8 series, what are they like?

8 series, what are they like?

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johnnywas

114 posts

181 months

Saturday 26th December 2009
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Here's mine,was getting a bit frosty when i took the pic's (the weather)lol

Edited by johnnywas on Saturday 26th December 18:28

johnnywas

114 posts

181 months

Saturday 26th December 2009
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Talkwrench that is so clean,very nice.

LordGrover

33,544 posts

212 months

Saturday 26th December 2009
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Will you feckers stop posting pitchers!
I going to have to go and find one soon if you don't. boxedin

E21_Ross

Original Poster:

35,080 posts

212 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Talkwrench said:
And my current stable of e31's ...

The CSi




And the Ci


OMG they are good. The interior on the 8 is something else, yes, you can tell it's dated, but i absolutely love the way that it's so driver focussed, angled towards the driver, cocooning you as it were. you don't have a desktop sized pic of either interior do you smile lovely lovely lovely garage you have!!

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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E21_Ross said:
OMG they are good. The interior on the 8 is something else, yes, you can tell it's dated, but i absolutely love the way that it's so driver focussed, angled towards the driver, cocooning you as it were. you don't have a desktop sized pic of either interior do you smile lovely lovely lovely garage you have!!
Actually that is one of the things I don't like about the 8, is it looks very driver orientated but, you are seated to far left on an angle, the seat needs to be moved about 3" to the right hand side, or the pedals move 3" to the left, as I much prefer sitting towards the right of the car, where as the 8 slouches you towards the left.


And as for the 850CSI now that is a rare car, RHD manual 850 CSI not many of them about, only about 1500 built, but the RHD manuals I believe number well below 50 IIRC, didn't really do to much digging on the 850, as the 850CSI is not an easy car to get hold of and the 850 only had 10bhp more than the 840, but was heavier front end wise.

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Pits, maybe you should do a bit more "digging" on the 850, even better...drive one, preferably a manual.smile

johnnywas

114 posts

181 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Are any you guy's on the 8er owners register 8coupe.com ? If so wat is your user names ?

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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johnnywas said:
Are any you guy's on the 8er owners register 8coupe.com ? If so wat is your user names ?
Not me.

johnnywas

114 posts

181 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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paoloh said:
johnnywas said:
Are any you guy's on the 8er owners register 8coupe.com ? If so wat is your user names ?
Not me.
you should go and register,once you register you will get a build sheet telling you about your car as it came out of the factory like wat extras and spec,,also its only for real owners as you get a few questions to prove you have an 8er ,thay are keeping records of how meany 8er's are still around and who ownes them,like where i stay in midlothian their is only 3 8er registerd

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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johnnywas said:
paoloh said:
johnnywas said:
Are any you guy's on the 8er owners register 8coupe.com ? If so wat is your user names ?
Not me.
you should go and register,once you register you will get a build sheet telling you about your car as it came out of the factory like wat extras and spec,,also its only for real owners as you get a few questions to prove you have an 8er ,thay are keeping records of how meany 8er's are still around and who ownes them,like where i stay in midlothian their is only 3 8er registerd
Typical, get nearly to the end and then they ask for VIN number and I am 300 miles away from car...biggrin

rsstman

1,918 posts

187 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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paoloh said:
I have an 850 and it is effortless motoring with endless grunt.

Regarding repairs, no, it isn't a Ford Fiesta and will cost you a fair few pennies now and again.

I've just done a top to bottom sort out of mine and have spent nearly £3000.

Now, that sounds an awful lot of cash but it did have a lot of work done:

Suspension bushes front and rear
Brakes lines
Light control unit
Re aligning headlamp
Re aligning Sun roof
Repairing cable on seat
New disc and pads
Various bits of trim
Wheel refurb
The whole car mopped
Brake light switch
wow, that is just minor works and with a bill of £3k!!! madness.

