M340i

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HM-2

12,467 posts

168 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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JackReacher said:
HM-2 said:
The C43 is an old platform now in comparison. When I looked you also didn't seem to get deals anywhere near as good as you could get on the M340i, though that might have changed if recent posts in this thread are anything to go by. The package structure in the C43 configurator is also beyond awful, with almost no ability to customise beyond one expensive and one very expensive pack which mostly comprise of things you don't actually want.
BMW are almost as bad, most options are in some sort of pack that forces you to have stuff you don't want.
At least the BMW packs are somewhat coherent- you can have all the tech stuff in one fell swoop, for instance. And there's what, five, six of them usually at relatively low prices. The Merc ones are absolutely nonsensical, there's only two and they're something like £2.5k and £7k each.

Pica-Pica

13,584 posts

83 months

Thursday 8th October 2020
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HM-2 said:
JackReacher said:
HM-2 said:
The C43 is an old platform now in comparison. When I looked you also didn't seem to get deals anywhere near as good as you could get on the M340i, though that might have changed if recent posts in this thread are anything to go by. The package structure in the C43 configurator is also beyond awful, with almost no ability to customise beyond one expensive and one very expensive pack which mostly comprise of things you don't actually want.
BMW are almost as bad, most options are in some sort of pack that forces you to have stuff you don't want.
At least the BMW packs are somewhat coherent- you can have all the tech stuff in one fell swoop, for instance. And there's what, five, six of them usually at relatively low prices. The Merc ones are absolutely nonsensical, there's only two and they're something like £2.5k and £7k each.
Just looked at BMW, quite a lot of things you can order separately. Thank goodness a sunroof is not standard. laugh

gravy13

54 posts

57 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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Appreciate this is a mundane question but what real world MPG are people getting? Looking at changing my M140i but do a reasonable mileage with work - trying to avoid a 330d!

smashy

3,030 posts

157 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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Wny avoid BMWs brilliant 3 ltr derv engine a 50 mpg plus mile muncher for peope like me on 25k a year and in sport how could you go any quicker in the uk?

Anyway an interesting comment from joe achilles the youtuber.He had an M340I for a few days and he said a journey he does in his own M2 which includes the M25 normally gives him 25mpg in the M340i he got 39mpg.

bad company

18,438 posts

265 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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smashy said:
Wny avoid BMWs brilliant 3 ltr derv engine a 50 mpg plus mile muncher for peope like me on 25k a year and in sport how could you go any quicker in the uk?

Anyway an interesting comment from joe achilles the youtuber.He had an M340I for a few days and he said a journey he does in his own M2 which includes the M25 normally gives him 25mpg in the M340i he got 39mpg.
I wouldn’t buy a diesel nowadays, nothing against them but I’d worry about the residual.

I’m getting 32 - 35 mpg from my 340. If Joe Achilles is getting 39mpg he’s not driving it properly. wink

smashy

3,030 posts

157 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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Good point Matt Watson from car wow reviewed a touring and it was showing 20 mpg gulp.Like you hope to get some good feedback from drivers as I need to make a decision next year

bad company

18,438 posts

265 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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I bought my M340i new last March. Without doubt it’s the best every day driver I’ve ever had, cannot think of a fault or criticism.

RonnieHotdogs

1,001 posts

100 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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I used to average about 27mpg from my 440i GC in MPPSK tune (360+bhp).

It was capable of a lot more, and even saw above 40mpg a few times. Generally it was the same as most 2.0T engines I've owned, but hugely faster and sounded great.

I know they've made a few changes to the B58 since, so I'd expect it to be able to return early - mid 30s fairly consistently.

JNW1

7,696 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th October 2020
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smashy said:
Good point Matt Watson from car wow reviewed a touring and it was showing 20 mpg gulp.Like you hope to get some good feedback from drivers as I need to make a decision next year
For me the only reason for looking at a 6-pot diesel over the M340i is if you're a very high mileage driver and value the longer range. Realistically a M340d will probably be at least 5-6 mpg better - and a 330d probably 10 mpg better - and that makes a difference if you're doing 25k miles a year or more; however, I'd contend the B58 petrol is a nicer engine to sit behind so for anyone doing a more modest mileage that's the way I'd go (and went!).

Of course there are those who simply prefer the torquey power delivery of a big diesel and that's fair enough; BMW make some of the best diesel engines around so if that's your preference an M340d or 330d will make a very nice companion - each to their own! smile


Pica-Pica

13,584 posts

83 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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bad company said:
I wouldn’t buy a diesel nowadays, nothing against them but I’d worry about the residual.

I’m getting 32 - 35 mpg from my 340. If Joe Achilles is getting 39mpg he’s not driving it properly. wink
I think petrol will also take an equal hit on residuals over the next few years. There is no reason to think they would not.

p1stonhead

25,471 posts

166 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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Pica-Pica said:
bad company said:
I wouldn’t buy a diesel nowadays, nothing against them but I’d worry about the residual.

I’m getting 32 - 35 mpg from my 340. If Joe Achilles is getting 39mpg he’s not driving it properly. wink
I think petrol will also take an equal hit on residuals over the next few years. There is no reason to think they would not.
Not until electric is actually viable for most people which it isn’t yet.

bad company

18,438 posts

265 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Pica-Pica said:
bad company said:
I wouldn’t buy a diesel nowadays, nothing against them but I’d worry about the residual.

