x5 3.0SD PURCHASE

x5 3.0SD PURCHASE

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mpgrant5

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2 posts

195 months

Saturday 5th April 2008
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I have a a o7 x5 3.0d i am looking to part x for 3.0sd msport when do you think if at all will there be a few on the bmw auc site. I have seen a few demos on there

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th April 2008
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Theres one on there,

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_details/0,,1260...

but it seems to be more expensive than if you went to www.broadspeed.com to get a discount - presumably due to long lead times on the SD

They will be in high demand, therefore demo prices will be close to retail. Maybe close enough to warrant using the likes of broadspeed to put together a discounted deal on a new one instead? They are part of the Inchcape group, so they will simply put you in touch with the UK BMW dealer in their group who will supply the car. Usual trade in and finance facilities are then available.

I guess it depends on how you finance your cars too as to how the figures stack up.

Similarly, I've a late 07 3.0D SE with dynamic pack and 20's. And i've been looking at the M Sport model. I cant really see a big pile of difference between the M Sport interior and mine, exterior wise the body kit has been painted body colour, and some different but not necessarily nicer rims.



Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 6th April 11:20


Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 6th April 11:27

Donut

4,521 posts

252 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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pgilc1 said:
Theres one on there,

http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_details/0,,1260...

but it seems to be more expensive than if you went to www.broadspeed.com to get a discount - presumably due to long lead times on the SD

They will be in high demand, therefore demo prices will be close to retail. Maybe close enough to warrant using the likes of broadspeed to put together a discounted deal on a new one instead? They are part of the Inchcape group, so they will simply put you in touch with the UK BMW dealer in their group who will supply the car. Usual trade in and finance facilities are then available.

I guess it depends on how you finance your cars too as to how the figures stack up.

Similarly, I've a late 07 3.0D SE with dynamic pack and 20's. And i've been looking at the M Sport model. I cant really see a big pile of difference between the M Sport interior and mine, exterior wise the body kit has been painted body colour, and some different but not necessarily nicer rims.



Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 6th April 11:20


Edited by pgilc1 on Sunday 6th April 11:27
You'll never get one from broadspeed with a crazy discount, demo's are selling at list so why would you sell a new one for a discount? unlesss your dealer is a muppet.

20's are a must but you can't yet get running boards on the M Sport which does put some people off, personally I prefer the look of a SE Dynamic pack X5 with a dealer bodykit yes

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Monday 7th April 2008
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Donut said:
You'll never get one from broadspeed with a crazy discount, demo's are selling at list so why would you sell a new one for a discount? unlesss your dealer is a muppet.

20's are a must but you can't yet get running boards on the M Sport which does put some people off, personally I prefer the look of a SE Dynamic pack X5 with a dealer bodykit yes
Well its there in black and white - Broadspeed are offering £2500 off the standard 3.0sd M Sport, plus a fair bit off all the options too. If you can afford to wait, i'd rather do that that pay list for an ex demo.


Donut

4,521 posts

252 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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pgilc1 said:
Donut said:
You'll never get one from broadspeed with a crazy discount, demo's are selling at list so why would you sell a new one for a discount? unlesss your dealer is a muppet.

20's are a must but you can't yet get running boards on the M Sport which does put some people off, personally I prefer the look of a SE Dynamic pack X5 with a dealer bodykit yes
Well its there in black and white - Broadspeed are offering £2500 off the standard 3.0sd M Sport, plus a fair bit off all the options too. If you can afford to wait, i'd rather do that that pay list for an ex demo.
I don't doubt its on the web, just try and process it to an actual order and that discount will disapear.......

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Donut said:
pgilc1 said:
Donut said:
You'll never get one from broadspeed with a crazy discount, demo's are selling at list so why would you sell a new one for a discount? unlesss your dealer is a muppet.

20's are a must but you can't yet get running boards on the M Sport which does put some people off, personally I prefer the look of a SE Dynamic pack X5 with a dealer bodykit yes
Well its there in black and white - Broadspeed are offering £2500 off the standard 3.0sd M Sport, plus a fair bit off all the options too. If you can afford to wait, i'd rather do that that pay list for an ex demo.
I don't doubt its on the web, just try and process it to an actual order and that discount will disapear.......
I would imagine trading standards would have something to say about that and i'd very much doubt an organisation the size of Broadspeed / Inchcape would risk the bad publicity.


Donut

4,521 posts

252 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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pgilc1 said:
Donut said:
pgilc1 said:
Donut said:
You'll never get one from broadspeed with a crazy discount, demo's are selling at list so why would you sell a new one for a discount? unlesss your dealer is a muppet.