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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johnnywas said:
Are any you guy's on the 8er owners register 8coupe.com ? If so wat is your user names ?
Yep.
Name:Hallworth1...i think

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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rsstman said:
paoloh said:
I have an 850 and it is effortless motoring with endless grunt.

Regarding repairs, no, it isn't a Ford Fiesta and will cost you a fair few pennies now and again.

I've just done a top to bottom sort out of mine and have spent nearly £3000.

Now, that sounds an awful lot of cash but it did have a lot of work done:

Suspension bushes front and rear
Brakes lines
Light control unit
Re aligning headlamp
Re aligning Sun roof
Repairing cable on seat
New disc and pads
Various bits of trim
Wheel refurb
The whole car mopped
Brake light switch
wow, that is just minor works and with a bill of £3k!!! madness.
Not madness at all!...It COSTS to get cars into good condition. People forget that when they think they can buy an old car for not very much money. It still costs for bits and pieces to be sorted and it soon mounts up.

e.g Not even an 8-Series...and I haven't strived for perfection as I'm actually using this car on a daily basis...but I bought this Mercedes 190E with 67K miles on the clock for £1300...yet it now stands me £3K:

http://www.bmwclassics.co.uk/gallery/index.php?spg...

And that's only a little 190E to drive around in. With an 8-Series who wants a sh*t one? What's the point? Nothing looks sadder than to be in a sh*t 'once proud' luxury coupe? So it'll cost money to avoid that scenario.


johnnywas

114 posts

181 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Spudler said:
johnnywas said:
Are any you guy's on the 8er owners register 8coupe.com ? If so wat is your user names ?
Yep.
Name:Hallworth1...i think
looked but not their

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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Definitely worth registering on the Register (even though I've never really contributed on the forum)...also worth knowing Jud Spencer who set up and did huge amounts of work (over years!) archiving and registering can come across sometimes as a little...how shall we say...brusque sometimes? But he's a good egg really.laugh

Edited by derin100 on Sunday 27th December 18:45

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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johnnywas said:
Spudler said:
johnnywas said:
Are any you guy's on the 8er owners register 8coupe.com ? If so wat is your user names ?
Yep.
Name:Hallworth1...i think
looked but not their
biglaughYeah me too!, cant remember what name i used so i've filled it in againsilly

Talkwrench

909 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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pits said:
And as for the 850CSI now that is a rare car, RHD manual 850 CSI not many of them about, only about 1500 built, but the RHD manuals I believe number well below 50 IIRC, didn't really do to much digging on the 850, as the 850CSI is not an easy car to get hold of and the 850 only had 10bhp more than the 840, but was heavier front end wise.
Maybe only 10 or 12 bhp on paper, but the power delivery, the wave of effortless torque and the width of the power band really is something else. I drive both very frequently, and to me an 840 feels like an 850 with an engine problem. Maybe a bit harsh, but the difference really is very noticeable. As for the heavy nose - both the 840 and 850 are too soft and understeery as standard. Stiffer springs, negative camber plates and Bilstein shocks makes them feel 15 years younger and 500lbs lighter without loosing ride quality.

johnnywas

114 posts

181 months

Sunday 27th December 2009
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here you go pits

830ci which was a 3.0L their was 18 made and none came to the uk
840ci which was a 4.0L their was 4,728 made and 784 came to the uk
840ci which was a 4.4L their was 3,075 made and 1,406 came to the uk
850i/ci which was a 5L their was 20,072 made and 697 came to the uk
850ci which was a 5.4L their was 1,218 made and none came to the uk
850csi which was a 5.6L their was 1,510 made and 153 came to the uk

total 8 series made was 30,621 total uk cars was 3.040

so only 3,040 cars came to the uk so how meanys still on the road ?