I’m getting 32 - 35 mpg from my 340. If Joe Achilles is getting 39mpg he’s not driving it properly. wink
I think petrol will also take an equal hit on residuals over the next few years. There is no reason to think they would not.
Not until electric is actually viable for most people which it isn’t yet.
That’s my view. Before I ordered my 340 I test drove a Jaguar iPace which I liked very much. The Jaguar would have been great for most of my journeys but we’ve done tours of Germany and The Lake District & Scotland where the range would have been a big problem.

J_Mitch84

39 posts

75 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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gravy13 said:
Appreciate this is a mundane question but what real world MPG are people getting? Looking at changing my M140i but do a reasonable mileage with work - trying to avoid a 330d!
Mine only has 500 miles on it so far so I expect it will loosen up a bit over time. But so far I'm seeing 30-35mpg on my commute, which is 30 mins of mixed country A road / dual carriageway / city driving.

I drove from Kent to Norfolk yesterday, 3 hours of mostly motorway driving at 80ish, and it showed as 39mpg.

I haven't had it in sport or sport+ much yet so I imagine these figures will drop quite a bit when I'm having some fun. But for a brand new 3.0 petrol, I think it's pretty good. Certainly an improvement on my previous S4.

BlueEyedBoy

1,915 posts

195 months

Monday 12th October 2020
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J_Mitch84 said:
Mine only has 500 miles on it so far so I expect it will loosen up a bit over time. But so far I'm seeing 30-35mpg on my commute, which is 30 mins of mixed country A road / dual carriageway / city driving.

I drove from Kent to Norfolk yesterday, 3 hours of mostly motorway driving at 80ish, and it showed as 39mpg.

I haven't had it in sport or sport+ much yet so I imagine these figures will drop quite a bit when I'm having some fun. But for a brand new 3.0 petrol, I think it's pretty good. Certainly an improvement on my previous S4.
Expert to half that in sport mode, I used to average 38 mpg driving like a Saint in one direction of a journey, on return leg the overall average dropped to 26..implying teens when pressing on.



Edited by BlueEyedBoy on Tuesday 13th October 09:40

maccybee

32 posts

142 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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23-25mpg at the moment but only doing short trips, also only have ~800 miles on it so far.

JNW1

7,696 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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bad company said:
p1stonhead said:
Pica-Pica said:
bad company said:
I wouldn’t buy a diesel nowadays, nothing against them but I’d worry about the residual.
I think petrol will also take an equal hit on residuals over the next few years. There is no reason to think they would not.
Not until electric is actually viable for most people which it isn’t yet.
That’s my view. Before I ordered my 340 I test drove a Jaguar iPace which I liked very much. The Jaguar would have been great for most of my journeys but we’ve done tours of Germany and The Lake District & Scotland where the range would have been a big problem.
I can see electric isn't viable for people who don't have access to a recharging facility overnight but for those who do I'd have thought the range of most electric cars is adequate for the journeys many of them make? Obviously there's a significant number of drivers who do long distances on a regular basis and I can see in that scenario finding a charging point - together with the time it takes to recharge once you have - makes electric a bit impractical; however, I suspect a lot of drivers don't do more than 100 miles a day and for those people an EV should be fine if you can recharge it overnight.

And in actual fact, if journeys are short even a plug-in hybrid might be able to do most of the mileage on electric power; I believe cars like the X5 45e can do over 40 miles on only electric which should be more than enough to cover the average school run! smile

JackReacher

2,118 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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JNW1 said:
bad company said:
p1stonhead said:
Pica-Pica said:
bad company said:
I wouldn’t buy a diesel nowadays, nothing against them but I’d worry about the residual.
I think petrol will also take an equal hit on residuals over the next few years. There is no reason to think they would not.
Not until electric is actually viable for most people which it isn’t yet.
That’s my view. Before I ordered my 340 I test drove a Jaguar iPace which I liked very much. The Jaguar would have been great for most of my journeys but we’ve done tours of Germany and The Lake District & Scotland where the range would have been a big problem.
I can see electric isn't viable for people who don't have access to a recharging facility overnight but for those who do I'd have thought the range of most electric cars is adequate for the journeys many of them make? Obviously there's a significant number of drivers who do long distances on a regular basis and I can see in that scenario finding a charging point - together with the time it takes to recharge once you have - makes electric a bit impractical; however, I suspect a lot of drivers don't do more than 100 miles a day and for those people an EV should be fine if you can recharge it overnight.

And in actual fact, if journeys are short even a plug-in hybrid might be able to do most of the mileage on electric power; I believe cars like the X5 45e can do over 40 miles on only electric which should be more than enough to cover the average school run! smile
I've ordered the m340i touring to complement our current i3s. Electric cars are excellent for journeys within their range, especially commuting and local journeys. The m340i will be the family car and much better suited for holidays and longer journeys than an electric car. Longer journeys in the i3 outside of it's range are a bit of a pain. Sure, Tesla have a great network, but still compromised for long trips due to the amount of charging needed and planning stops around it. I'm also not ready to go full electric in the household yet, I like the sound of a good petrol engine too much!



JackReacher

2,118 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Not sure about these ACS modifications. Looks a bit too aftermarket for me, especially the front and wheels, although the rear looks ok. £4k for a tuning box and £3.3k for an exhaust back box both seem a bit steep!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkdBMud00_k

smashy

3,030 posts

157 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Until electric can somehow self generate its not viable for a large part of tbe driving population.Most of London in their flats and terraces for a start

bad company

18,438 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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smashy said:
Until electric can somehow self generate its not viable for a large part of tbe driving population.Most of London in their flats and terraces for a start
We’re getting off topic here but I read that charging points could be added to lampposts. Could be terminal for passing dogs. laugh