20's are a must but you can't yet get running boards on the M Sport which does put some people off, personally I prefer the look of a SE Dynamic pack X5 with a dealer bodykit yes
Well its there in black and white - Broadspeed are offering £2500 off the standard 3.0sd M Sport, plus a fair bit off all the options too. If you can afford to wait, i'd rather do that that pay list for an ex demo.
I don't doubt its on the web, just try and process it to an actual order and that discount will disapear.......
I would imagine trading standards would have something to say about that and i'd very much doubt an organisation the size of Broadspeed / Inchcape would risk the bad publicity.
Why? Its not a contract.

Which is why they ask you to contact them for confirmation....

You could get 12% off Alpina product last year through certain websites that don't even have a franchise to sell them, its because the calculations are set by a standard computer programme, input car and options and said discount applies regardless.

Lets say you have a business offering three product lines.

Product one - Ample supply and customers.

Product two - Ample supply but limited customers.

Product Three - Very limited supply but plenty of interested customers.

Would you offer the same discount level on all three products?

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Donut said:
pgilc1 said:
Donut said:
pgilc1 said:
Donut said:
You'll never get one from broadspeed with a crazy discount, demo's are selling at list so why would you sell a new one for a discount? unlesss your dealer is a muppet.

20's are a must but you can't yet get running boards on the M Sport which does put some people off, personally I prefer the look of a SE Dynamic pack X5 with a dealer bodykit yes
Well its there in black and white - Broadspeed are offering £2500 off the standard 3.0sd M Sport, plus a fair bit off all the options too. If you can afford to wait, i'd rather do that that pay list for an ex demo.
I don't doubt its on the web, just try and process it to an actual order and that discount will disapear.......
I would imagine trading standards would have something to say about that and i'd very much doubt an organisation the size of Broadspeed / Inchcape would risk the bad publicity.
Why? Its not a contract.

Which is why they ask you to contact them for confirmation....

You could get 12% off Alpina product last year through certain websites that don't even have a franchise to sell them, its because the calculations are set by a standard computer programme, input car and options and said discount applies regardless.

Lets say you have a business offering three product lines.

Product one - Ample supply and customers.

Product two - Ample supply but limited customers.

Product Three - Very limited supply but plenty of interested customers.

Would you offer the same discount level on all three products?
Is it not odd that the computer generated price noted that it takes longer to get an SD M Sport than say, an SE, yet according to you, it isnt capable of taking into account demand for a particular model and allowing a price adjustment accordingly?

Broadspeed use a fleet sales business model, not the same as a dealership sales model. If a dealership doesnt want to discount a popular car, they dont have to, knowing that someone else will pay the retail price.

If a fleet sales outlet wants to reach targets, they will discount to do so.

If you were tasked with selling say 1000 BMWs by the end of the month and were bonused on that, would you say of one specific model 'Wohah! we can get a bit more for these!' or would you be selling with a view to the bigger picture?

Donut

4,521 posts

252 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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But SD's are mainly built to order due to lead times so very rarely get caught up in that senario unless you have a cancelled order which you *should* be able to place straight away anyhow......

bored now..

as you where biggrin

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Donut said:
But SD's are mainly built to order due to lead times so very rarely get caught up in that senario unless you have a cancelled order which you *should* be able to place straight away anyhow......

bored now..

as you where biggrin
LOL. Pretty much all x5s would be built to order, though there would be some in the system or cancelled orders. All broadspeeds prices take into account you're going to have to wait for it to be built for you. Their prices arent based on cars they have right now. Just an example, last Jan when i ordered my 535d, the 3 litre twin turbo engine was in very short supply and necessitated a lead time of four months to get one ( i suspect this is still the problem given the engines popularity across so many models) but i was still able to get around £4000 off a car that was being built to order.

I'm not saying that the sd m sport isnt in demand, just that discounts are being controlled by the dealers themselves, nothing else. I got £4500 off my x5 in november (though it was a cancelled order), but giving list price on a £50K bmw seems crazy to me, given the 50% depreciation its likely to suffer in the first three years, irrespective of how 'in demand' the dealers are telling us it is right now, it will still drop like snow going off a ditch.

But i guess we should agree to differ...

Edited by pgilc1 on Tuesday 8th April 18:51

[TW]Fox

13,241 posts

247 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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mpgrant5 said:
I have a a o7 x5 3.0d i am looking to part x for 3.0sd msport
Why? Your car is a whole year old, do you have money burning a hole in your bank account or something? Whats the new one going to do for you bar have an 08 plate to make the neighbours go 'woooo'?