Edited by johnnywas on Sunday 27th December 21:50


Edited by johnnywas on Sunday 27th December 21:54

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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johnnywas said:
here you go pits

830ci which was a 3.0L their was 18 made and none came to the uk
840ci which was a 4.0L their was 4,728 made and 784 came to the uk
840ci which was a 4.4L their was 3,075 made and 1,406 came to the uk
850i/ci which was a 5L their was 20,072 made and 697 came to the uk
850ci which was a 5.4L their was 1,218 made and none came to the uk
850csi which was a 5.6L their was 1,510 made and 153 came to the uk

total 8 series made was 30,621 total uk cars was 3.040

so only 3,040 cars came to the uk so how meanys still on the road ?

Edited by johnnywas on Sunday 27th December 21:50


Edited by johnnywas on Sunday 27th December 21:54
I did find out how many original 850CSI RHD manuals were left, and I know they number very low, most came to the UK as RHD wise only 160 were made.

As for the 850, took 9 years to find the right 8 series for us, we opted for the 840 as it was the better car all round, on top of that out of the probable hundreds that were looked at of all models, all the 850s were getting long in the tooth, high mileage which we didn't want, saying that ours has 124k which was well above the limit, but engine wise it was only 50 odd thousand miles old, and for the minimal gain you got performance wise, agreed the 840 does need that second or so to build up powah, but once it hits around that 4.5k mark it is quick enough.

Saying that if I had the cash there would be an 850CSI manual in technoviolet with a black interior sat in the garage next to the 840 as a weekend car, and the 840 as a more runabout car.


Also saying all that, the only 850 that was considered was the 850CSI, but they getting hold a decent one was proving to difficult, and when one did come up, it commanded alot of money, and then was snapped up instantly, another reason we opted for the 840, as the normal 850 just offered so little extra to the 840 smile


I will try and dig up the numbers on the 850CSI and how many are left, I have them somewhere.


And at the end of the day it doesn't matter what 8 you own, the important thing is, that we know another is safe as these cars are a future classic, and will be a proper classic soon, and I can only see them appreciating in value, as they are now.


johnnywas

114 posts

181 months

Monday 28th December 2009
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pits said:
johnnywas said:
here you go pits

830ci which was a 3.0L their was 18 made and none came to the uk
840ci which was a 4.0L their was 4,728 made and 784 came to the uk
840ci which was a 4.4L their was 3,075 made and 1,406 came to the uk
850i/ci which was a 5L their was 20,072 made and 697 came to the uk
850ci which was a 5.4L their was 1,218 made and none came to the uk
850csi which was a 5.6L their was 1,510 made and 153 came to the uk

total 8 series made was 30,621 total uk cars was 3.040

so only 3,040 cars came to the uk so how meanys still on the road ?

Edited by johnnywas on Sunday 27th December 21:50


Edited by johnnywas on Sunday 27th December 21:54
I did find out how many original 850CSI RHD manuals were left, and I know they number very low, most came to the UK as RHD wise only 160 were made.

As for the 850, took 9 years to find the right 8 series for us, we opted for the 840 as it was the better car all round, on top of that out of the probable hundreds that were looked at of all models, all the 850s were getting long in the tooth, high mileage which we didn't want, saying that ours has 124k which was well above the limit, but engine wise it was only 50 odd thousand miles old, and for the minimal gain you got performance wise, agreed the 840 does need that second or so to build up powah, but once it hits around that 4.5k mark it is quick enough.

Saying that if I had the cash there would be an 850CSI manual in technoviolet with a black interior sat in the garage next to the 840 as a weekend car, and the 840 as a more runabout car.


Also saying all that, the only 850 that was considered was the 850CSI, but they getting hold a decent one was proving to difficult, and when one did come up, it commanded alot of money, and then was snapped up instantly, another reason we opted for the 840, as the normal 850 just offered so little extra to the 840 smile


I will try and dig up the numbers on the 850CSI and how many are left, I have them somewhere.


And at the end of the day it doesn't matter what 8 you own, the important thing is, that we know another is safe as these cars are a future classic, and will be a proper classic soon, and I can only see them appreciating in value, as they are now.
there is 1 850csi for sale on pistonheads now