' one, but the real answer is that no one knows. What is clear that to all intents and purposes the UK ‘won’.
There has been more than 20 years since the GFA. A generation has grown up in that period and been fed the myths and make-believe of the stories of Irish history. It is so distorted that it is impossible to separate myth from the truth. In reality, there’s very little truth.
I doubt there is anything that will stop the ‘zombies’ on any side enjoying their criminal activities. Most people, it seems, enjoy a bit of power and authority.
The best hope for an end to the constant brutalisation of NI was (is?) the EU. The eventual unification in all but name seemed to be threatened by just one agent, the western catholic church. Even the power of that great bastion of self-interest seems to be waning at a rate that few could have hoped for, let alone expected.
What is concerning is that extremists keep getting elected and that’s not helped by giving the DUP significant influence in the HoC (and lots of Danegeld).
Whilst NI hasn’t enjoyed peace since the GFA, it is a much better, and healthier, situation than it was during the civil war. One thing we must not do, I think, is to blame all the NI people. Nor should be blame anyone, nor any institution, other than the criminals themselves.
Derek Smith said:
The problem is not the border arrangements. It might be an excuse but these are terrorists. They don't need reasons other than their own warped desires.
The UK had a civil war from 1969 until, more or less, the Good Friday agreement. There are many reasons why the civil war, more or less again, ended, and one can easily fall into the trap of suggesting one particular reason was the 'main' one, but the real answer is that no one knows. What is clear that to all intents and purposes the UK ‘won’.
There has been more than 20 years since the GFA. A generation has grown up in that period and been fed the myths and make-believe of the stories of Irish history. It is so distorted that it is impossible to separate myth from the truth. In reality, there’s very little truth.
I doubt there is anything that will stop the ‘zombies’ on any side enjoying their criminal activities. Most people, it seems, enjoy a bit of power and authority.
The best hope for an end to the constant brutalisation of NI was (is?) the EU. The eventual unification in all but name seemed to be threatened by just one agent, the western catholic church. Even the power of that great bastion of self-interest seems to be waning at a rate that few could have hoped for, let alone expected.
What is concerning is that extremists keep getting elected and that’s not helped by giving the DUP significant influence in the HoC (and lots of Danegeld).
Whilst NI hasn’t enjoyed peace since the GFA, it is a much better, and healthier, situation than it was during the civil war. One thing we must not do, I think, is to blame all the NI people. Nor should be blame anyone, nor any institution, other than the criminals themselves.
NI is a lot better now, in no way are they responsible for the UK's brexit mess, or us down south for that matter. Although a better place now, the thing with the North is, I can't see it becoming a normal place, so the extremists on both sides will be there for a long time. I'd rather it stay part of the UK because a 32 county Ireland will just put us back to square one, only this time the British feel screwed because they don't want to be part of Ireland and troubles flare up again. I'd be fairly confident in saying a lot of Irish people feel the same way. The desire for a united Ireland has become less of an issue in recent years.The UK had a civil war from 1969 until, more or less, the Good Friday agreement. There are many reasons why the civil war, more or less again, ended, and one can easily fall into the trap of suggesting one particular reason was the 'main' one, but the real answer is that no one knows. What is clear that to all intents and purposes the UK ‘won’.
There has been more than 20 years since the GFA. A generation has grown up in that period and been fed the myths and make-believe of the stories of Irish history. It is so distorted that it is impossible to separate myth from the truth. In reality, there’s very little truth.
I doubt there is anything that will stop the ‘zombies’ on any side enjoying their criminal activities. Most people, it seems, enjoy a bit of power and authority.
The best hope for an end to the constant brutalisation of NI was (is?) the EU. The eventual unification in all but name seemed to be threatened by just one agent, the western catholic church. Even the power of that great bastion of self-interest seems to be waning at a rate that few could have hoped for, let alone expected.
What is concerning is that extremists keep getting elected and that’s not helped by giving the DUP significant influence in the HoC (and lots of Danegeld).
Whilst NI hasn’t enjoyed peace since the GFA, it is a much better, and healthier, situation than it was during the civil war. One thing we must not do, I think, is to blame all the NI people. Nor should be blame anyone, nor any institution, other than the criminals themselves.
It's not brexit as such that's caused there recent activities from the IRA, it's not even down to talks of a border because no one wants it on either side there, it's moronic comments like "let the Irish shoot each other" or "let them starve" that's going to cause trouble. Comments like those coming from representatives of the UK, who know what they're saying, know it's just to get a reaction, will get that reaction. The other problem with those comments is the people down south will go back to old ways, turn a blind eye or justify it "well they asked for it" as was the way before Omagh.
The UK needs to sort it's st out with brexit and without interfering with NI, how they do that I don't know, but they need to figure it out, there should have been plans in place for all of this before a vote was polled. The whole brexit mess actually makes Trump look like a competent leader and that is no easy task.
Colonel D said:
NI is a lot better now, in no way are they responsible for the UK's brexit mess, or us down south for that matter. Although a better place now, the thing with the North is, I can't see it becoming a normal place, so the extremists on both sides will be there for a long time. I'd rather it stay part of the UK because a 32 county Ireland will just put us back to square one, only this time the British feel screwed because they don't want to be part of Ireland and troubles flare up again. I'd be fairly confident in saying a lot of Irish people feel the same way. The desire for a united Ireland has become less of an issue in recent years.
It's not brexit as such that's caused there recent activities from the IRA, it's not even down to talks of a border because no one wants it on either side there, it's moronic comments like "let the Irish shoot each other" or "let them starve" that's going to cause trouble. Comments like those coming from representatives of the UK, who know what they're saying, know it's just to get a reaction, will get that reaction. The other problem with those comments is the people down south will go back to old ways, turn a blind eye or justify it "well they asked for it" as was the way before Omagh.
The UK needs to sort it's st out with brexit and without interfering with NI, how they do that I don't know, but they need to figure it out, there should have been plans in place for all of this before a vote was polled. The whole brexit mess actually makes Trump look like a competent leader and that is no easy task.
Considering you're saying this is nothing to do with Brexit you've mentioned Brexit a hell of a lot in those 3 paragraphs. It's not brexit as such that's caused there recent activities from the IRA, it's not even down to talks of a border because no one wants it on either side there, it's moronic comments like "let the Irish shoot each other" or "let them starve" that's going to cause trouble. Comments like those coming from representatives of the UK, who know what they're saying, know it's just to get a reaction, will get that reaction. The other problem with those comments is the people down south will go back to old ways, turn a blind eye or justify it "well they asked for it" as was the way before Omagh.
The UK needs to sort it's st out with brexit and without interfering with NI, how they do that I don't know, but they need to figure it out, there should have been plans in place for all of this before a vote was polled. The whole brexit mess actually makes Trump look like a competent leader and that is no easy task.
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