Did BMW make any 8 Series with a manual box?

[burriana]

By the look of it so far Derin it will be worthy of a place in your garage by the time it is finished!

[derin100]

My mouth is already watering!

Post pics asap please!

Edited by derin100 on Thursday 20th September 23:53

[dan101smith]

derin100 said:

8 Series in right hand drive AND Manual gearbox format:

830i with 3.0L V8 = 0

840Ci with 4.0L V8 = 54

840Ci with 4.4L V8 = 3

850i with 5.0L V12 = 102 (of which 4 were South Africa)

850Ci with 5.4L V12 = 0

850CSi with 5.6L V12 = 160

Which market was the 830i produced for?

ETA - Found this on e31.net:

BMW 830i
04/1992 - 12/1992, prototype, number: 18

The 830i was conceived as the entry model of the 8 series. 18 prototypes have been built and all of them were destroyed again. None of the 830s has ever been ready for production let alone for sale. BMW will not disclose the type of engine used in those prototypes.

Edited by dan101smith on Friday 21st September 12:29

[MitchT]

I think I might struggle a bit for an 840Ci Sport with a manual box then! Probably my heart ruling my head too much here anyway - an 8 is a tad too large for the type of roads I best like driving on - but I just think they're such lovely cars! So top of the list at the moment remains the Elise and the E36 M3 with, not far behind, the Boxster and the Chimaera. Don't ask me to explain how I managed to get such chalk and cheese cars so close together at the top of my next purchase list - I'm not sure I understand it myself!!!

[burriana]

what type of roads would those be then Mitch?

My main driving for the weekend car is fast B roads around the Wolds and NY Moors. A few twisties and a lot of fast undulating curves.

I am coming from a Ferrari 348 Spider, a sublime 911 Carrera and a 500 Griffith.

My 850 is being set up with chipped engine, chipped gearbox, de-catted custom exhaust, much stiffer and lower than the original M-Sport, Eibach springs from the States along with matching Bilstein race dampers ... plus renewed brakes, braided hoses and racing fluid, topped off with negative camber plates and CSi anti-roll bars. oh, and an M5 diff

All with the intention of hammering round those roads just as fast, if not faster than previous jallopies

[randlemarcus]

burriana said:

All with the intention of hammering round those roads just as fast, if not faster than previous jallopies

Only with a big ceegar, from the back seat while Carruthers drives one home

[BadRedWedge]

Very interesting thread, thinking about an 8?0 to replace my 450SE so what do I get ? an 840 ? an 850? a 4L 4.4L 5L etc etc. now I know this is a subjective question, and I dont want to start WW3 but which one is best,and what should I look out for ?? We want to use the car as a weekend / GT.

Thanks for any help

[Apache]

LPG equipped manual here

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/219948.htm



perfect, if I had the cash lying around I'd bite his hand off

Edited by Apache on Sunday 23 September 09:11

[MitchT]

burriana said:

what type of roads would those be then Mitch?

Relatively narrow B roads where you have to breathe-in if someone comes the other way, but the bonus is that the local dibble don't seem to know they are there. Added to this the turns are so tight and frequent it's nigh-on impossible to break the speed limit anyway. Perfect Elise territory but would also be fun in an E36 M3, if the experience I've had in my E36 318is is anything to go by.

[Talkwrench]

randlemarcus said:

burriana said:

All with the intention of hammering round those roads just as fast, if not faster than previous jallopies

Only with a big ceegar, from the back seat while Carruthers drives one home

From the back seat??
Are you having your legs removed, Al?

[derin100]

I was going to say the same!

From the back seat?!

Either Al is a bilateral lower limb amputee or under 7 years old!

[burriana]

These people seem to think that the 850 is some sort of leisurely dowager ... Mr Randle will get a shock on the next Dawn Run he cares to grace us with his presence on

[randlemarcus]

burriana said:

These people seem to think that the 850 is some sort of leisurely dowager ... Mr Randle will get a shock on the next Dawn Run he cares to grace us with his presence on

Fairy nuff, o plutocratic one. Will have to arrange matters so that I'm up this end of the country on a Dawn Run weekend. When's the next one?

Probably on two wheels, mind, so the usual not raining, not slippery caveats apply.. Oooh, and as a side note, does anyone know the nice man with a shiny silver M6, plate ends with SIMON or similar? He seems to have it powered by Scalded Cats. Good fella!

[derin100]

Al,
you have mail.

[burriana]

Thanks Derin, but the silver grey interior that mine has is absolutely mint, well, now Michael has finished with it it is

If mine had black interior then I would certainly have gone for it

[Job38]

Look, you can't keep us in suspenders like that, what was it?

[derin100]

This:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/E31-Alpina-B12-complete-Inte...

[burriana]

I forwarded it on to Michael in case he was interested but his CSi has the "individual" spec interior and his Ci has the Buffalo hide so don't hink he would be interested ... worth seeing what it goes to though.

[BadRedWedge]

BadRedWedge said:

Very interesting thread, thinking about an 8?0 to replace my 450SE so what do I get ? an 840 ? an 850? a 4L 4.4L 5L etc etc. now I know this is a subjective question, and I dont want to start WW3 but which one is best,and what should I look out for ?? We want to use the car as a weekend / GT.

Thanks for any help

[burriana]

oops sorry, got waylaid!

840 for age.
850 for performance.

You will get a younger 840 for your money. Some people will tell you that the 840 is better performance, but they are not, or else why would BMW have bothered with the mighty V12? The 850 has masses of torque, all of it flooding in at about 1000 rpm and holding right through to 6000. The 840 V8 needs revving to get it's best.

Presuming that you cannot find a rare manual, the 840 has the steptronic shift versus the 850 4-speed auto. However this can be chipped to make very quick/snappy as mine is being done.

Choose a 4.4 Ci Sport over a 4.0 if you go for the V8. Most Nikasil problems will have been sorted on the 4.0 but the 4.4 never had them in the first place.

The V12 will be more thirsty than the V8, at a rough guess 18mpg av versus 24mpg.

There are a lot more 840s around to choose from, but that gives the 850 rarity value.

Either car will be great and one hell of a lot of car for the money, but buy on CONDITION. These cars have a huge amount of electronics in them and they need to have been looked after.

That any help?

Edited by burriana on Monday 24th September 08:22