Dont think I will understand people who change year old cars for another one more or less exactly the same or in this case worse, whoever thought low profile tyres and a bodykit on an offroad vehicle was a good idea..

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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[TW]Fox said:
mpgrant5 said:
I have a a o7 x5 3.0d i am looking to part x for 3.0sd msport
Why? Your car is a whole year old, do you have money burning a hole in your bank account or something? Whats the new one going to do for you bar have an 08 plate to make the neighbours go 'woooo'?

Dont think I will understand people who change year old cars for another one more or less exactly the same or in this case worse, whoever thought low profile tyres and a bodykit on an offroad vehicle was a good idea..
It would be my thinking also. Most x5 SE's have dynamic pack on them anyway, thus will have the same interior as the M Sport, and same suspension. Mine also has 20's, so all i would be benefitting from would be different alloys and a colour coded bodykit. Yes, the SD engine would be nice, but my 3.0d has a tuningbox on it so its pretty quick anyway, plus i didnt buy my x5 for drag racing.

I would say your stealer would be looking £10,000 to upgrade from an 07 3.0d SE to an 3.0sd Msport with the necessary toys on it. A lot for so little advantage.

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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For the record, i registered an interest in an x5 sd Sport with broadspeed out of curiosity RE: discounts.

They phoned me today and said that if i went ahead they would guarantee the £2500 discount stated on their website, even though its an 'in demand' SD model.


Donut

4,521 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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pgilc1 said:
For the record, i registered an interest in an x5 sd Sport with broadspeed out of curiosity RE: discounts.

They phoned me today and said that if i went ahead they would guarantee the £2500 discount stated on their website, even though its an 'in demand' SD model.
Gold star is in the post.......

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Donut said:
pgilc1 said:
For the record, i registered an interest in an x5 sd Sport with broadspeed out of curiosity RE: discounts.

They phoned me today and said that if i went ahead they would guarantee the £2500 discount stated on their website, even though its an 'in demand' SD model.
Gold star is in the post.......
No, honestly, think nothing of it. If it helps someone save £2500 or negotiate a discount with their local stealer then it was 5 mins well spent.

[TW]Fox

13,241 posts

247 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Buy a nice 535d Touring instead. It'll go faster, handle better and wont make you look like a wannabe rapstar or a property developer wink

playerone

872 posts

211 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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[TW]Fox said:
Buy a nice 535d Touring instead. It'll go faster, handle better and wont make you look like a wannabe rapstar or a property developer wink
No silly. Property guys only drive RR Sports. tongue out

pgilc1

35,853 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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[TW]Fox said:
Buy a nice 535d Touring instead. It'll go faster, handle better and wont make you look like a wannabe rapstar or a property developer wink
I said on another post that i'd changed my 535d to an x5 for lifestyle reasons, and someone replied 'why, have you married a footballer??' :-)

Personally, i looked at the 5 series touring and couldnt warm to its looks. Plus the boot isnt that big on them. The downside with the x5 is (as above) plus you lose the car dynamics, bad fuel economy (averaging 23 instead of 37) and the sheer cost of the thing to buy, which if you sat down and thought about it, all gets a bit silly. Mine has over £11,000 of extras on it - mostly stuff you'd expect as standard too. :-(

Donut

4,521 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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pgilc1 said:
Donut said:
pgilc1 said:
For the record, i registered an interest in an x5 sd Sport with broadspeed out of curiosity RE: discounts.

They phoned me today and said that if i went ahead they would guarantee the £2500 discount stated on their website, even though its an 'in demand' SD model.
Gold star is in the post.......
No, honestly, think nothing of it. If it helps someone save £2500 or negotiate a discount with their local stealer then it was 5 mins well spent.
Make that two...

Infact make it five!!

must remember to post my Mcdonalds badge to you tonight




biggrin

dazren

22,612 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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[TW]Fox said:
mpgrant5 said:
I have a a o7 x5 3.0d i am looking to part x for 3.0sd msport
Why? Your car is a whole year old, do you have money burning a hole in your bank account or something? Whats the new one going to do for you bar have an 08 plate to make the neighbours go 'woooo'?

Dont think I will understand people who change year old cars for another one more or less exactly the same or in this case worse, whoever thought low profile tyres and a bodykit on an offroad vehicle was a good idea..
New model. MORE POWERFUL ENGINE.

Drove a mates car yesterday morning at a test facility. Absolutely bonkers how this thing gets to 130mph and sneaks in below the £25 kengestion charge. Staggering.